emilynghiem
Constitutionalist / Universalist
Oh. You mean what you "earned" in the absence of any other single human on the planet? You're a joke. Next, moron, what is it you don't get. If medical coverage and college were free, "everybody" would benifit. In the documentary "Sicko," the people they talked to, the "working" ones, were horrified at the thought of doing without their free medical coverage. And you are horrified at the thought of it? How interesting. Also, I have something to suggest to you too. But I don't feel like getting banned.
Dear krypto OK so if the benefits are going to pay off,
are you willing to fund this yourself if you believe it so much?
I give donations to Doctors without Borders because their
cost effectiveness ensures the most people will benefit.
There's nothing wrong with CHOOSING to give charity.
But krypto if you are going to MANDATE charity,
who has the right to DICTATE WHICH CHARITIES
to give to? Why isn't this left to people to decide
to give to Harvard medical school to expand public health internships
and outreach. Or give to UTMB in Galveston.
If this is mandated through govt isn't that dangerous?
What if rightwing could get in control and MANDATE
that our taxes go to PROLIFE groups and anyone
who wants to give to PROCHOICE options, too bad,
you still get FINED and your MONEY goes to the PROLIFE programs anyway.
krypto if you are going to have FEDERAL GOVT
dictate which health care groups to fund, who gets
to decide the rules and regulations.
I'm sorry you don't get this.
Someone you assume that once this power get
into the hands of govt then "magically the govt
will direct the money as you want in your mind"
Good luck with that krypto from experience
the ONLY way I know to ensure the money goes
where YOU think it should go is for YOU to direct
the money there YOURSELF. This is what
conservatives means by running social programs
through the PRIVATE sector where YOU control
the money and where it goes because it's your money you are responsible for.
krypto I will believe you when you try to set up a program
like Doctors without Borders, Pace Universal or AmeriCares.
Go ahead, see how much work it takes to manage health
care resources and services and get them from point A to point B.
You'll quickly find you don't want govt involved and interfering
with the operations it takes to run such a program effectively.
Remember krypto when you run a program as a private
individual or organization, you can make all the decisions yourself.
When you RUN THINGS THROUGH FEDERAL GOVT
that means you have to vote and pass things that represent
ALL OTHER PEOPLE AND STATES represented by GOVT.
So all the people you are arguing with HERE
they would have to AGREE where and how to fund
which policy or program to make it work and represent everyone.
If you want to run things YOUR way, then you do it privately.
You fund and manage it yourself, through your own organization,
and then you retain full freedom to decide how to do it.
I think you and other liberals have gotten in the bad habit of
expecting to run things through govt and think it will come out
how YOU want it. But YOU aren't the entire nation paying it
and owed equal representation for anytihng passed and enforced by govt.
You seem to think that "once the money is in the hands of govt
you have the right to spend it any way you see fit"
WHY do you think you have the right to bypass the consent
of other taxpayers who are paying in also?
WHY do you think your idea is so much better you can
impose and dictate on everyone else?
I'd really like to know why and where you get this idea.
If any other group took public tax dollars and voted to give it
some charity you didn't agree to fund, you'd yell too.
Why can't you see that people deserve equal freedom
to make that choice where to fund social programs that not everyone agrees on?
Where's the inclusion of diversity?
Where does this come from that you think you can dictate for the rest of the nation?
Blah blah blah. I'm not talking about charity. I'm talking about society. And your talk of me personally funding free health care, or paying students to go to college, is ludicrous. Also, your argument about pro-life is pretty far off the mark. No matter how those pro-life morons slice it, it is always going to be the better argument that it is the woman's body so it should be her choice. Another thing is that, like it or not, other countries make universal health care work. If Americans can't, it doesn't mean that there is something wrong with universal health care. It means that there is something wrong with America. Which there is. Many things.
If it's the woman's choices because it's her body, why are the rest of us forced to support what SHE chooses to have when she can't afford the choice SHE made? If she makes the choice, shouldn't she be the one to pay for that choice whatever the choice may be?
Conservative65 Maybe if we started holding the MEN accountable
for the costs they helped to create, we'd get an answer to your questions!
There is a legal system in place to address your concern. What else would you like?
Dear JBond the current legal system only works
after a crime is committed and doesn't guarantee equal legal resources or defense to all people
It isn't designed to address preventing abuses in advance from becoming civil or criminal violations.
That's why we don't have equal due process and protections in this county.
JBond for cases of rape and murder, only PREVENTING them from happening in the first
place would equally protect all citizens. Once your rights are violated you can't get them back;
it takes work to restore justice so you are already unequal to someone who didn't suffer violation.
That isn't equal justice.
We need to support systems of restorative justice that correct wrongs in ways
that DETER and PREVENT future and repeat occurrences.
Our legal system doesn't do this but obstructs it by rewarding taking the Fifth Amendment
and not holding people accountable for the costs and consequences of their actions.
It is too easily abused to deny due process and equal justice as well as other Constitutional rights.