He died after a cop kneeled on his neck for 14 minutes. Now, his family can finally sue.

NewsVine_Mariyam

Platinum Member
Mar 3, 2018
9,299
6,147
1,030
The Beautiful Pacific Northwest
A lawsuit is fine, but these cops should be prosecuted. If they can't be prosecuted in state court then they should be prosecuted under one of the federal civil rights statutes such as the ones used to convict the LAPD cops who beat Rodney King.

It's always easier when it's already been done apparently, so let the flood gates open.

Civil rights attorneys say that the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals – which hears appeals from federal courts in Texas, Mississippi and Louisiana – is where righteous police misconduct cases go to die.​

But earlier this month, the Fifth Circuit issued a decision in a case, Timpa v. Dillard, that offers renewed hope that people whose constitutional rights have been violated can get justice in court.​

Tony Timpa called the Dallas police in August 2016 to ask for help. The 32-year-old, white, college-educated executive was off the medication he usually took for anxiety and schizophrenia, as he told the police dispatcher.​

But when five Dallas police officers arrived on the side of the road where Timpa was, they did not give him the help he needed. Instead, they handcuffed him behind his back, zip-tied his feet, and Officer Dustin Dillard put his knee and bodyweight on Timpa’s back.​

The officers’ body cameras recorded Timpa crying for help, pleading with them, saying “you’re gonna kill me!” over and over again. After nine minutes under Officer Dillard’s knee, Timpa stopped moving.​

After 11 minutes, Timpa went limp, then silent. The officers joked and laughed that Timpa had fallen asleep. All of this was caught on the officers' body cameras. They had been trained that keeping someone in a prone position under an officer’s bodyweight was dangerous.​


But Dillard kneeled on Timpa for more than 14 minutes. When an ambulance arrived, Dillard can be heard in the body camera video saying, “I hope I didn’t kill him.” More laughter.​

Once Timpa was in the ambulance, paramedics announced that he wasn’t breathing and performed CPR. He was pronounced dead at the scene.​

Timpa’s family sued. In July 2020, just five weeks after George Floyd was murdered under the knee of Derek Chauvin, a judge in Texas granted qualified immunity to the officers who killed Timpa in almost exactly the same way.​

Judge gave officers qualified immunity​


Qualified immunity is a defense to civil liability for police officers and other government officials, even if they have violated the Constitution, if they have not violated “clearly established” law. The Supreme Court’s decisions have repeatedly made clear that the law is not clearly established unless there is a prior court decision with nearly identical facts.​

The judge hearing Timpa v. Dillard assumed that the officers violated the Constitution, but granted them qualified immunity from a civil lawsuit because there was no prior court case holding that it was unconstitutional to hold an unarmed person in a prone position for more than 14 minutes.​

A court found in a previous case that officers used excessive force when they hogtied a person – restraining his hands and feet behind his back – and placed him face down, killing him. But the judge concluded that the prior case did not “clearly establish” that what the officers did to Timpa was unconstitutional.​

Although the officers handcuffed Timpa's wrists, zip-tied his ankles and placed him face down in a prone position, the officers did not attach ankle and wrist restraints. So, he was not hogtied. Based on that minor factual distinction, the judge concluded the law was not clearly established and dismissed the lawsuit.​

On Dec. 15, the Fifth Circuit reversed the trial court’s decision making clear that officers violated the Fourth Amendment and are not entitled to qualified immunity when they use force on someone who is “restrained and subdued.”​

The appeals court also said that Timpa's family did not need to find a prior court decision where force was used under the same circumstances to get past qualified immunity.​

Court rules family can file lawsuit​


Perhaps the judges were compelled by a recent Supreme Court decision that made clear that keeping someone in a prone position can violate the Constitution, or the similarities to Floyd’s case.​

Perhaps the judges were persuaded by wide-ranging criticisms of qualified immunity doctrine, or to the Supreme Court’s recent decision in Taylor v. Riojas that determined prior similar cases were unnecessary when a constitutional violation is obvious.​

Whatever the reason, the Timpa case is an important decision for people whose rights have been violated in Texas, Mississippi and Louisiana.​

This decision is the Timpas only hope for justice. Unlike Chauvin, who was prosecuted, convicted and sent to prison for more than 22 years, the officers who killed Timpa did not face criminal penalties. A grand jury indicted three of the officers, but the Dallas district attorney dropped the charges. The Dallas Police Department gave a written reprimand to the officers and sent them back to work.​

The Timpas have not won their lawsuit – they only won the right to go to trial. And juries are notoriously hostile to plaintiffs in civil rights cases. But the Fifth Circuit’s decision is a step in the right direction – for the Timpas and for the Constitution.​

Joanna Schwartz is a professor at the UCLA School of Law.

This column is part of a series by the USA TODAY Opinion team examining the issue of qualified immunity. The project is made possible in part by a grant from Stand Together. Stand Together does not provide editorial input.

You can read diverse opinions from our Board of Contributors and other writers on the Opinion front page, on Twitter @usatodayopinion and in our daily Opinion newsletter. To respond to a column, submit a comment to [email protected].

 
I don't know this story and probably for good reason. Was Timpa white? Yeah.>>TImpa is white. and Dallas is run by democrats.



Democrat prosecutors will find a way to give this lifetime criminal's family, Floyd's money and martyrdom....he's already got the martyrdom. I think they've already been awarded money which i predict will be gone through in two years. I will never submit to the lie of George Floyd and i'll make sure my children and their friends know the truth.
 
Last edited:
Fake threat title
The coroners report stated the drugs that caused death

Pretty sure that law enforcement needs to modify their procedures to take into account possible drug overdoses and other chronic medical conditions. Even a 20 something on overdose can die in prolonged physical restraint. We have ENOUGH 18 to 40 yr old overdose deaths right now in this country.

Killing people on the spot without regard to physical condition is not American justice of any kind. Get them tied up and get the heck off their backs and neck. Cops need to control the adrenaline and GET CUSTODY and relax. Everyone should be comfortable until the EMT and paddy wagon arrives.
 
A lawsuit is fine, but these cops should be prosecuted. If they can't be prosecuted in state court then they should be prosecuted under one of the federal civil rights statutes such as the ones used to convict the LAPD cops who beat Rodney King.

It's always easier when it's already been done apparently, so let the flood gates open.

Civil rights attorneys say that the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals – which hears appeals from federal courts in Texas, Mississippi and Louisiana – is where righteous police misconduct cases go to die.​

But earlier this month, the Fifth Circuit issued a decision in a case, Timpa v. Dillard, that offers renewed hope that people whose constitutional rights have been violated can get justice in court.​

Tony Timpa called the Dallas police in August 2016 to ask for help. The 32-year-old, white, college-educated executive was off the medication he usually took for anxiety and schizophrenia, as he told the police dispatcher.​

But when five Dallas police officers arrived on the side of the road where Timpa was, they did not give him the help he needed. Instead, they handcuffed him behind his back, zip-tied his feet, and Officer Dustin Dillard put his knee and bodyweight on Timpa’s back.​

The officers’ body cameras recorded Timpa crying for help, pleading with them, saying “you’re gonna kill me!” over and over again. After nine minutes under Officer Dillard’s knee, Timpa stopped moving.​

After 11 minutes, Timpa went limp, then silent. The officers joked and laughed that Timpa had fallen asleep. All of this was caught on the officers' body cameras. They had been trained that keeping someone in a prone position under an officer’s bodyweight was dangerous.​


But Dillard kneeled on Timpa for more than 14 minutes. When an ambulance arrived, Dillard can be heard in the body camera video saying, “I hope I didn’t kill him.” More laughter.​

Once Timpa was in the ambulance, paramedics announced that he wasn’t breathing and performed CPR. He was pronounced dead at the scene.​

Timpa’s family sued. In July 2020, just five weeks after George Floyd was murdered under the knee of Derek Chauvin, a judge in Texas granted qualified immunity to the officers who killed Timpa in almost exactly the same way.​

Judge gave officers qualified immunity​


Qualified immunity is a defense to civil liability for police officers and other government officials, even if they have violated the Constitution, if they have not violated “clearly established” law. The Supreme Court’s decisions have repeatedly made clear that the law is not clearly established unless there is a prior court decision with nearly identical facts.​

The judge hearing Timpa v. Dillard assumed that the officers violated the Constitution, but granted them qualified immunity from a civil lawsuit because there was no prior court case holding that it was unconstitutional to hold an unarmed person in a prone position for more than 14 minutes.​

A court found in a previous case that officers used excessive force when they hogtied a person – restraining his hands and feet behind his back – and placed him face down, killing him. But the judge concluded that the prior case did not “clearly establish” that what the officers did to Timpa was unconstitutional.​

Although the officers handcuffed Timpa's wrists, zip-tied his ankles and placed him face down in a prone position, the officers did not attach ankle and wrist restraints. So, he was not hogtied. Based on that minor factual distinction, the judge concluded the law was not clearly established and dismissed the lawsuit.​

On Dec. 15, the Fifth Circuit reversed the trial court’s decision making clear that officers violated the Fourth Amendment and are not entitled to qualified immunity when they use force on someone who is “restrained and subdued.”​

The appeals court also said that Timpa's family did not need to find a prior court decision where force was used under the same circumstances to get past qualified immunity.​

Court rules family can file lawsuit​


Perhaps the judges were compelled by a recent Supreme Court decision that made clear that keeping someone in a prone position can violate the Constitution, or the similarities to Floyd’s case.​

Perhaps the judges were persuaded by wide-ranging criticisms of qualified immunity doctrine, or to the Supreme Court’s recent decision in Taylor v. Riojas that determined prior similar cases were unnecessary when a constitutional violation is obvious.​

Whatever the reason, the Timpa case is an important decision for people whose rights have been violated in Texas, Mississippi and Louisiana.​

This decision is the Timpas only hope for justice. Unlike Chauvin, who was prosecuted, convicted and sent to prison for more than 22 years, the officers who killed Timpa did not face criminal penalties. A grand jury indicted three of the officers, but the Dallas district attorney dropped the charges. The Dallas Police Department gave a written reprimand to the officers and sent them back to work.​

The Timpas have not won their lawsuit – they only won the right to go to trial. And juries are notoriously hostile to plaintiffs in civil rights cases. But the Fifth Circuit’s decision is a step in the right direction – for the Timpas and for the Constitution.​

Joanna Schwartz is a professor at the UCLA School of Law.

This column is part of a series by the USA TODAY Opinion team examining the issue of qualified immunity. The project is made possible in part by a grant from Stand Together. Stand Together does not provide editorial input.

You can read diverse opinions from our Board of Contributors and other writers on the Opinion front page, on Twitter @usatodayopinion and in our daily Opinion newsletter. To respond to a column, submit a comment to [email protected].

Perfect! Now his family has plenty of money for malt liquor and spinner rims, and the rest of us can sleep soundly knowing that one less dirtbag is on the streets.
 


Tony Timpa called the Dallas police in August 2016 to ask for help. The 32-year-old, white, college-educated executive was off the medication he usually took for anxiety and schizophrenia, as he told the police dispatcher.


where's that social worker that the left wants to send out. The guy was off his meds.>> IS THAT IT??
 
Pretty sure that law enforcement needs to modify their procedures to take into account possible drug overdoses and other chronic medical conditions. Even a 20 something on overdose can die in prolonged physical restraint. We have ENOUGH 18 to 40 yr old overdose deaths right now in this country.

Killing people on the spot without regard to physical condition is not American justice of any kind. Get them tied up and get the heck off their backs and neck. Cops need to control the adrenaline and GET CUSTODY and relax. Everyone should be comfortable until the EMT and paddy wagon arrives.
Criminals need to follow instructions . You are putting the blame on the responder rather than the initiator. This is typical liberal bullshit
 
Pretty sure that law enforcement needs to modify their procedures to take into account possible drug overdoses and other chronic medical conditions. Even a 20 something on overdose can die in prolonged physical restraint. We have ENOUGH 18 to 40 yr old overdose deaths right now in this country.

Killing people on the spot without regard to physical condition is not American justice of any kind. Get them tied up and get the heck off their backs and neck. Cops need to control the adrenaline and GET CUSTODY and relax. Everyone should be comfortable until the EMT and paddy wagon arrives.

Why don’t you leftists focus on changing the criminals behavior. If they don’t fight with the police, they wont need physical restraint.
 
Why don’t you leftists focus on changing the criminals behavior. If they don’t fight with the police, they wont need physical restraint.
Anyone who can't do their job without violating the civil rights of the people they're paid to protect and serve or killing them outside of self-defense has no business working in law enforcement, in my opinion.
 
Why don’t you leftists focus on changing the criminals behavior. If they don’t fight with the police, they wont need physical restraint.

They cannot fight back if PROPERLY SUBDUED. Get them under arrest and back the fuck off. Dont smother them to death without KNOWING their medical condition because you cant control YOURSELF and your ego and adrenaline.

Not a leftist. You wouldn't understand -- but I can out-right and out left most members when they are hypocritical and wrong because Civil Liberties are ALL THE SAME to me. And NEVER compromised because of who you vote for...
 
Criminals need to follow instructions . You are putting the blame on the responder rather than the initiator. This is typical liberal bullshit

We're playing "Simon says" here? No again. When you four cops and the perp is PRONE on the pavement -- put them INTO CUSTODY and back the fuck off til EMTs arrive to assess the perps complaints of "about to kill me".....

What part of that -- dont you understand? What THREAT was he to officers at the time they KILLED HIM?
 
They cannot fight back if PROPERLY SUBDUED. Get them under arrest and back the fuck off. Dont smother them to death without KNOWING their medical condition because you cant control YOURSELF and your ego and adrenaline.

Not a leftist. You wouldn't understand -- but I can out-right and out left most members when they are hypocritical and wrong because Civil Liberties are ALL THE SAME to me. And NEVER compromised because of who you vote for...
Please explain how to properly subdue a 300 pound male whacked out on meth that just robbed and shot someone and doesn’t want to go back to jail.
We’ll wait.
 
We're playing "Simon says" here? No again. When you four cops and the perp is PRONE on the pavement -- put them INTO CUSTODY and back the fuck off til EMTs arrive to assess the perps complaints of "about to kill me".....

What part of that -- dont you understand? What THREAT was he to officers at the time they KILLED HIM?

George Floydd was not murdered. He died of a drug overdose.
 
Please explain how to properly subdue a 300 pound male whacked out on meth that just robbed and shot someone and doesn’t want to go back to jail.
We’ll wait.

I don't understand. This guy was unarmed and didn't rob anybody. IOW, he wasn't a threat to the officers or anybody else and he was already cuffed. How about you explain how a guy that is already cuffed and disarmed can be a threat to anybody, even a 300 lb guy. If he rolls over, how hard is it to roll him back on the grass?
 

Forum List

Back
Top