'Hate Speech' Is Anything You Don't Want To Hear

[iceberg]

These people have made their opinions of this country pretty clear. You would just assume that they support true freedom of expression, the core value of this country, but they do not.

They're playing under different rules. You can't assume they give a crap about this country. They've told us many times - they intend to "fundamentally change" it.

yes, what dark times we live in when internet trolls can't spew racism, misogyny and homophobia on open airwaves.

well then quit it.

 

[JoeB131]

Do you really want to go down the road of pretending that only this president might steer business the way of companies based on criteria known only to themselves? I said I want specific examples of people dying because Trump is president who, under a different one, would not. You've not given a solid answer this far. I'm beginning to think that this is yet another in a long line of wild, emotional, exaggerated and unsupported accusations from you.

900 people have died in PR so far. Um, yeah, Trump fucked this one up. But he gave them some paper towels, so there's that.

So a Trump crony gets a 300 Million dollar deal for a non-existant company to restore electricity, and a month later, 90% of the island still doesn't have power.

You guys have made up Benghazi conspiracies over far less.

 

[JoeB131]

Why shouldn't people be able to say "Merry Christmas" without having idiots jump down their throat over it? The intentions are good, always were.

Because maybe they are Jewish
Or Muslim
Or Atheist
Or Buddhist
Or Sihk

Or maybe they are even Christians who don't like the fact that their God's birth has been turned into an occassion for crass commercialism and consumerism. (Really, only a result of the last century. In years past, nothing like this.)

 

[JoeB131]

well then quit it.

Not the one doing it. That would be Mac's heroes, Maher and Coulter and Milo.

 

[iceberg]

well then quit it.

Not the one doing it. That would be Mac's heroes, Maher and Coulter and Milo.

yea, you kinda are.

you can do a -kinda and we're set.

 

[iceberg]

Why shouldn't people be able to say "Merry Christmas" without having idiots jump down their throat over it? The intentions are good, always were.

Because maybe they are Jewish
Or Muslim
Or Atheist
Or Buddhist
Or Sihk

Or maybe they are even Christians who don't like the fact that their God's birth has been turned into an occassion for crass commercialism and consumerism. (Really, only a result of the last century. In years past, nothing like this.)

or maybe they can take it as intended - a sign someone wishes them a good holiday season.

we don't have to generalize everything. that's stupid. they're more than welcome to respond in a manner of their own choosing and i promise not many are gonna get all butthurt over it.

 

[Kondor3]

At its foundation, PC is about controlling the speech of others.
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Agreed. IMO, 'Hate Speech' goes farther. It isn't about 'controlling' the speech of others - it is about SHUTTING IT DOWN / SILENCING IT.

A common failing in Leftists... all touchy-feely emotion on the surface... repressive, intolerant schemers on the inside...

 

[Mac1958]

well then quit it.

Not the one doing it. That would be Mac's heroes, Maher and Coulter and Milo.

yea, you kinda are.

you can do a -kinda and we're set.

He thinks that, if you defend someone's freedom of expression, you must agree with them.

As an authoritarian, the notion that you'd defend someone's freedom of expression even if you disagree with them literally, simply, doesn't register with him. It's just too complicated.

It's like dealing with a child. A waste of time.
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[iceberg]

well then quit it.

Not the one doing it. That would be Mac's heroes, Maher and Coulter and Milo.

yea, you kinda are.

you can do a -kinda and we're set.

He thinks that, if you defend someone's freedom of expression, you must agree with them.

As an authoritarian, the notion that you'd defend someone's freedom of expression even if you disagree with them literally, simply, doesn't register with him. It's just too complicated.

It's like dealing with a child. A waste of time.
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and if i defend my own freedom of expression, it confuses him. seems to some to have rights is to remove others self-same rights.

 

[Mac1958]

well then quit it.

Not the one doing it. That would be Mac's heroes, Maher and Coulter and Milo.

yea, you kinda are.

you can do a -kinda and we're set.

He thinks that, if you defend someone's freedom of expression, you must agree with them.

As an authoritarian, the notion that you'd defend someone's freedom of expression even if you disagree with them literally, simply, doesn't register with him. It's just too complicated.

It's like dealing with a child. A waste of time.
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and if i defend my own freedom of expression, it confuses him. seems to some to have rights is to remove others self-same rights.

That's the binary thinking that infects ideologues. Zero sum. All or nothing. One or the other. Only.
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[JoeB131]

yea, you kinda are.

you can do a -kinda and we're set.

whatever, guy. Still waiting for you to explain why the founder of the KKK totally deserves a statue.

He thinks that, if you defend someone's freedom of expression, you must agree with them.

Your argument would have merit if we were actually putting a bag over their heads and beating them into renouncing their views.

Telling them they aren't welcome isn't imposing on their freedom of expression. It's just letting them know they are assholes.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

I voted for Hillary. Against Trump.

Keep flailing, though, anything to change the subject.
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You probably think taking a knee at a ballgame is "Hate speech" against the flag

 

[Mac1958]

You probably think taking a knee at a ballgame is "Hate speech" against the flag

Still flailing, I see. Good.

I started a thread on it, and began it with "no punishment": POLL: What should the punishment be for protesting football players? - and support their freedom of expression. And flag burners too, for that matter. And I don't use the term "hate speech", that's for you PC zealots.

Unlike you Regressives, I actually do believe in freedom of expression.

You're fighting above your weight class here. Find yourself a nice little right winger and play with them.
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[jillian]

'Political Correctness', a fascist-created term / movement that has infected this country like a cancer, has spawned an offspring just as destructive, if not more, to our freedoms and liberty, one that directly opposes our Constitutional Right to Free Speech: 'Hate Speech'.

'Hate Speech' takes 'Political Correctness' up a notch'. 'Hate Speech' is like the 'enforcer' behind 'Political Correctness'. One can be criticized for being 'Politically Incorrect', but there are those who want to 'criminalize' 'Hate Speech'. 'Hate Speech' has been elevated by some to the level of the 'N*-word' - 'YOU JUST CAN'T USE IT!'

'Hate Speech' is nothing more than saying something someone else does not want to hear. It is saying something that might 'offend' someone, and the Left is using it to strip Americans of their Right to Free Speech:


"Nearly three-fourths (71%) of Americans believe that political correctness has done more to silence important discussions our society needs to have."

A perfect example of this is the terrorist attack that occurred yesterday. The Left and the Media don't want Americans to mention / point out that the terrorist was an Islamic Extremist radicalized MUSLIM. Despite no one declaring that all Muslims are terrorists or support terrorism, the Left does not even want Americans to discuss the fact that there is a small minority of Muslims who are extremists, who are threats, and who are a danger to this country.

A serious discussion needs to be had in this country as the threat of such attacks continue to grow...but if you try to have one, the Left attacks you for being a racist, an 'Islam-a-phobe'. They try to silence you. President Obama and his administration was so determined to silence those discussions after a terrorist, given a visa and allowed to enter this country, murdered 7 Americans in California that he sent out his US Attorney General who then THREATENED American citizens with JUDICIAL PUNISHMENT if they discussed the attacks and Muslim / Islamic Extremism - if they 'engaged in 'hate speech' about Islam / Muslims'. Once again, the discussions we NEEDED to have were silenced.

Instead, after the attack yesterday, the Mayor of NY pulled out his Liberal Talking-Point sheet and went down it point-by-point.
- This was horrible.
- We will not let this destroy us.
- We will go on.
- We will recover.
- All Muslims are not evil.

Yeah, we KNOW all of that already...but when are we going to have the REAL discussions about the REAL problem and how to REALLY address it.

I do not want to make this entire thread about what happened yesterday. Again, I want to address 'Hate Speech'.

"58% of Americans believe the political climate today prevents them from saying things they believe."

That is SERIOUS.

OVER half of the country believes the political climate in this country today IS SILENCING their Constitutionally-Protected Freedom of Speech, that it is being suppressed. AND THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTS THEIR BELIEF:

- Thugs, many hired by the DNC Presidential Candidate's campaign, physically attacked opposition supporters at the opposition's own rallies, beating and bloodying supporters.

- Electoral College Voters' lives were threatened for voting the way they were going to vote

- Calls for assassinations on the left for opposing their opinions and ideology turned into an actual assassination attempt

- As mentioned, the President of the United States sent out his AG to silence American voices

- Leftist Extremist Antifa admittedly used violence to strip Americans of their Constitutional Right to Free Speech

- Berkeley Students rioted, looted, burned, and used violence to strip Americans of their right to Free Speech

.....and then they accused those on the right who they were attacking and silencing of being a 'Nazi'.

It is this VIOLENCE and INTOLERANCE from the Left that has made over half of Americans feel they can no longer fully exercise their Constitutional Freedom of Speech in this country.



The State of Free Speech and Tolerance in America

that's so cute....

all lunatic lies, of course.

but keep supporting torch bearing nazis who intentionally go to college campuses and commit violence.

is it "hate speech" to condemn a white supremacist terrrorist who drove over peaceful protestors

is it hate=speech to condemn the bigoted orange imbecile in the White House?

quiet... tell Vlad you're a fail.

 

[easyt65]

Jill, thank you for your continued delusional rants. As always, you never provide facts, evidence, links, even common sense, ... or civility, ... but your bitter, hate-driven attacks are always amusing to read.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

You're fighting above your weight class here. Find yourself a nice little right winger and play with them.
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sure above my weight class ...spoken like a True Trump rube

I don't know but its been said
that your ass is filled with lead

Extremism in Opposition to Trump and Republicans is no vice ....its virtue ...I am committed to defend America against enemies both Foreign and from the GOP

 

[Mac1958]

You're fighting above your weight class here. Find yourself a nice little right winger and play with them.
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sure above my weight class ...spoken like a True Trump rube

I don't know but its been said
that your ass is filled with lead

Extremism in Opposition to Trump and Republicans is no vice ....its virtue ...I am committed to defend America against enemies both Foreign and from the GOP

Again, I voted for Hillary, against Trump.

Clearly your ideology has distorted your perceptive skills, which is a normal manifestation of ideology.

I may as well be trying to communicate with a wild-eyed teenager on the streets of Damascus.

Again, please find a right winger who wants to do this.
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[TyroneSlothrop]

You're fighting above your weight class here. Find yourself a nice little right winger and play with them.
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sure above my weight class ...spoken like a True Trump rube

I don't know but its been said
that your ass is filled with lead

Extremism in Opposition to Trump and Republicans is no vice ....its virtue ...I am committed to defend America against enemies both Foreign and from the GOP

Again, I voted for Hillary, against Trump.

Clearly your ideology has distorted your perceptive skills, which is a normal manifestation of ideology.

I may as well be trying to communicate with a wild-eyed teenager on the streets of Damascus.

Again, please find a right winger who wants to do this.
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You are the voice of mature measured gravitas ...am I right LOL....these mother fuckers are not normal ...they are white Supremacist KKK r s and other nasty toxic not normal people ...you want me to act like they are normal...they are not normal...what can your measured mature gravitas skill set do with a WWF Circus Barker hate promoter like Donald Trump ? LOL

 

[JoeB131]

I may as well be trying to communicate with a wild-eyed teenager on the streets of Damascus.

Yawn... finding brown people to look down on?

Anyway, sorry, telling Ann Coulter she isn't welcome on your campus is no more suppressing free speech than a newspaper dropping her column- which nearly every newspaper in the country has done at this point.

You can't go about saying "Every viewpoint deserves equal time"... we tried that back in the 1970's, and what we ended up with was Hobgoblin Radicals spewing mutilated marxism on the equal time segments every TV station had to provide.

Sometimes you have to make a value judgment. If Milo is fired by Breitbart then the Kids at Berkeley have every right to chase him off campus.

 

[Mac1958]

Well, good, all the Regressives are in agreement here.


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