'Hate Speech' Is Anything You Don't Want To Hear

[g5000]

'Political Correctness', a fascist-created term / movement that has infected this country like a cancer, has spawned an offspring just as destructive, if not more, to our freedoms and liberty, one that directly opposes our Constitutional Right to Free Speech: 'Hate Speech'.

'Hate Speech' takes 'Political Correctness' up a notch'. 'Hate Speech' is like the 'enforcer' behind 'Political Correctness'. One can be criticized for being 'Politically Incorrect', but there are those who want to 'criminalize' 'Hate Speech'. 'Hate Speech' has been elevated by some to the level of the 'N*-word' - 'YOU JUST CAN'T USE IT!'

'Hate Speech' is nothing more than saying something someone else does not want to hear. It is saying something that might 'offend' someone, and the Left is using it to strip Americans of their Right to Free Speech:


"Nearly three-fourths (71%) of Americans believe that political correctness has done more to silence important discussions our society needs to have."

A perfect example of this is the terrorist attack that occurred yesterday. The Left and the Media don't want Americans to mention / point out that the terrorist was an Islamic Extremist radicalized MUSLIM. Despite no one declaring that all Muslims are terrorists or support terrorism, the Left does not even want Americans to discuss the fact that there is a small minority of Muslims who are extremists, who are threats, and who are a danger to this country.

A serious discussion needs to be had in this country as the threat of such attacks continue to grow...but if you try to have one, the Left attacks you for being a racist, an 'Islam-a-phobe'. They try to silence you. President Obama and his administration was so determined to silence those discussions after a terrorist, given a visa and allowed to enter this country, murdered 7 Americans in California that he sent out his US Attorney General who then THREATENED American citizens with JUDICIAL PUNISHMENT if they discussed the attacks and Muslim / Islamic Extremism - if they 'engaged in 'hate speech' about Islam / Muslims'. Once again, the discussions we NEEDED to have were silenced.

Instead, after the attack yesterday, the Mayor of NY pulled out his Liberal Talking-Point sheet and went down it point-by-point.
- This was horrible.
- We will not let this destroy us.
- We will go on.
- We will recover.
- All Muslims are not evil.

Yeah, we KNOW all of that already...but when are we going to have the REAL discussions about the REAL problem and how to REALLY address it.

I do not want to make this entire thread about what happened yesterday. Again, I want to address 'Hate Speech'.

"58% of Americans believe the political climate today prevents them from saying things they believe."

That is SERIOUS.

OVER half of the country believes the political climate in this country today IS SILENCING their Constitutionally-Protected Freedom of Speech, that it is being suppressed. AND THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTS THEIR BELIEF:

- Thugs, many hired by the DNC Presidential Candidate's campaign, physically attacked opposition supporters at the opposition's own rallies, beating and bloodying supporters.

- Electoral College Voters' lives were threatened for voting the way they were going to vote

- Calls for assassinations on the left for opposing their opinions and ideology turned into an actual assassination attempt

- As mentioned, the President of the United States sent out his AG to silence American voices

- Leftist Extremist Antifa admittedly used violence to strip Americans of their Constitutional Right to Free Speech

- Berkeley Students rioted, looted, burned, and used violence to strip Americans of their right to Free Speech

.....and then they accused those on the right who they were attacking and silencing of being a 'Nazi'.

It is this VIOLENCE and INTOLERANCE from the Left that has made over half of Americans feel they can no longer fully exercise their Constitutional Freedom of Speech in this country.



The State of Free Speech and Tolerance in America

Soggy in NOLA

What's it like to meltdown 7 days a week?

 

[Wry Catcher]

As usual, easyt65 once again has no knowledge of the law. While I have not Sheparized this case, it defines nicely hate speech is not Constituionally Protected:

See: Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court articulated the fighting words doctrine, a limitation of the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of speech.

Opinion of the Court
The Court, in a unanimous decision, upheld the arrest. Writing the decision for the Court, Justice Frank Murphy advanced a "two-tier theory" of the First Amendment. Certain "well-defined and narrowly limited" categories of speech fall outside the bounds of constitutional protection. Thus, "the lewd and obscene, the profane, the slanderous," and (in this case) insulting or "fighting" words neither contributed to the expression of ideas nor possessed any "social value" in the search for truth.[3]

you seem to be applying this "well defined and narrowly limited" rather...liberally.

in this very case from their own opinion they also state that while chaplinskys arrest would be upheld, it was very limited in scope, again per their own opinion. so while you may think VIOLA (wa-la!) you win because you cited a court case, i borrow another fav. princesses bride movie line.

you keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means.

Seems to me your biases cloud your thinking. As I wrote, I did not seek further USSC cases which might have expanded on this issue or limited it. A movie is not a convincing rebuttal to the law.

your court case. you figure out how to make it apply. I quoted your case directly about the opinion of the verdict and it would seem your bias is pushing their intended limits.

LOL that's how precedents work, you take a law which applies and and make a ruling. If you can find a case which disputes my post please do. I won't waste my time doing a search of subsequent cases which apply the ruling or limit it.

Feel free to express your opinion, but try not to use my evidence to support what you want to believe.

Most large municipalities have a law library; I suggest you buy "How to Shepardize" first, or hire a legal researcher.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Sure, there's no real definition of "hate speech". It's entirely up for situational interpretation, and entirely the realm of the PC zealots for political advantage.

yep. but i thought "anything you don't want to hear" worked well. i do believe far too many people use it as an excuse to "get away with" telling someone to shut up when there is really no recourse or reason to do it other than you don't like it.

At its foundation, PC is about controlling the speech of others.
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Yelling Fake News is about shutting down Freedom of the Press

Donald Trump Versus Freedom Of The Press

 

[Mac1958]

Sure, there's no real definition of "hate speech". It's entirely up for situational interpretation, and entirely the realm of the PC zealots for political advantage.

yep. but i thought "anything you don't want to hear" worked well. i do believe far too many people use it as an excuse to "get away with" telling someone to shut up when there is really no recourse or reason to do it other than you don't like it.

At its foundation, PC is about controlling the speech of others.
.

Yelling Fake News is about shutting down Freedom of the Press

Donald Trump Versus Freedom Of The Press

Deflection noted, thanks.
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[iceberg]

As usual, easyt65 once again has no knowledge of the law. While I have not Sheparized this case, it defines nicely hate speech is not Constituionally Protected:

See: Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court articulated the fighting words doctrine, a limitation of the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of speech.

Opinion of the Court
The Court, in a unanimous decision, upheld the arrest. Writing the decision for the Court, Justice Frank Murphy advanced a "two-tier theory" of the First Amendment. Certain "well-defined and narrowly limited" categories of speech fall outside the bounds of constitutional protection. Thus, "the lewd and obscene, the profane, the slanderous," and (in this case) insulting or "fighting" words neither contributed to the expression of ideas nor possessed any "social value" in the search for truth.[3]

you seem to be applying this "well defined and narrowly limited" rather...liberally.

in this very case from their own opinion they also state that while chaplinskys arrest would be upheld, it was very limited in scope, again per their own opinion. so while you may think VIOLA (wa-la!) you win because you cited a court case, i borrow another fav. princesses bride movie line.

you keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means.

Seems to me your biases cloud your thinking. As I wrote, I did not seek further USSC cases which might have expanded on this issue or limited it. A movie is not a convincing rebuttal to the law.

your court case. you figure out how to make it apply. I quoted your case directly about the opinion of the verdict and it would seem your bias is pushing their intended limits.

LOL that's how precedents work, you take a law which applies and and make a ruling. If you can find a case which disputes my post please do. I won't waste my time doing a search of subsequent cases which apply the ruling or limit it.

Feel free to express your opinion, but try not to use my evidence to support what you want to believe.

Most large municipalities have a law library; I suggest you buy "How to Shepardize" first, or hire a legal researcher.

agreed. i try to set precedents in here also on how we "judge" people and find it funny their methods change in accordance to WHO they are judging.

getting dirt on the opposition - FOUL!!!
they do it - OPPOSITION RESEARCH

cracks me up.

now if the latest "precedent" you can find is 1942, don't blame me you used the wrong one. that one YOU cite is very narrow in scope - i did go look and compare. so at this point it would appear you're trying to hide behind legalese and hoping no one follows up.

i did.

again, there is a serious limit that was noted with this decision you're choosing to ignore.

but given your own "history of precedences" i'm not surprised at all.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Deflection noted, thanks.
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Failure to acknowledge information noted..you are not on the side of defending letting others say things you do not want to hear chump...you are on the side of those who want to muzzle the Free Press because you do not like what it is reporting Chump

 

[iceberg]

Sure, there's no real definition of "hate speech". It's entirely up for situational interpretation, and entirely the realm of the PC zealots for political advantage.

yep. but i thought "anything you don't want to hear" worked well. i do believe far too many people use it as an excuse to "get away with" telling someone to shut up when there is really no recourse or reason to do it other than you don't like it.

At its foundation, PC is about controlling the speech of others.
.

Yelling Fake News is about shutting down Freedom of the Press

Donald Trump Versus Freedom Of The Press

then why do the left yell just as often and just as loud when they don't like the "news"?

 

[Mac1958]

Deflection noted, thanks.
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Failure to acknowledge information noted..you are not on the side of defending letting others say things you do not want to hear chump...you are on the side of those who want to muzzle the Free Press because you do not like what it is reporting Chump

Just another triggered Regressive, dime a dozen.

This world needs more liberals, and fewer people like you.
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[hadit]

Because the power grid was in poor shape long before the storm hit. The point is, that's not the American president's responsibility. When such a powerful storm hits a poorly maintained power grid in an area that is not easily accessed, restoration does not happen quickly, no matter how much you think it should.

well, it happens a lot slower when you grant a 300 MILLION dollar contract to a crony corporation that has no expereince in such things.

Puerto Rico moves to cancel contract with Whitefish Energy to repair electric grid

The contract with Whitefish Energy — a firm that had just two employees the day the storm hit — had drawn blistering criticism from members of Congress for days. And on Friday the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which has a large role in determining government reimbursements, said it had “significant concerns” about how the contract was secured.

Thirty-nine days after Hurricane Maria hit the territory, Gov. Ricardo Rosselló said that he is requesting assistance from Florida and New York under “mutual aid” arrangements that utilities traditionally activate during emergencies.

Do you really want to go down the road of pretending that only this president might steer business the way of companies based on criteria known only to themselves? I said I want specific examples of people dying because Trump is president who, under a different one, would not. You've not given a solid answer this far. I'm beginning to think that this is yet another in a long line of wild, emotional, exaggerated and unsupported accusations from you.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Just another triggered Regressive, dime a dozen.

This world needs more liberals, and fewer people like you.
.

Just another pathetically phony proclaiming to be against Political Correct while shilling madly for Trump who vows making saying "Merry Christmas" the new Politically Correct

 

[Mac1958]

Just another triggered Regressive, dime a dozen.

This world needs more liberals, and fewer people like you.
.

Just another pathetically phony proclaiming to be against Political Correct while shilling madly for Trump who vows making saying "Merry Christmas" the new Politically Correct

I voted for Hillary. Against Trump.

Keep flailing, though, anything to change the subject.
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[TyroneSlothrop]

Is Kneeling at a ballgame during the National Anthem Politically Correct

Yes_____


No_______

How come Colin Kaepernik s being seen as a hate speech purveyor for taking a knee at a ball game ...are you all fucking serious ...you are the SWAT team Police of Political Correct

 

[Mac1958]

As we can see on this thread, Regressive Leftists chafe at being exposed as the illiberal leftist authoritarians that they are.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

As we can see on this thread, Regressive Leftists chafe at being exposed as the illiberal leftist authoritarians that they are.

Happy Holidays at least there is one bright spot to counter me dude LOL

 

[Mac1958]

As we can see on this thread, Regressive Leftists chafe at being exposed as the illiberal leftist authoritarians that they are.

Happy Holidays at least there is one bright spot to counter me dude LOL

I have no idea what this means, but good for you, whatever it is.

I do tend to make Regressives go off the rails, so that's okay.
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[EverCurious]

Why shouldn't people be able to say "Merry Christmas" without having idiots jump down their throat over it? The intentions are good, always were. Why do modern lefties take every single thing said and hunt like bloodhounds to find some minuscule member(s) of the population who might possibly be offended by it? I mean this shit didn't happen in the past, like not even say five years ago or so. This modern crop of SJW's are absolute shit when it comes to making positive changes in America, they're full of shit in their invention of what needs to be fixed, and they're not helping anyone trying to satisfy their ridiculously needy egos.

Kick the little shits to the curb and let them cry in their blankies and hide behind their mama's apron while the rest of us get back to work making actual positive changes for the nation and the world. Fuck socialism, fuck globalism, fuck Europe. We used to lead the world, in all things, until these idiot socialist communist fucks started pushing their bullshit; and ever since we gave them the kindness of trying it their way, compromising with them, we've been going downhill fast. Fuck em, let em move, and let us get back to being the leaders of the /free/ world.

 

[Mac1958]

Why shouldn't people be able to say "Merry Christmas" without having idiots jump down their throat over it? The intentions are good, always were. Why do modern lefties take every single thing said and hunt like bloodhounds to find some minuscule member(s) of the population who might possibly be offended by it? I mean this shit didn't happen in the past, like not even say five years ago or so. This modern crop of SJW's are absolute shit when it comes to making positive changes in America, they're full of shit in their invention of what needs to be fixed, and they're not helping anyone trying to satisfy their ridiculously needy egos.

Kick the little shits to the curb and let them cry in their blankies and hide behind their mama's apron while the rest of us get back to work making actual positive changes for the nation and the world. Fuck socialism, fuck globalism, fuck Europe. We used to lead the world, in all things, until these idiot socialist communist fucks started pushing their bullshit; and ever since we gave them the kindness of trying it their way, compromising with them, we've been going downhill fast. Fuck em, let em move, and let us get back to being the leaders of the /free/ world.

These people have made their opinions of this country pretty clear. You would just assume that they support true freedom of expression, the core value of this country, but they do not.

They're playing under different rules. You can't assume they give a crap about this country. They've told us many times - they intend to "fundamentally change" it.
.

 

[EverCurious]

Why shouldn't people be able to say "Merry Christmas" without having idiots jump down their throat over it? The intentions are good, always were. Why do modern lefties take every single thing said and hunt like bloodhounds to find some minuscule member(s) of the population who might possibly be offended by it? I mean this shit didn't happen in the past, like not even say five years ago or so. This modern crop of SJW's are absolute shit when it comes to making positive changes in America, they're full of shit in their invention of what needs to be fixed, and they're not helping anyone trying to satisfy their ridiculously needy egos.

Kick the little shits to the curb and let them cry in their blankies and hide behind their mama's apron while the rest of us get back to work making actual positive changes for the nation and the world. Fuck socialism, fuck globalism, fuck Europe. We used to lead the world, in all things, until these idiot socialist communist fucks started pushing their bullshit; and ever since we gave them the kindness of trying it their way, compromising with them, we've been going downhill fast. Fuck em, let em move, and let us get back to being the leaders of the /free/ world.

These people have made their opinions of this country pretty clear. You would just assume that they support true freedom of expression, the core value of this country, but they do not.

They're playing under different rules. You can't assume they give a crap about this country. They've told us many times - they intend to "fundamentally change" it.
.

Yeah well fuck that. Let em move. They can go to Mexico and "change" that nation - those people actually /need/ a fundamental change.

 

[JoeB131]

900 people have died, they do nothing to attribute said deaths to anyone in particular.

Game, Set, Match.

you mean other than no water, no electricity, poor distribution of food and medicine...

Trump Lied, People Died.

 

[JoeB131]

These people have made their opinions of this country pretty clear. You would just assume that they support true freedom of expression, the core value of this country, but they do not.

They're playing under different rules. You can't assume they give a crap about this country. They've told us many times - they intend to "fundamentally change" it.

yes, what dark times we live in when internet trolls can't spew racism, misogyny and homophobia on open airwaves.