Has Obama' policies put us in another recession?

[drsmith1072]

Excuses, excuses, excuses...Whine, whine, whine

LOL Thanks for summing up the content of your posts. You can go now hypocrite. LOL

I'll go when I damn well please, lil' man, who can't produce an Obama plan.

Or record.

Or anything to refute what I said.

You're weak son.....Very, very weak.

I don't have to refute what you said but failed to prove. You made the argument the burden of proof is on YOU. The fact that you continue to tell me to prove you wrong shows that you know that you have NOTHING to offer. If you did you would be jumping at the bit to dsiplay it. So where is your subtance lil man? LOL

Thanks for that laughs and nothing but your usual cowardice, dishonesty and hypocrisy.

 

[Oldstyle]

Has Obama' policies put us in another recession?

Extremely unlikely. The current Administration hasn’t been in office long enough for its policies, such as they are, to have any impact on the economy, good or bad. And these are hardly ‘Obama’s policies, as he’s merely continuing the same policies used by GWB toward the end of his term and the same policies McCain would have used had he’d been president.

If there’s another recession, it will be the consequence of consumers over-burdened with debt without the means to spend, an almost non-existent housing market, continued economic turmoil in the EU, and corporations unwilling to invest their enormous cash reserves and/or hire new employees because they know consumers can’t spend.

What I find hilarious is that even in this thread the rightwingers claim obama and the dems haven't done ANYTHING even as they claim his policies have caused this mess.

LOL How can something he hasn't done create this mess?

So you pretty much admit that in 2 1/2 years he hasn't done ANYTHING? You see...it isn't so much that he got us INTO this mess...it's that he's done NOTHING to get us OUT of the mess. What's weird is that you want him to have four more years.

 

[Oldstyle]

What stopped the recovery is Pubs obstructing the magic negro. Really dumb if you care about the country. Seriously, you blew it. could've been over by now. Austerity and obstruction gets us THIS.

When did "austerity" take place? Conservatives have been calling for austerity but God knows it hasn't happened under this Administration.

 

[Oldstyle]

I'm just curious at this point, libs...

Do you really expect Barack Obama to fix our problems if he GETS another 4 years?

I'm sorry...but I don't see it. He's run out of ideas already and he's still got a year and a half to go in his first term and the economy is headed straight for a double dip recession. Time to give somebody another shot. If you don't want a Republican in there then find a Democrat to replace Obama with because right now this is getting UGLY!

 

[JRK]

Has Obama' policies put us in another recession?

Extremely unlikely. The current Administration hasn’t been in office long enough for its policies, such as they are, to have any impact on the economy, good or bad. And these are hardly ‘Obama’s policies, as he’s merely continuing the same policies used by GWB toward the end of his term and the same policies McCain would have used had he’d been president.

If there’s another recession, it will be the consequence of consumers over-burdened with debt without the means to spend, an almost non-existent housing market, continued economic turmoil in the EU, and corporations unwilling to invest their enormous cash reserves and/or hire new employees because they know consumers can’t spend.

What I find hilarious is that even in this thread the rightwingers claim obama and the dems haven't done ANYTHING even as they claim his policies have caused this mess.

LOL How can something he hasn't done create this mess?

You think the status of our country is funny?
they have done nothing to generate jobs, growth, and given any-one a reason to invest
His payroll tax cut of pennies has really been it

Yes they have done plenty, but nothing that has been good for the tax payer except that 5.00 a week more if you have a job

 

[JRK]

dr what has Obama and the dem congress that had close to a super majority 09-10 done other than the
failed stimulus
grabbing 250 billion of tarp
Obama-care
more
http://peoplesworld.org/obama-halts-offshore-drilling/
Interior Dept. Announces Delays to U.S. Oil Shale Production - House Committee on Natural Resources
http://www.detnews.com/article/2011...-says-cost-of-Obama-s-coal-regs--250-000-jobs

the man is a job killing machine

 

[JRK]

dr what has Obama and the dem congress that had close to a super majority 09-10 done other than the
failed stimulus
grabbing 250 billion of tarp
Obama-care
more
Obama halts offshore drilling » peoplesworld
Interior Dept. Announces Delays to U.S. Oil Shale Production - House Committee on Natural Resources
Union: Cost of Obama coal regs is 250,000 jobs | themichiganview.com | The Michigan View

the man is a job killing machine

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Extremely unlikely. The current Administration hasn’t been in office long enough for its policies, such as they are, to have any impact on the economy, good or bad. And these are hardly ‘Obama’s policies, as he’s merely continuing the same policies used by GWB toward the end of his term and the same policies McCain would have used had he’d been president.

If there’s another recession, it will be the consequence of consumers over-burdened with debt without the means to spend, an almost non-existent housing market, continued economic turmoil in the EU, and corporations unwilling to invest their enormous cash reserves and/or hire new employees because they know consumers can’t spend.

What I find hilarious is that even in this thread the rightwingers claim obama and the dems haven't done ANYTHING even as they claim his policies have caused this mess.

LOL How can something he hasn't done create this mess?

You think the status of our country is funny?
they have done nothing to generate jobs, growth, and given any-one a reason to invest
His payroll tax cut of pennies has really been it

Yes they have done plenty, but nothing that has been good for the tax payer except that 5.00 a week more if you have a job

That wasn't a tax cut because at the end of the tax year you had to file it and pay it back. Which placed another burden on the tax payer at the end of the tax year.

 

[JRK]

What I find hilarious is that even in this thread the rightwingers claim obama and the dems haven't done ANYTHING even as they claim his policies have caused this mess.

LOL How can something he hasn't done create this mess?

You think the status of our country is funny?
they have done nothing to generate jobs, growth, and given any-one a reason to invest
His payroll tax cut of pennies has really been it

Yes they have done plenty, but nothing that has been good for the tax payer except that 5.00 a week more if you have a job

That wasn't a tax cut because at the end of the tax year you had to file it and pay it back. Which placed another burden on the tax payer at the end of the tax year.

I did not know that
I use an accountant
not because I am rich, never mind as to the why
Thanks

 

[JiggsCasey]

as Obama' policies put us in another recession?

No, the Earth's natural limits have. And the truth is, we never really left the recession.

This myth of "infinite growth" really needs to stop. Infinite growth is not possible on a finite planet. We have reached the ceiling of global "cheap" energy production. There can be no growth when energy is no longer "cheap."

This was all gonna be NO different under McCain, make no mistake about it.

Is it starting to sink in yet why we invaded Iraq and the rest of the world let us? No matter who produces the black gold, the beast must keep being fed.

 

[editec]

Has Obama' policies put us in another recession?

Of course not.

You've been duped into thinking the Bush II recession ended.

Technically it did, but in reality few Americans ever got out of it.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Has Obama' policies put us in another recession?

Of course not.

You've been duped into thinking the Bush II recession ended.

Technically it did, but in reality few Americans ever got out of it.

You are right Bushes recession has never ended, and obama has made ten times worse. You've been duped into thinking obama has not had an effect on the recovery.

 

[midcan5]

Why would anyone consider Standard and Poor a credible source of anything? Were they not the buffoons who said the real estate boondoggle was stable and sound economics? They should be thought of as fools at the most charitable.

The republicans and big money conservatives have done everything they could to try to make Obama fail, they did the same to every democratic president since FDR beat them badly. It seems sometimes the republicans are still fighting his ghost.

Right now it is up to Americans of good faith to build here, buy here, and support here. We were at a show yesterday in Atlantic City and the casino was crowded and people were spending, one could say wasting their money. Recessions are often in the mind. If only we could mass hypnotize the republicans that Obama is really Ronnie life would be just fine.

Were they the only agency to do so?

Two wrongs make a right? Or is it three or four? Any idea?

How We Were Ruined & What We Can Do by Jeff Madrick | The New York Review of Books


Archive: The Great Recession | magazine | Vanity Fair


The End Of Wall Streets Boom - News Markets - Portfolio.com
Boston Review — Jeff Madrick: No New Tax Cuts
Boston Review — Dean Baker: Free Market Myth

 

[JRK]

as Obama' policies put us in another recession?

No, the Earth's natural limits have. And the truth is, we never really left the recession.

This myth of "infinite growth" really needs to stop. Infinite growth is not possible on a finite planet. We have reached the ceiling of global "cheap" energy production. There can be no growth when energy is no longer "cheap."

This was all gonna be NO different under McCain, make no mistake about it.

Is it starting to sink in yet why we invaded Iraq and the rest of the world let us? No matter who produces the black gold, the beast must keep being fed.

what does Iraq have to do with this mess?
we won
its over
by years end there will be no more than 10k there
in 2007 when it was wide open we had 5% UE within 163 billion of a balanced budget

 

[JRK]

Why would anyone consider Standard and Poor a credible source of anything? Were they not the buffoons who said the real estate boondoggle was stable and sound economics? They should be thought of as fools at the most charitable.

The republicans and big money conservatives have done everything they could to try to make Obama fail, they did the same to every democratic president since FDR beat them badly. It seems sometimes the republicans are still fighting his ghost.

Right now it is up to Americans of good faith to build here, buy here, and support here. We were at a show yesterday in Atlantic City and the casino was crowded and people were spending, one could say wasting their money. Recessions are often in the mind. If only we could mass hypnotize the republicans that Obama is really Ronnie life would be just fine.

Were they the only agency to do so?

Two wrongs make a right? Or is it three or four? Any idea?

How We Were Ruined & What We Can Do by Jeff Madrick | The New York Review of Books


Archive: The Great Recession | magazine | Vanity Fair


The End Of Wall Streets Boom - News Markets - Portfolio.com
Boston Review — Jeff Madrick: No New Tax Cuts
Boston Review — Dean Baker: Free Market Myth

the liberal mind thinks an opinion has something to do with a fact
why is that?

 

[JRK]

And you believe Rush and Sean and Savage. Bought off a-holes!! Tell me how we're massacring Libyan children again...and wave good bye to your hero Kaddafi!

ROFLMAO I bet during Iraq you could have been on the Receiving end of this type of line.

How is it you libs can be all for sending our troops into Libya for Humanitarian Reasons, Yet still oppose the War in Iraq which of course has the Same Powerful, or even more Powerful Humanitarian Reasons to support. Saddam slaughtered roughly 1 Million People a year when he was in power.

Hypocrites

A. NO TROOPS!!
B. Saddam? The dupes are told he killed a million altogether- and that was 90% in the war against Iran- that we put him up to!! Pure BS, dupe. Raygun also enjoyed them gassing the Kurds with the gas he gave him. You are sorely misled. Turn off the BS. STUPIDEST WAR EVER!!

Dude Saddam was a mad man
are you saying that him killing only 100,000 outside the Iran war was ok? and are you also saying that RR had anything to do with Saddam gassing his own people?

And as far as being the stupidest war ever? you have that right to have that opinion
But what amazes me is you have no issue with the democrats who supported it which were many

 

[JRK]

GDP growth is below half of what it should be coming out of a recession. Obama has managed the Worst Recovery of the modern era.

Threats of higher taxes, disregard of lawful contracts in order to favor cronies, expanded entitlements, and heavy handed regulation do not foster economic growth.

Its that simple really

Only to a simpleton.

Threats of higher taxes? Yes but the job creators have had the taxcuts for years and cut jobs instead of creating them so that argument from the right is worthless. W's taxcuts were extended under that argument last time so where are the jobs?

Specifics on the lawful contract claim please.

expanded entitlements?? I can only assume that you mean the healthcare bill bedause in the midterms the right used the fact that part of the healthcare bill cut waste from medicare as a campaign issue to get votes only to try to destroy medicare as we know it once they came into office.

Heavy handed regulation?? Specifics??

Contract law was in the case of GM and Chrysler
It was in my opinion the first true socialist event in this countries history. Not a maybe
Not even close
http://www.marketskeptics.com/2009/05/obama-administration-tearing-contract.html
If GWB had done this he would have been im peached

 

[Toro]

as Obama' policies put us in another recession?

No, the Earth's natural limits have. And the truth is, we never really left the recession.

This myth of "infinite growth" really needs to stop. Infinite growth is not possible on a finite planet. We have reached the ceiling of global "cheap" energy production. There can be no growth when energy is no longer "cheap."

This was all gonna be NO different under McCain, make no mistake about it.

Is it starting to sink in yet why we invaded Iraq and the rest of the world let us? No matter who produces the black gold, the beast must keep being fed.

Growth is not bound by the earth's resources. Growth is bound only by man's ability to manipulate those resources. All economic growth is a function of technological innovation. There can be infinite growth if there is infinite innovation. Thus, the only economic bounds are the bounds of the human mind.

 

[JRK]

as Obama' policies put us in another recession?

No, the Earth's natural limits have. And the truth is, we never really left the recession.

This myth of "infinite growth" really needs to stop. Infinite growth is not possible on a finite planet. We have reached the ceiling of global "cheap" energy production. There can be no growth when energy is no longer "cheap."

This was all gonna be NO different under McCain, make no mistake about it.

Is it starting to sink in yet why we invaded Iraq and the rest of the world let us? No matter who produces the black gold, the beast must keep being fed.

Growth is not bound by the earth's resources. Growth is bound only by man's ability to manipulate those resources. All economic growth is a function of technological innovation. There can be infinite growth if there is infinite innovation. Thus, the only economic bounds are the bounds of the human mind.

Not sure what the beast and Irq has to do with bounds of the human mind
but I can tell you this
there is more oil in this country than we know what to do with and if Obama would get out of the way people have the technology to find it, refine it and sell it while creating jobs at the same time, up our tax bas, cut down the deficit and all of this without a 800 billion dollar failed stimulus
WSJ: US has the world’s largest oil shale and coal reserves | Peak Oil News and Message Boards