dilloduck
Diamond Member
Thats what i get trying to deal with this guy Mr. Potman. Simple question--no answer. Who looks foolish now?
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Originally posted by NewGuy
No. I said for YOU to prove YOUR assertions. Obviously you can't.
I take that to mean you cannot prove your beliefs, as usual, therefore you condemn others.
Originally posted by skhaldi
Wa ailakoum salam. I hope maybe I can at least open some people's eyes to how beautiful Islam is. I was in the same position only two years ago and I believed that the only purpose to Islam was violence and hatred. Thankfully I had an open mind and was willing to listen instead of always talk. I hope that maybe someone on this message board will also be open-minded.
Qur'an 9:5
So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the infidels (all non-believers) wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Qur'an 5:23-25 and 76:19-20
The Mount
52:23 They shall there exchange, one with another, a (loving) cup free of frivolity, free of all taint of SIN.
The Mount
52:24 Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them. Boys (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.
The Mount
52:25 They will advance to each other, engaging in mutual enquiry.
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Time, Man, (every) Man, This (day-and-)age
76:19 And round about them will (serve) BOYS of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls.
Time, Man, (every) Man, This (day-and-)age
76:20 And when thou lookest, it is there thou wilt see a Bliss and a Realm Magnificent.
Originally posted by NewGuy
John 15:
18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
You have taken the verse out of context. Do a little research and repost it along with the other verses that accompany it. This was part of a discussion.Originally posted by ajwps
Paul of Tarsus, main writer and coordinator of the New Testament Gospels admits that Jesus needs PRETENSE or LYING to obtain converts for Jesus.
Philippians 1
18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
Does a god need to use pretence in order to preach Christ? Does the proselitizer rejoice if he has to lie to others?
Originally posted by freeandfun1
Originally posted by ajwps
Just one or two questions:
Why did Paul in his Philippian Epistle 1:18 talk about himself in the first person if he was referring to pastors in general and relate that he himself "rejoices (twice repeated) in it."
Why would a god so unknowable, all good, all knowing, the creator of all things care if 'unsaved men' were used to preach or convert men by pretence?
Then G-d would not be as omniscient or as holy as I would expect of the greatest entity who has alwasy existed in a timelessness.
No wonder He made man imperfectly and full of sin from his conception.
Originally posted by NewGuy