Gun Grabbing bill is signed by Colorado governor,sheriffs vow not to enforce it

[22lcidw]

Controversial Colorado gun bill becomes law, 11 sheriffs willing to choose jail over enforcement - CNN

Good for those Sheriff's! Its unconstitutional.

Sad, Sheriff’s refusing to do their jobs. They don’t make laws, they enforce them.

Yet you are first in line with accusations of brutality when enforcing those laws.

 

[francoHFW]

GOP dupes have lost respect for our law enforcement and FBI and CIA, but for all the wrong imaginary brainwashed reasons. There is no conspiracy against Trump or Republicans. Or any other conspiracy for that matter, except the right-wing propaganda 1.

Still as stupid as always.

the entire Republican Party is now full of conspiracy not jobs who believe our lawn Forest meant sister my protecting Hillary Obama's learner holder the CIA the FBI etcetera etcetera. Pure craziness... The law enforcement and journalists of the entire world think you are nuts.... Only bought off ridiculous pundits agree with you, everybody you listen to on your side is lying or brainwashed...

 

[Kondor3]

...It's always funny when you leftist morons insist the military would support your totalitarianism. Not gonna happen. You can just forget about that little Brownshirt wet dream.

There is nothing "American" about rebelling against lawful authority.

There is nothing "American" about sedition.

There is nothing "American" about violence against elected civilian officials because you don't like a law.

Members of the United States Armed Forces are sworn to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign AND domestic.

The only "brownshirts" around here are those advocating to send armed force against elected officials.

Punk.

But you sending armed forces against civilians to enforce your totalitarianism isn't?

Eat shit, fascist.

Sit down, little boy, and mind your manners.

 

[Kondor3]

...This law is a side step around due process. And why should a person have to incur the expense of a mental health examination in order to prove anything? If the court wants to order a mental health evaluation then the court should foot the bill to prove that the state has the authority to suspend a citizen's rights. THAT is due process

Safety first, Constitutionality second... a practical necessity... it's the way the world works.

At the start of the Civil War, Lincoln suspended habeus corpus in the interests of public safety.

The President decided that the threat outweighed the Constitutional Right being set aside temporarily.​

At the start of WWII, Roosevelt incarcerated scores of thousands of Japanese-Americans in the interests of public safety.

The President decided that the threat outweighed the Constitutional Right being set aside temporarily.​

In Colorado, the State temporarily impounds firearms of suspected mental illness victims in the interests of public safety.

The State Legislature decided that the threat outweighed the Constitutional Right being set aside temporarily.​

When constitutionality and safety are dramatically juxtaposed, safety almost always wins.

Peoples' lives are more important than allowing a mentally unbalanced individual to continue to possess firearms.

Will it be abused from time to time and will the law 'get it wrong' from time to time? Yep.

But for every one it gets wrong, it will get a hundred right, and a lot of folks will live, who might not have otherwise.

And that is the single most important thing, not the feelings of knuckle-dragging NRA bumper-sticker echo-chambers.

This legislation merely accelerates due process on an emergency basis, vetted by a law-judge, based upon testimony.

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I agree, however, that the State should foot the bill for subsequent mental health examinations to affirm or dismiss the impound.

Raise your hand if you think gun control is a good idea.

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What are you... like... ten years old, child?

 

[Brain357]

Controversial Colorado gun bill becomes law, 11 sheriffs willing to choose jail over enforcement - CNN

Good for those Sheriff's! Its unconstitutional.

Sad, Sheriff’s refusing to do their jobs. They don’t make laws, they enforce them.

What is sad is libtards thinking they are smart. Stupid law signed by a stupid cimmie gov.

They are trying to protect people. These sheriffs should follow and do their jobs. If its not constitutional, that's a job for judges.

 

[Brain357]

Controversial Colorado gun bill becomes law, 11 sheriffs willing to choose jail over enforcement - CNN

Good for those Sheriff's! Its unconstitutional.

Sad, Sheriff’s refusing to do their jobs. They don’t make laws, they enforce them.

Yet you are first in line with accusations of brutality when enforcing those laws.

Now there is a baseless claim. Good job.

 

[Kondor3]

It is not the job of a county sheriff to make or judge the law.

It is the job of a county sheriff to enforce the law.

Any sheriff unable to do his (or her) job should step down, or, failing that, be removed from office.

 

[Rustic]

Controversial Colorado gun bill becomes law, 11 sheriffs willing to choose jail over enforcement - CNN

Good for those Sheriff's! Its unconstitutional.

I don't see how it's controversial.

We have the same law in my state. Our state legislature isn't responsible for my state having the law. The people of my state are. It was a ballot measure a while back. It passed with a good margin. I voted in the majority.

If a person is a danger to themselves or someone else they shouldn't have a weapon.

I will never understand why people will work so hard to make sure those who are a danger to themselves or someone are able to get and keep weapons. Then when a horrible shooting happens the same people say the guy was crazy. Yes the guy was crazy and people were trying to make sure that crazy person didn't harm themselves or someone else yet you gun nuts made sure that crazy person gets and keeps that weapon.

Anyone who won't enforce the law shouldn't be in that job.

Progressives Should not make the decisions... They are a bunch of fucking retards

 

[daveman]

...It's always funny when you leftist morons insist the military would support your totalitarianism. Not gonna happen. You can just forget about that little Brownshirt wet dream.

There is nothing "American" about rebelling against lawful authority.

There is nothing "American" about sedition.

There is nothing "American" about violence against elected civilian officials because you don't like a law.

Members of the United States Armed Forces are sworn to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign AND domestic.

The only "brownshirts" around here are those advocating to send armed force against elected officials.

Punk.

But you sending armed forces against civilians to enforce your totalitarianism isn't?

Eat shit, fascist.

Sit down, little boy, and mind your manners.

I see you have yet to come to terms with your utter impotence. There's not little blue pill that can give you the power of your fascist fantasies, Skippy.

Meanwhile, eat shit, fascist.

 

[daveman]

...This law is a side step around due process. And why should a person have to incur the expense of a mental health examination in order to prove anything? If the court wants to order a mental health evaluation then the court should foot the bill to prove that the state has the authority to suspend a citizen's rights. THAT is due process

Safety first, Constitutionality second... a practical necessity... it's the way the world works.

At the start of the Civil War, Lincoln suspended habeus corpus in the interests of public safety.

The President decided that the threat outweighed the Constitutional Right being set aside temporarily.​

At the start of WWII, Roosevelt incarcerated scores of thousands of Japanese-Americans in the interests of public safety.

The President decided that the threat outweighed the Constitutional Right being set aside temporarily.​

In Colorado, the State temporarily impounds firearms of suspected mental illness victims in the interests of public safety.

The State Legislature decided that the threat outweighed the Constitutional Right being set aside temporarily.​

When constitutionality and safety are dramatically juxtaposed, safety almost always wins.

Peoples' lives are more important than allowing a mentally unbalanced individual to continue to possess firearms.

Will it be abused from time to time and will the law 'get it wrong' from time to time? Yep.

But for every one it gets wrong, it will get a hundred right, and a lot of folks will live, who might not have otherwise.

And that is the single most important thing, not the feelings of knuckle-dragging NRA bumper-sticker echo-chambers.

This legislation merely accelerates due process on an emergency basis, vetted by a law-judge, based upon testimony.

------------

I agree, however, that the State should foot the bill for subsequent mental health examinations to affirm or dismiss the impound.

Raise your hand if you think gun control is a good idea.

View attachment 256056

What are you... like... ten years old, child?

Nope. Just well-acquainted with leftist totalitarianism.

And you don't get to do that in America. We don't want your fascism. Tyrants all throughout history have disarmed their subjects.

The military will not side with you. They will turn against you. That means you'll have to un-ass the couch and (try) to disarm people yourself.

 

[JusticeHammer]

GOP dupes have lost respect for our law enforcement and FBI and CIA, but for all the wrong imaginary brainwashed reasons. There is no conspiracy against Trump or Republicans. Or any other conspiracy for that matter, except the right-wing propaganda 1.

Still as stupid as always.

the entire Republican Party is now full of conspiracy not jobs who believe our lawn Forest meant sister my protecting Hillary Obama's learner holder the CIA the FBI etcetera etcetera. Pure craziness... The law enforcement and journalists of the entire world think you are nuts.... Only bought off ridiculous pundits agree with you, everybody you listen to on your side is lying or brainwashed...

Wrong again dickwad. Your side proves how stupid they are all the time.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

As more gun legislation is passed......more & more law enforcement are refusing to uphold it. Colorado wasn't the first state to have to deal with this.

The law that you ultra rightwingers are talking about is the Red Flag law. Let me attempt to dumb it down to you.

If a person is thought to be a danger to him/herself or others and has guns, a family member or a law enforcement can take it in front of a Judge to determine if that person should have those guns in their possession of not. The Judge cannot arbitrarily make a decision at that point. The Person in question has to be afforded the option of a Mental Health test by a Mental Health Professional to determine if a danger does, in fact exist. If none exists then the weapons stay. IF it does exist, the Judge can order the guns to be temporarily removed until the condition passes which will have another court date and mental health exam. Now the tricky part. The Guns can be voluntarily turned over to either the Authorities or even a Family Member or a friend and satisfy the court order.

In Delta County, in the Western Slop of Colorado, the New Sheriff was elected. One of his (about his only one) campaign promises was that he would not enforce that law if passed. He was elected. Now it's passed. He finds out that the State Police will enforce it, the AG will enforce it, the Governor will enforce it and any Sheriff that doesn't will end up with some Jail time fast, have a felony and a Felon cannot serve as a Sheriff. Guess what, he now says he will adhere to the law. You know, exactly what his oath of office says he should.

If you have trouble with this law, chances are, you are either misinformed or wouldn't pass the mental exam and have to temporarily surrender your firearms. Hopefully, there is at least one sane person in your family that could care for your firearms.

As I had said "As more gun legislation is passed..." I wasn't being specific about which gun law as there are many different laws in each state across the country. And as you read the excerpt from one article...….it has nothing to do with Red Flags. Dumbass

13 Wash. Sheriffs Refuse to Enforce New Gun Control Law


The law, which passed with nearly 60 percent of the vote last November, makes it illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to buy a semi-automatic rifle and imposes a mandatory 10-day waiting period for purchases, in addition to requiring more-thorough background checks for anyone attempting to purchase those particular firearms, the news outlet reported.

Since you seem to believe that you can't discuss the OPs ideas and you are abusive then you have absolutely nothing I care to hear. Have a nice day, prick.

Actually make that prick-ette. Thank you very much.....


And how does including more gun legislation and law enforcements refusal to enforce those laws than offered in the OP...…….not being on topic with the OP???

I live in Washington state where new gun laws are added to the books on a daily basis (or so it seems) and we also have that "Red Flag' law. In fact, it was reported in this state before it was in Colorado about the sheriffs that refuse to enforce it. IOW......I AM discussing the OP's thread topic.

 

[Blues Man]

Controversial Colorado gun bill becomes law, 11 sheriffs willing to choose jail over enforcement - CNN

Good for those Sheriff's! Its unconstitutional.

Sad, Sheriff’s refusing to do their jobs. They don’t make laws, they enforce them.

What is sad is libtards thinking they are smart. Stupid law signed by a stupid cimmie gov.

They are trying to protect people. These sheriffs should follow and do their jobs. If its not constitutional, that's a job for judges.

So you're just fine with them disregarding people's rights because they are trying to protect people?

So then an armed swat team can break down your door and search you r person and your home even if they don't have a warrant if they are trying to protect people?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Controversial Colorado gun bill becomes law, 11 sheriffs willing to choose jail over enforcement - CNN

Good for those Sheriff's! Its unconstitutional.

Sad, Sheriff’s refusing to do their jobs. They don’t make laws, they enforce them.

What is sad is libtards thinking they are smart. Stupid law signed by a stupid cimmie gov.

They are trying to protect people. These sheriffs should follow and do their jobs. If its not constitutional, that's a job for judges.

So you're just fine with them disregarding people's rights because they are trying to protect people?

So then an armed swat team can break down your door and search you r person and your home even if they don't have a warrant if they are trying to protect people?

Warrant signed, sealed and delivered by a court. That warrant you say that wouldn't exist would have to exist. Now, go peddle your hysteria someplace else. We ain't buying it. The only thing we are covering is, is the persons due process protected. Not your silly "Let's ding the Dems" crap.

 

[martybegan]

As more gun legislation is passed......more & more law enforcement are refusing to uphold it. Colorado wasn't the first state to have to deal with this.

The law that you ultra rightwingers are talking about is the Red Flag law. Let me attempt to dumb it down to you.

If a person is thought to be a danger to him/herself or others and has guns, a family member or a law enforcement can take it in front of a Judge to determine if that person should have those guns in their possession of not. The Judge cannot arbitrarily make a decision at that point. The Person in question has to be afforded the option of a Mental Health test by a Mental Health Professional to determine if a danger does, in fact exist. If none exists then the weapons stay. IF it does exist, the Judge can order the guns to be temporarily removed until the condition passes which will have another court date and mental health exam. Now the tricky part. The Guns can be voluntarily turned over to either the Authorities or even a Family Member or a friend and satisfy the court order.

In Delta County, in the Western Slop of Colorado, the New Sheriff was elected. One of his (about his only one) campaign promises was that he would not enforce that law if passed. He was elected. Now it's passed. He finds out that the State Police will enforce it, the AG will enforce it, the Governor will enforce it and any Sheriff that doesn't will end up with some Jail time fast, have a felony and a Felon cannot serve as a Sheriff. Guess what, he now says he will adhere to the law. You know, exactly what his oath of office says he should.

If you have trouble with this law, chances are, you are either misinformed or wouldn't pass the mental exam and have to temporarily surrender your firearms. Hopefully, there is at least one sane person in your family that could care for your firearms.

You're an idiot.

But I get to keep my guns. If you lived here, you might not be so lucky. We would have to see.

Unless you find a judge with an agenda, then you get to wait months for any appeals process to go forward.

 

[Brain357]

Controversial Colorado gun bill becomes law, 11 sheriffs willing to choose jail over enforcement - CNN

Good for those Sheriff's! Its unconstitutional.

Sad, Sheriff’s refusing to do their jobs. They don’t make laws, they enforce them.

What is sad is libtards thinking they are smart. Stupid law signed by a stupid cimmie gov.

They are trying to protect people. These sheriffs should follow and do their jobs. If its not constitutional, that's a job for judges.

So you're just fine with them disregarding people's rights because they are trying to protect people?

So then an armed swat team can break down your door and search you r person and your home even if they don't have a warrant if they are trying to protect people?

If that’s the law. I’m very lawful.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

As more gun legislation is passed......more & more law enforcement are refusing to uphold it. Colorado wasn't the first state to have to deal with this.

The law that you ultra rightwingers are talking about is the Red Flag law. Let me attempt to dumb it down to you.

If a person is thought to be a danger to him/herself or others and has guns, a family member or a law enforcement can take it in front of a Judge to determine if that person should have those guns in their possession of not. The Judge cannot arbitrarily make a decision at that point. The Person in question has to be afforded the option of a Mental Health test by a Mental Health Professional to determine if a danger does, in fact exist. If none exists then the weapons stay. IF it does exist, the Judge can order the guns to be temporarily removed until the condition passes which will have another court date and mental health exam. Now the tricky part. The Guns can be voluntarily turned over to either the Authorities or even a Family Member or a friend and satisfy the court order.

In Delta County, in the Western Slop of Colorado, the New Sheriff was elected. One of his (about his only one) campaign promises was that he would not enforce that law if passed. He was elected. Now it's passed. He finds out that the State Police will enforce it, the AG will enforce it, the Governor will enforce it and any Sheriff that doesn't will end up with some Jail time fast, have a felony and a Felon cannot serve as a Sheriff. Guess what, he now says he will adhere to the law. You know, exactly what his oath of office says he should.

If you have trouble with this law, chances are, you are either misinformed or wouldn't pass the mental exam and have to temporarily surrender your firearms. Hopefully, there is at least one sane person in your family that could care for your firearms.

You're an idiot.

But I get to keep my guns. If you lived here, you might not be so lucky. We would have to see.

Unless you find a judge with an agenda, then you get to wait months for any appeals process to go forward.

If you find a judge with an agenda, you could get life for just crossing the street. You really don't have a point here. Yes, hire Guliani where he can get your Life in Prison for a Parking Ticket.

 

[martybegan]

As more gun legislation is passed......more & more law enforcement are refusing to uphold it. Colorado wasn't the first state to have to deal with this.

The law that you ultra rightwingers are talking about is the Red Flag law. Let me attempt to dumb it down to you.

If a person is thought to be a danger to him/herself or others and has guns, a family member or a law enforcement can take it in front of a Judge to determine if that person should have those guns in their possession of not. The Judge cannot arbitrarily make a decision at that point. The Person in question has to be afforded the option of a Mental Health test by a Mental Health Professional to determine if a danger does, in fact exist. If none exists then the weapons stay. IF it does exist, the Judge can order the guns to be temporarily removed until the condition passes which will have another court date and mental health exam. Now the tricky part. The Guns can be voluntarily turned over to either the Authorities or even a Family Member or a friend and satisfy the court order.

In Delta County, in the Western Slop of Colorado, the New Sheriff was elected. One of his (about his only one) campaign promises was that he would not enforce that law if passed. He was elected. Now it's passed. He finds out that the State Police will enforce it, the AG will enforce it, the Governor will enforce it and any Sheriff that doesn't will end up with some Jail time fast, have a felony and a Felon cannot serve as a Sheriff. Guess what, he now says he will adhere to the law. You know, exactly what his oath of office says he should.

If you have trouble with this law, chances are, you are either misinformed or wouldn't pass the mental exam and have to temporarily surrender your firearms. Hopefully, there is at least one sane person in your family that could care for your firearms.

You're an idiot.

But I get to keep my guns. If you lived here, you might not be so lucky. We would have to see.

Unless you find a judge with an agenda, then you get to wait months for any appeals process to go forward.

If you find a judge with an agenda, you could get life for just crossing the street. You really don't have a point here. Yes, hire Guliani where he can get your Life in Prison for a Parking Ticket.

You just ignore the point I am making because you are a pansy prog dick sucking quisling.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The law that you ultra rightwingers are talking about is the Red Flag law. Let me attempt to dumb it down to you.

If a person is thought to be a danger to him/herself or others and has guns, a family member or a law enforcement can take it in front of a Judge to determine if that person should have those guns in their possession of not. The Judge cannot arbitrarily make a decision at that point. The Person in question has to be afforded the option of a Mental Health test by a Mental Health Professional to determine if a danger does, in fact exist. If none exists then the weapons stay. IF it does exist, the Judge can order the guns to be temporarily removed until the condition passes which will have another court date and mental health exam. Now the tricky part. The Guns can be voluntarily turned over to either the Authorities or even a Family Member or a friend and satisfy the court order.

In Delta County, in the Western Slop of Colorado, the New Sheriff was elected. One of his (about his only one) campaign promises was that he would not enforce that law if passed. He was elected. Now it's passed. He finds out that the State Police will enforce it, the AG will enforce it, the Governor will enforce it and any Sheriff that doesn't will end up with some Jail time fast, have a felony and a Felon cannot serve as a Sheriff. Guess what, he now says he will adhere to the law. You know, exactly what his oath of office says he should.

If you have trouble with this law, chances are, you are either misinformed or wouldn't pass the mental exam and have to temporarily surrender your firearms. Hopefully, there is at least one sane person in your family that could care for your firearms.

You're an idiot.

But I get to keep my guns. If you lived here, you might not be so lucky. We would have to see.

Unless you find a judge with an agenda, then you get to wait months for any appeals process to go forward.

If you find a judge with an agenda, you could get life for just crossing the street. You really don't have a point here. Yes, hire Guliani where he can get your Life in Prison for a Parking Ticket.

You just ignore the point I am making because you are a pansy prog dick sucking quisling.

The point you are making is, no matter how bad it can be your twisted imagination will scream at the top of your lungs just how bad it can actually be even though it actually won't be. Damn, Sam, that scare tactic only works on small children and you strumpets. We be adults.

 

[bendog]

Controversial Colorado gun bill becomes law, 11 sheriffs willing to choose jail over enforcement - CNN

Good for those Sheriff's! Its unconstitutional.

No other states even dream of doing something so blatently unconstitutional.