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Anders Behring Breivik (Norwegian pronunciation: ['andəʂ 'beːɾiŋ 'bɾæɪʋiːk][6]; born 13 February 1979)[1] is a Norwegian accused mass murderer,[7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14] terrorist and the confessed perpetrator[15][16] of the 2011 attacks in Norway. On 22 July 2011, Breivik bombed the government buildings in Oslo, which resulted in eight deaths. He then carried out a mass shooting at a camp of the Workers' Youth League (AUF) of the Labour Party on the island of Utøya where he killed 69 people, mostly teenagers.[17][18][19]
Maybe not. Then he most likely would have picked a softer target.
They always do.
They don't like it when people shoot back.
The fundamental problem with gun control is its reliance of a presumption of guilt, that if one wishes to own a firearm, hes some sort of a potential danger or threat.
Consequently, well subject a potential gun owner to background checks, waiting periods, and perhaps compel him to obtain some sort of license and be subject to training before allowing him to take possession of his firearm.
Granted, the individual right to own a handgun is not a fundamental right such as speech, but this sort of a preemption of a right is Constitutionally troubling nonetheless, as it can be argued a right delayed is a right denied.
Indeed, a person planning on giving a speech isnt subject to a background check to make sure he isnt going to yell Fire! in a crowded theater; he isnt required to wait a given period of time before giving his speech; and he isnt required to get a license to give a speech, or take speech lessons as a condition of giving his speech.
Ultimately gun control laws are followed only by those who are going to obey the law in any event, and in order to be Constitutionally valid, must not manifest an undue burden on the exercising ones Second Amendment rights.
As is the case with many troubling issues which face our Nation, there is no quick fix to the problem of gun violence, and greater restrictions on the acquisition of firearms is clearly no solution.
Without Gun ownership in the hands of citizens you don't have freedom of speech., that's been proven many times.The fundamental problem with gun control is its reliance of a presumption of guilt, that if one wishes to own a firearm, hes some sort of a potential danger or threat.
Consequently, well subject a potential gun owner to background checks, waiting periods, and perhaps compel him to obtain some sort of license and be subject to training before allowing him to take possession of his firearm.
Granted, the individual right to own a handgun is not a fundamental right such as speech, but this sort of a preemption of a right is Constitutionally troubling nonetheless, as it can be argued a right delayed is a right denied.
Indeed, a person planning on giving a speech isnt subject to a background check to make sure he isnt going to yell Fire! in a crowded theater; he isnt required to wait a given period of time before giving his speech; and he isnt required to get a license to give a speech, or take speech lessons as a condition of giving his speech.
Ultimately gun control laws are followed only by those who are going to obey the law in any event, and in order to be Constitutionally valid, must not manifest an undue burden on the exercising ones Second Amendment rights.
As is the case with many troubling issues which face our Nation, there is no quick fix to the problem of gun violence, and greater restrictions on the acquisition of firearms is clearly no solution.
I'd have to disagree, mostly because I don't think Gun Ownership is up there with free speech.
The Second Amendment calls for a "Well-regulated militia" as well as "the right to bear arms". Well regulated means, "You don't give guns to crazy people".
I would compare it more with being given the license to a car. They make sure you can operate a car safely, that you've taken all the proper precautions, and so on.
Comparing the UK with the U.S. you will find somethings shocking that the UK leads Ameica in
NationMaster - Crime stats: United Kingdom vs United States
Without Gun ownership in the hands of citizens you don't have freedom of speech., that's been proven many times.
Without Gun ownership in the hands of citizens you don't have freedom of speech., that's been proven many times.
Where? When? don't be daft.
Most countries have restrictive gun laws and have more freedom of speech than we do.
I've watched British Television and they say and show things there they'd never show on American TV.
So only liberals are 'authentic' victims? Got it. It's just different.Why do you guys keep trying to make Zimmerman into a hero?
Because Zimmerman is representative of the conservative as a victim mentality.
Conservatives see Zimmerman as unjustly accused of being a racist solely because Martin was black, racism conservatives perceive as a contrivance of the left.
It plays to the conservative myth of the liberal bias medias portrayal of Zimmerman as a racist in an effort to advance the liberal agenda.
It plays to the conservative hatred of black pundits such as Al Sharpton making accusations of racism to advance their political agenda.
It plays to the conservative perception of a threat to gun rights and the right to defend oneself, where armed citizens might refrain from using a firearm for fear of being accused of being a racist or arrested after defending oneself.
Consequently to conservatives, Zimmerman is their hero, their Everyman subject to an unfair accusation of racism, racism conservatives simply believe doesnt exist.
Without Gun ownership in the hands of citizens you don't have freedom of speech., that's been proven many times.
Where? When? don't be daft.
Most countries have restrictive gun laws and have more freedom of speech than we do.
I've watched British Television and they say and show things there they'd never show on American TV.
And Russia, China Iran North Korea Cuba? How are they on freedom of speech?
Where? When? don't be daft.
Most countries have restrictive gun laws and have more freedom of speech than we do.
I've watched British Television and they say and show things there they'd never show on American TV.
And Russia, China Iran North Korea Cuba? How are they on freedom of speech?
NOne of which had anything to do with gun control.
Those countries, (with the exception of North Korea) the problem was, too many people had guns, and decided to use them to settle policy differences. China had been in an off and on series of civil wars since 1910.
The problem wasn't a lack of guns, it was the wrong side with guns won.
Why do you guys keep trying to make Zimmerman into a hero?
Because Zimmerman is representative of the conservative as a victim mentality.
Conservatives see Zimmerman as unjustly accused of being a racist solely because Martin was black, racism conservatives perceive as a contrivance of the left.
It plays to the conservative myth of the liberal bias medias portrayal of Zimmerman as a racist in an effort to advance the liberal agenda.
It plays to the conservative hatred of black pundits such as Al Sharpton making accusations of racism to advance their political agenda.
It plays to the conservative perception of a threat to gun rights and the right to defend oneself, where armed citizens might refrain from using a firearm for fear of being accused of being a racist or arrested after defending oneself.
Consequently to conservatives, Zimmerman is their hero, their Everyman subject to an unfair accusation of racism, racism conservatives simply believe doesnt exist.
The fundamental problem with gun control is its reliance of a presumption of guilt, that if one wishes to own a firearm, hes some sort of a potential danger or threat.
Consequently, well subject a potential gun owner to background checks, waiting periods, and perhaps compel him to obtain some sort of license and be subject to training before allowing him to take possession of his firearm.
Granted, the individual right to own a handgun is not a fundamental right such as speech, but this sort of a preemption of a right is Constitutionally troubling nonetheless, as it can be argued a right delayed is a right denied.
Indeed, a person planning on giving a speech isnt subject to a background check to make sure he isnt going to yell Fire! in a crowded theater; he isnt required to wait a given period of time before giving his speech; and he isnt required to get a license to give a speech, or take speech lessons as a condition of giving his speech.
Ultimately gun control laws are followed only by those who are going to obey the law in any event, and in order to be Constitutionally valid, must not manifest an undue burden on the exercising ones Second Amendment rights.
As is the case with many troubling issues which face our Nation, there is no quick fix to the problem of gun violence, and greater restrictions on the acquisition of firearms is clearly no solution.
The man was innocent till the media convicted him and stole his legal rights away.Why do you guys keep trying to make Zimmerman into a hero?
Because Zimmerman is representative of the conservative as a victim mentality.
Conservatives see Zimmerman as unjustly accused of being a racist solely because Martin was black, racism conservatives perceive as a contrivance of the left.
It plays to the conservative myth of the liberal bias medias portrayal of Zimmerman as a racist in an effort to advance the liberal agenda.
It plays to the conservative hatred of black pundits such as Al Sharpton making accusations of racism to advance their political agenda.
It plays to the conservative perception of a threat to gun rights and the right to defend oneself, where armed citizens might refrain from using a firearm for fear of being accused of being a racist or arrested after defending oneself.
Consequently to conservatives, Zimmerman is their hero, their Everyman subject to an unfair accusation of racism, racism conservatives simply believe doesnt exist.
Pure Garbage. The man was going to walk until the left tried him by media.
What it shows is what low lifes the left truly is.
And Russia, China Iran North Korea Cuba? How are they on freedom of speech?
NOne of which had anything to do with gun control.
Those countries, (with the exception of North Korea) the problem was, too many people had guns, and decided to use them to settle policy differences. China had been in an off and on series of civil wars since 1910.
The problem wasn't a lack of guns, it was the wrong side with guns won.
OMG what a fucking idiot you have shown yourself to be.
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Pure Garbage. The man was going to walk until the left tried him by media.
What it shows is what low lifes the left truly is.
I have no need to jump off a 1000 foot building to know that I will die at the bottom. Gun control is the very same thing. It does not need to be attempted to know it will not work.
That's what I love about gun control....people think criminals will follow the law....LOLOLOLOLOL
Well, no, the problem with gun control is, we've never really tried it. A few cities have, but kind of meaningless to have gun control in Chicago when you can set up a gun shop in Cicero IL which is right next door.
Other countries have tried meaningful gun control, and it works just fine.
Let's look, shall we? Number of murders with firearms in advanced countries.
Murders with firearms statistics - countries compared - NationMaster Crime
# 4 United States: 9,369
# 11 Germany: 269
# 14 Canada: 144
# 28 Japan: 47
= 39 United Kingdom: 14
I have no need to jump off a 1000 foot building to know that I will die at the bottom. Gun control is the very same thing. It does not need to be attempted to know it will not work.That's what I love about gun control....people think criminals will follow the law....LOLOLOLOLOL
Well, no, the problem with gun control is, we've never really tried it. A few cities have, but kind of meaningless to have gun control in Chicago when you can set up a gun shop in Cicero IL which is right next door.
Other countries have tried meaningful gun control, and it works just fine.
Let's look, shall we? Number of murders with firearms in advanced countries.
Murders with firearms statistics - countries compared - NationMaster Crime
# 4 United States: 9,369
# 11 Germany: 269
# 14 Canada: 144
# 28 Japan: 47
= 39 United Kingdom: 14
Where is your statistic for the number of crimes and lives saved by guns? There are nearly 2.5 million defensive gun defenses that occur in this country every year.
Yet you would follow your agenda to disarm people with out of context statistics is rather disgusting.
Stop living in fear.
I have no need to jump off a 1000 foot building to know that I will die at the bottom. Gun control is the very same thing. It does not need to be attempted to know it will not work.Well, no, the problem with gun control is, we've never really tried it. A few cities have, but kind of meaningless to have gun control in Chicago when you can set up a gun shop in Cicero IL which is right next door.
Other countries have tried meaningful gun control, and it works just fine.
Let's look, shall we? Number of murders with firearms in advanced countries.
Murders with firearms statistics - countries compared - NationMaster Crime
# 4 United States: 9,369
# 11 Germany: 269
# 14 Canada: 144
# 28 Japan: 47
= 39 United Kingdom: 14
Where is your statistic for the number of crimes and lives saved by guns? There are nearly 2.5 million defensive gun defenses that occur in this country every year.
Yet you would follow your agenda to disarm people with out of context statistics is rather disgusting.
Stop living in fear.
Guy, I was refuting the notion that gun control never works, when in fact, it works just fine in the rest of the world.
For instance, in Germany, they've had gun control since 1945, when Ike decided to disarm the Germans. (Contrary to NRA propaganda, Hitler wasn't big on gun control.)
Not really advocating it. Really, with over 200 million privately owned handguns out there, it would be hard to do.
That said, we can at least start stepping back from the breach. A law that keeps people like Loughner and Holmes from getting guns at the Bass Pro Shoppe would be a start.
I would treat guns like cars- something that needs to be licensed, regulated and kept out of the wrong hands.
[That said, we can at least start stepping back from the breach. A law that keeps people like Loughner and Holmes from getting guns at the Bass Pro Shoppe would be a start.
I have no need to jump off a 1000 foot building to know that I will die at the bottom. Gun control is the very same thing. It does not need to be attempted to know it will not work.Well, no, the problem with gun control is, we've never really tried it. A few cities have, but kind of meaningless to have gun control in Chicago when you can set up a gun shop in Cicero IL which is right next door.
Other countries have tried meaningful gun control, and it works just fine.
Let's look, shall we? Number of murders with firearms in advanced countries.
Murders with firearms statistics - countries compared - NationMaster Crime
# 4 United States: 9,369
# 11 Germany: 269
# 14 Canada: 144
# 28 Japan: 47
= 39 United Kingdom: 14
Where is your statistic for the number of crimes and lives saved by guns? There are nearly 2.5 million defensive gun defenses that occur in this country every year.
Yet you would follow your agenda to disarm people with out of context statistics is rather disgusting.
Stop living in fear.
Guy, I was refuting the notion that gun control never works, when in fact, it works just fine in the rest of the world.
For instance, in Germany, they've had gun control since 1945, when Ike decided to disarm the Germans. (Contrary to NRA propaganda, Hitler wasn't big on gun control.)
Not really advocating it. Really, with over 200 million privately owned handguns out there, it would be hard to do.
That said, we can at least start stepping back from the breach. A law that keeps people like Loughner and Holmes from getting guns at the Bass Pro Shoppe would be a start.
I would treat guns like cars- something that needs to be licensed, regulated and kept out of the wrong hands.
