Gun free zone

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    If life was like a video everything would be OK

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFUXTx0nVRc&feature=g-high-lik]Is It so.. Gun Free Zone....mp4 - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Seems legit.
     
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    If ONE U.S. Marine had been sitting in that theater with a weapon things probably would have turned out differently!
     
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    That's what I love about gun control....people think criminals will follow the law....LOLOLOLOLOL
     
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    Um, yeah, probably you'd have had more fatalities, but Holmes probably wouldn't have been one of them.

    The guy had body armor on. He spent a long time thinking about what he planned to do.

    Now, give the marines credit, they are very good at what they do, but the fact is, even in war zones they make mistakes. A crowded room with lots of smoke and panicking people and bullets flying everywhere...

    This shows how much the NRA has really poisoned this discussion when you see a case where someone having a gun was a bad thing, absolutely, and the answer is, "Well, we just need more guns in that situation."

    Crazy.
     
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    When we have an organization like the NRA advocating for people to carry a concealed weopon in a bar, you realize how far out that organization has become. The putting of guns on a pedestal in this nation has gone beyond insanity.
     
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    Well, no, the problem with gun control is, we've never really tried it. A few cities have, but kind of meaningless to have gun control in Chicago when you can set up a gun shop in Cicero IL which is right next door.

    Other countries have tried meaningful gun control, and it works just fine.

    Let's look, shall we? Number of murders with firearms in advanced countries.

    Murders with firearms statistics - countries compared - NationMaster Crime

    # 4 United States: 9,369
    # 11 Germany: 269
    # 14 Canada: 144
    # 28 Japan: 47
    = 39 United Kingdom: 14
     
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    Hey Joe. What about accidental gun deaths. Who leads the world in kids getting killed by guns?
    Who leads the world in murder by gun? Who leads the world in armed citizens? Who leads the world in the amount of money spent on guns and ammo by its citizens.

    Who says America isn't a world leader still?
     
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    I think the thing is, the gun has always been a part of our culture.

    I don't think we should have gun control on the level the UK has. The UK is a different culture, one we split from hundreds of years ago, and that's fine. I have no problem with private gun ownership if there is responsibility attached to it. Which does not mean, "the person everyone knew was crazy can go down to the Bass Pro Shop and buy a 100 bullet drum clip!"

    But when you have a shooting incident, and instead of sitting down and having a rational discussion like 'How do we prevent the next James Holmes from being able to assemble an arsenal?" we get a discussion like "Wouldn't it have been nice if people in the theatre were shooting back?" And people say this with an absolute straight face.
     
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    Joe you never mention this
    Gun violence > Homicides > Overall homicide rate > per 100,000 pop. (most recent) by country
    Gun Violence homicides statistics - countries compared - Nation Master
     

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