Gun control in Australia, 13 year old girl shot in drive by shooting....

[cnm]

Australia actually has high rates of guns, it's rated near the 20th in gun ownership rates, out of 175 listed.

But access to handguns and military style semi automatic rifles is severely restricted.

 

[cnm]

About 70% of murder in the U.S.A is committed by Blacks / Hispanics.

Are you deliberately conflating murder and firearm homicides or is it just by accident?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Australia actually has high rates of guns, it's rated near the 20th in gun ownership rates, out of 175 listed.

But access to handguns and military style semi automatic rifles is severely restricted.

Austria's murder rate is lower than Australia's.

Austria also has a lot more guns..

Why, why, why?

 

[cnm]

About 70% of murder in the U.S.A is committed by Blacks / Hispanics.

Why are you ignoring the rates of shootings in Australia compared with those in the US?

 

[cnm]

Austria's murder rate is lower than Australia's.

Austria also has a lot more guns..

Why are you conflating murder with firearm homicides?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

About 70% of murder in the U.S.A is committed by Blacks / Hispanics.

Why are you ignoring the rates of shootings in Australia compared with those in the US?

The U.S.A is filled with far more trashy people than Australia too.

Blacks, Hispanics, and White Colonials all seem to have much higher murder rates.

Unfortunately for the U.S.A, this has been the First World country with the most of such types.

Yes, Canadian regions with more White Colonials also have more murder too, like the Western parts of Canada.

Yes, Canadian regions with more non-White Native Americans also have more murder too, like Nunavut.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Austria's murder rate is lower than Australia's.

Austria also has a lot more guns..

Why are you conflating murder with firearm homicides?

Norway, Austria, Switzerland, and Sweden are some countries with higher gun ownership rates than Australia, and lower murder rates.

 

[cnm]

Why are you conflating murder with firearm homicides?

 

[cnm]

The U.S.A is filled with far more trashy people than Australia too.

You would know, I'm sure.

 

[2aguy]

Australia actually has high rates of guns, it's rated near the 20th in gun ownership rates, out of 175 listed.

But access to handguns and military style semi automatic rifles is severely restricted.

Not for criminals...Please notice that I highlighted the part that makes your post innaccurate......

Gun city: Young, dumb and armed

The notion that a military-grade weapon could be in the hands of local criminals is shocking, but police have already seized at least five machine guns and assault rifles in the past 18 months. The AK-47 was not among them.

Only a fortnight ago, law enforcement authorities announced they were hunting another seven assault rifles recently smuggled into the country. Weapons from the shipment have been used in armed robberies and drive-by shootings.

These are just a handful of the thousands of illicit guns fuelling a wave of violent crime in the world’s most liveable city.

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Despite Australia’s strict gun control regime, criminals are now better armed than at any time since then-Prime Minister John Howard introduced a nationwide firearm buyback scheme in response to the 1996 Port Arthur massacre.

Shootings have become almost a weekly occurrence, with more than 125 people, mostly young men, wounded in the past five year

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While the body count was higher during Melbourne’s ‘Underbelly War’ (1999-2005), more people have been seriously maimed in the recent spate of shootings and reprisals.

Crimes associated with firearm possession have also more than doubled, driven by the easy availability of handguns, semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and, increasingly, machine guns, that are smuggled into the country or stolen from licensed owners.

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These weapons have been used in dozens of recent drive-by shootings of homes and businesses, as well as targeted and random attacks in parks, shopping centres and roads.

“They’re young, dumb and armed,” said one former underworld associate, who survived a shooting attempt in the western suburbs several years ago.

“It used to be that if you were involved in something bad you might have to worry about [being shot]. Now people get shot over nothing - unprovoked.”

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Gun crime soars
In this series, Fairfax Media looks at Melbourne’s gun problem and the new breed of criminals behind the escalating violence.

The investigation has found:

• There have been at least 99 shootings in the past 20 months - more than one incident a week since January 2015
• Known criminals were caught with firearms 755 times last year, compared to 143 times in 2011
• The epicentre of the problem is a triangle between Coolaroo, Campbellfield and Glenroy in the north-west, with Cranbourne, Narre Warren and Dandenong in the south-east close behind
• Criminals are using gunshot wounds to the arms and legs as warnings to pay debts
• Assault rifles and handguns are being smuggled into Australia via shipments of electronics and metal parts

In response to the violence, it can be revealed the state government is planning to introduce new criminal offences for drive-by shootings, manufacturing of firearms with new technologies such as 3D printers, and more police powers to keep weapons out of the hands of known criminals.
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The second part of the series....
Gun city: Gunslingers of the North West


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'Thousands' of illegal guns tipped to be handed over in firearms amnesty

Asked roughly how many he expected to be handed in, Mr Keenan said: "Look I certainly think the number will be in the thousands."

The Australian Crime Commission estimated in 2012 there were at least 250,000 illegal guns in Australia. But a Senate report noted last year it was impossible to estimate how many illicit weapons are out there.

But....military weapons?

And despite Australia's strict border controls, the smuggling of high-powered military-style firearms is also a growing problem.

 

[2aguy]

About 70% of murder in the U.S.A is committed by Blacks / Hispanics.

Why are you ignoring the rates of shootings in Australia compared with those in the US?

They are increasing in Australia and going down in the U.S.......what is your point?

I highlighted the part that shows you don't know what you are talking about...

Australia....

Australia’s Gun 'Buyback' Created a Violent Firearms Black Market. Why Should the U.S. Do the Same?

Just days ago, Australia's Peter Dutton, Minister for Immigration and Border Protection, and Michael Keenan, Minister for Justice, held a joint press conference to announce "We don't tolerate gun smuggling in Australia and we know Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs are engaged in it. We have been keen to send the strongest possible message from Canberra that we're not going to tolerate people smuggling in guns or smuggling in gun parts. You'd appreciate that even one smuggled gun can do an enormous amount of damage."

When politicians announce that they don't tolerate something, it's a fair bet that the something is completely out of hand.

"Police admit they cannot eradicate a black market that is peddling illegal guns to criminals," the Adelaide Advertiser concededa few years ago. "Motorcycle gang members and convicted criminals barred from buying guns in South Australia have no difficulty obtaining illegal firearms - including fully automatic weapons."

More recently, the country's The New Daily gained access to "previously unpublished data for firearms offences" and reporteda surge in crime "including a massive 83 per cent increase in firearms offences in NSW between 2005/06 and 2014/15, and an even bigger jump in Victoria over the same period."

"Australians may be more at risk from gun crime than ever before with the country's underground market for firearms ballooning in the past decade," the report added. "[T]he national ban on semi-automatic weapons following the Port Arthur massacre had spawned criminal demand for handguns."

Much as the Mafia and other organized criminal outfits rose to power, wealth, and prominence by supplying illegal liquor during Prohibition in the United States, outlaw motorcycle gangs in Australia appear to be building international connections and making money by supplying guns to willing buyers.


The U.S.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...



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-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

It seems your theory doesn't hold water.

My theory about the high rate of juvenile shootings in the US compared to the rate of juvenile shootings in Australia?

Growing....as immigrant gangs take over more and more of the drug trade in Australia, their violent gun crime will escalate....

 

[2aguy]

Luckily the OP doesn't examine shootings in the US. He'd go batshit crazy in a week if he did that.

I examine gun issues on all topics....... you have to hide from the truth about gun crime in Australia......