Greece Is An Example of the Failures of Socialism

[Marxist]

Sell the jingoistic crap to the nations of Scandinavia, Canada, Great Britain and the like. They won't believe you either.

Those places are a fucking joke -- Except for Norway, and they have gazillions coming in from their North Sea Oil Rigs.

Otherwise, they got shit going on except for the fact Sweden is one of the MOST Business Friendly Countries on the Planet.

And Denmark has lower Corporate Tax Rates than does the United States.

In fact, they ALL are very business friendly.

And......They ALL have lower Corporate Tax Rates than we do.

And NONE of them tax repatriated Foreign Profits.

You have no clue what you're talking about. None. You're just parroting an idiotic talking point you heard somewhere.

Wanna get into the weeds? Bring it the fuck on.

Be specific. Don't talk out of your ass. Cite links, show your work.

You're a clueless fucking moron.

Yeah, have you seen what the government maintains over there? The massive social programs? Something America is afraid of.

 

[Marxist]

An entitlement state is socialism? Oh, let's also ignore the successful entitlement states, Nordic countries?

Then MOVE to one of them.....

Can't afford to leave my family.

Why is that? You leaching off of them?

No, my dad is on disability, my mother works as a secretary barely making enough for my younger siblings, I can't even afford to go to another country. I work so my parents don't lose everything, they're quite old now..

The op would love to see you on the street. They don't give a damn as you're not royality as in super rich.

Wouldn't surprise me

 

[Marxist]

capitalism can sustain itself? Growing wealth gap, waste of resources, unrest in the lower classes...

Whats your alternative, bitch?

To cry like a little girl?

Totalitarian socialism?

Totalitarian National Socialism?

Totalitarian communism?

Anarchy?

A free-for-all fuckfest?

What?

You can't have a Free People without a Free Market.

Explain how you can have a Free People while controlling the Markets with an Iron Fist?

It's impossible.

punk ass bitch. Grow up and get some education

A well regulated, fair capitalist country is technically social democracy= socialism as now defined. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC, hater dupes.

Greece has a corrupt oligarchy that doesn't pay their fair share- LIKE OURS, a legacy from the Nixon supported military dictatorship.

Not socialism though, collective ownership of production is needed.

 

[Meathead]

The Greeks collect about 1/3 of the taxes due. Their economy is rife with corruption. Bribes are considered part of doing business.

Blaming all their woes on Socialism is far too simplistic, even for American Conservatives.

The same Greeks that voted in successive socialist governments were the same Greek who were avoiding taxes. As Greeks often say, that which yours is ours, but that which is mine is mine.

This is why socialism is invariably failure. It really is that simple.

Does the same level of incompetent tax collection appear in other nations with socialist policies? Is Norway as corrupt? Is Sweden? Or is this a problem particular to the Greeks?

If that's the case, is Socialist policies to blame, or is it just good old fashioned corruption and incompetence?

Greece is not Norway nor Sweden. Those are countries with low populations an industrious population and natural resources which can provide welfare to their citizens if they choose. They are the exception.

Greece and other countries which demand the benefits of the few wealthy countries of Europe are doomed to failure. They simply cannot generate wealth.

They have to pay piper at the end of the day and simply do not have the money.

 

[Meathead]

capitalism can sustain itself? Growing wealth gap, waste of resources, unrest in the lower classes...

Whats your alternative, bitch?

To cry like a little girl?

Totalitarian socialism?

Totalitarian National Socialism?

Totalitarian communism?

Anarchy?

A free-for-all fuckfest?

What?

You can't have a Free People without a Free Market.

Explain how you can have a Free People while controlling the Markets with an Iron Fist?

It's impossible.

punk ass bitch. Grow up and get some education

A well regulated, fair capitalist country is technically social democracy= socialism as now defined. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC, hater dupes.

Greece has a corrupt oligarchy that doesn't pay their fair share- LIKE OURS, a legacy from the Nixon supported military dictatorship.

Not socialism though, collective ownership of production is needed.

Oh FFS, the industrial revolution is over!

 

[Marxist]

capitalism can sustain itself? Growing wealth gap, waste of resources, unrest in the lower classes...

Whats your alternative, bitch?

To cry like a little girl?

Totalitarian socialism?

Totalitarian National Socialism?

Totalitarian communism?

Anarchy?

A free-for-all fuckfest?

What?

You can't have a Free People without a Free Market.

Explain how you can have a Free People while controlling the Markets with an Iron Fist?

It's impossible.

punk ass bitch. Grow up and get some education

A well regulated, fair capitalist country is technically social democracy= socialism as now defined. ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC, hater dupes.

Greece has a corrupt oligarchy that doesn't pay their fair share- LIKE OURS, a legacy from the Nixon supported military dictatorship.

Not socialism though, collective ownership of production is needed.

Oh FFS, the industrial revolution is over!

The means of production are everywhere you knucklehead.

 

[francoHFW]

If only we can be more like France !!!!

For the people!

Damn straight. Too bad you know nothing bout France either. #1 Quality of life. Strong family farms and health, traditional good foods, #1health care, day care, intelligent military spending and foreign policy, cheap college, great roads and infrastructure, #1in tourism, plenty of rich people, hater dupe. And no I'm not moving there. I'm American and wish you would learn SOMETHING, ugly American hater dupe, and YOU CAN'T move there lol. They were right EVERY time your shyttehead GOPers wrecked the world, too. MORON!! lol

Franco stands for francophile. ie, there were 28 French ships keeping the Brit fleet away at Yorktown, and more French troops than American - and it's the French who are ungrateful. morons

 

[francoHFW]

Sorry, Marxist, collective ownership of production doesn't work. BUT certainly socialism does. DEMOCRACY, fair well regulated capitalism with a strong safety net... we need easy, immediate registration with a holiday on voting day.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The op is anti-civilization...Governments have been paving roads, funding science and educating their children for thousands of year. Your idea of private everything is the stupidest thing imaginable.

Actually this argument is.

The federal government has not paved many roads....local government does that. They do it by hiring local contractors.

I mean, can we become any more silly in these arguments ?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

If only we can be more like France !!!!

For the people!

Damn straight. Too bad you know nothing bout France either. #1 Quality of life. Strong family farms and health, traditional good foods, #1health care, day care, intelligent military spending and foreign policy, cheap college, great roads and infrastructure, #1in tourism, plenty of rich people, hater dupe. And no I'm not moving there. I'm American and wish you would learn SOMETHING, ugly American hater dupe, and YOU CAN'T move there lol. They were right EVERY time your shyttehead GOPers wrecked the world, too. MORON!! lol

Franco stands for francophile. ie, there were 28 French ships keeping the Brit fleet away at Yorktown, and more French troops than American - and it's the French who are ungrateful. morons

I'd vote to trade Martin Luther KIng day for a voting day.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

If only we can be more like France !!!!

For the people!

Damn straight. Too bad you know nothing bout France either. #1 Quality of life. Strong family farms and health, traditional good foods, #1health care, day care, intelligent military spending and foreign policy, cheap college, great roads and infrastructure, #1in tourism, plenty of rich people, hater dupe. And no I'm not moving there. I'm American and wish you would learn SOMETHING, ugly American hater dupe, and YOU CAN'T move there lol. They were right EVERY time your shyttehead GOPers wrecked the world, too. MORON!! lol

Franco stands for francophile. ie, there were 28 French ships keeping the Brit fleet away at Yorktown, and more French troops than American - and it's the French who are ungrateful. morons

And the NUANCE, CULTURE and SOPHISTICATION !!!
Viva Le revolucion !!!!!!!!

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Mandatory voting for every citizen 16 and older...

To be fair !!!! Lmfao

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Greeks collect about 1/3 of the taxes due. Their economy is rife with corruption. Bribes are considered part of doing business.

Blaming all their woes on Socialism is far too simplistic, even for American Conservatives.

Every time socialism fails, and it fails every time it's tried, you fucks come up with another excuse.

Every time.

Maybe that's why you're such incredible fucking losers.... IOW, stop making excuse, get to work and break the chain.

You come from a long history of losers? Break the chain. Give your kids a head start, give them a chance in this world.

socialism has failed every time it has been tried and it will ALWAYS fail. Always, always.

Usually with catastrophic effects.

You can thank Ronald Reagan for the Soviet Union falling without a catastrophic, near Planet Destroying event first.

Next time, we might not be so lucky.

And when it happens, you won't even know why it happened. You're that stupid. Animal dumb. Barely self aware.

Free Market Capitalism is the ONLY economic system that can work while maintaining a Free Society. Without it there can be no free society. Without a free society there can be only strife. Where there is strife, War follows. It's in our DNA

And War is harmful to living things.

You people fuck around and crush the spark of free market capitalism and your children will pay the price.....

Like you care

Socialism is succeeding all over the world, the isolated example of Greece notwithstanding.

 

[2aguy]

The Greeks collect about 1/3 of the taxes due. Their economy is rife with corruption. Bribes are considered part of doing business.

Blaming all their woes on Socialism is far too simplistic, even for American Conservatives.

that is what socialism creates.......tax avoidance because of confiscatory tax rates, corruption in order to get around the government workers who make you life miserable but you can do nothing about because they are protected by their unions....and bribes....talk to any politician....it explodes in a socialist country because those in control have more power over your life....

limiting government is the only way to keep a society free and prosperous......but the left will never care to learn that lesson.....

Oh wake up! Authoritarian and Conservative governments suffer under corruption, lax tax collections and bribery too! Don't white wash this! Sins flow through all forms of government.

Blaming all of Greece's woes on Socialism is naïve, irresponsible and simplistic.

Didn't say there wasn't corruption in other forms of government...but concentrating control of society in the hands of government makes the corruption worse and more pervasive...if you have to go to a government agent for every little thing you want to do...they have power over you and very little accountability......just the formula for corruption and bribes...

 

[2aguy]

Greece needs to Borrow amd Spend their way to a revovery !!!

You forgot....TAX, borrow and spend...and spend....and spend......

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Greeces 1% can bail them out !!!

 

[francoHFW]

The op is anti-civilization...Governments have been paving roads, funding science and educating their children for thousands of year. Your idea of private everything is the stupidest thing imaginable.

Actually this argument is.

The federal government has not paved many roads....local government does that. They do it by hiring local contractors.

I mean, can we become any more silly in these arguments ?

And most of the funding comes from the feds, or used to lol. Did you notice how high state and local taxes and FEES (which KILL the nonrich) have been getting in the 30 years of Reaganist fed income tax cuts, dingbat dupe?

 

[francoHFW]

The Greeks collect about 1/3 of the taxes due. Their economy is rife with corruption. Bribes are considered part of doing business.

Blaming all their woes on Socialism is far too simplistic, even for American Conservatives.

that is what socialism creates.......tax avoidance because of confiscatory tax rates, corruption in order to get around the government workers who make you life miserable but you can do nothing about because they are protected by their unions....and bribes....talk to any politician....it explodes in a socialist country because those in control have more power over your life....

limiting government is the only way to keep a society free and prosperous......but the left will never care to learn that lesson.....

Oh wake up! Authoritarian and Conservative governments suffer under corruption, lax tax collections and bribery too! Don't white wash this! Sins flow through all forms of government.

Blaming all of Greece's woes on Socialism is naïve, irresponsible and simplistic.

Didn't say there wasn't corruption in other forms of government...but concentrating control of society in the hands of government makes the corruption worse and more pervasive...if you have to go to a government agent for every little thing you want to do...they have power over you and very little accountability......just the formula for corruption and bribes...

That's what happens the worst under fascism, like the greek military dictatorship that was Nixon's poodle- like Iran's- that lives on in the Greek tax corruption. Much like ours with all the corrupt loopholes for the richest people and corps. Thanks Pubs and silly dupes.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Higher Taxes !!!

For the Common Good Comrades. !

 

[francoHFW]

Higher Taxes !!!

For the Common Good Comrades. !

Higher taxes on the bloated mega rich and giant corps only, who pay less %wise than the poorest people, dingbat dupe.