Gunny
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Anyone who knows baseball in the remotest knows that Barry had the talent anyway. He was keeping up with the rest of the league. Stop villainizing him for something everyone was doing. He was an asshole, but he was better than all the rest. Get over your personal dislike for him and realize that the numbers don't
Ted Williams played in a homerdome all his career. If Bonds' distances were affected by the juice, the pitchers parks at AT&T and Candlestick as well as old three rivers, made up the distance gap. The fact is Bonds swung at HIS pitches. Steroids didn't help him hit the fat part of the bat. His homers were so far over the fence that if you take the extra distance off(10 feet at the most) he still breaks Aaron's record.
Add to the fact that the best pitchers in the game were juicers too and he raked everybody.
Do I really look fat? This is a current picture of myself. I've been playing sports, specifically hardball for the last 25 years. I currently manage and play for the East Bay Lumberjacks Semi Pro Team in California East Bay Lumberjacks. I had my first down year recovering from surgery but still led the team in homers and RBI. I don't have a fat ass.
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Of course you did. You said he cheated by using steroids. Obviously you think he wouldn't have hit the home runs without them. I'm not dumb.
You're really surprising me since you've always seemed to have common sense in all the rest of your posts. I guess nobody's perfect.
You made it clear in no uncertain terms plus you are about to say it again that Bond's wasn't going to hit the home runs without the steroids. You obviously think his hitting technique is not good enough on it's own to hit the homers.
See I told you you were about to say it. Steroids do not equal power. A little later I am going to provide the mitchell report with all the names on it. You'll notice a lot o bottom of the barrel guys that didn't get better because of the roids. Since I'm also a certified personal trainer, I know a thing or two about which steroids do what to your body. The ones used by Bonds were primarily responsible for keeping him healthier and therefore younger, than he would have been. They helped him recover from injuries much faster and allowed him to workout in the gym longer without fatigue. So he still had to put the time into the gym. It's not the steroids that get you stronger, it's the extra time in the gym it allows you. It repairs your muscles faster. If you claim to know about playing ball so much, then you know that hitting homers is ALL about technique and not as much about physical strength.
I'm going out to dinner with my family but everyone here knows I'll be back on here with the mitchell report and the names of all the people exposed. I'm very surprised you haven't heard all the positive tests.
If any of those teams played today's top college team, they would be sent to the ER every last freakin one of them. All of them were way too small. That's the dumbest thing I've EVER heard.
You better believe it. And live over for all the remaining parapalegic 70's players
Humans are smart, the guys today would pick it up just the same if they had to learn that way too.
blame the league, not bonds. The whole league was and is corrupt.
More like keeping up with what everyone else was doing. get over the fact that baseball players are trying to keep a multi million dollar job by keeping up with everyone else getting a competitive edge. You'd do it too, if not, you wouldn't be in the league.
Ynumbers don't lie, context doesn't lie. Pete Rose was a gambler, not a cheating baseball player.our whole argument here is full of shit. Bonds should be getting the treatment Pete Rose has gotten. He's every bit as much if not more a cheater.
You can play your little exapand-a-post game with someone else as well. I most certainly did not say steroids had anything to do with Bonds' technique. That is an assumption on your part, coming to an illogical conclusion.
I didn't say Bonds wasn't going to hit any hom runs without steroids either. You need to learn to read. You're tapdancing, arguing against what I'm NOT saying rather than addressing what I AM saying.
You can save your little class on steroids. I've read extensively on them, and was around people that used them for probably longer than you've been on this planet. The HELL steroids don't equal power. That is as ignorant as it gets.
I'm well-aware there are different classes of steroids for different purposes. Your little song and dance about "keeping him healthier" is a snow job you need to try pulling on someone else. He packed on 30 or 40 pounds of muscle and I guess you're now going to say THAT doesn't have anything to do with power?
You're swinging in the wind, trying to defend the indefensible. He's a cheater.
Enjoy your dinner. I'm going out drinking.