Graham squirms when confronted with double standard on Subpoenas....

[mudwhistle]

I think you're confused.
Before.....we had a Congress that was working together and interested in doing the People's work.

True. Before 2009 that is.

"I’ll be the first to admit that when the tea party wave, of which I was one, got here in 2011, the last thing we were interested in was giving President Obama legislative successes." - Mick Mulvaney

Mulvaney casually confessed last week that nobody cares about the deficit. Mulvaney of course spent the Obama era claiming to care about the deficit a lot — so much, indeed, that he was willing to shut down the government or even default on the national debt in order to reduce it.

Republicans Keep Admitting Everything They Said About Obama Was a Lie

Then the Democrats became extremely partisan and obstructionist

"The Republican Party of the last quarter century regularly toggles between methodological extremes. When they gain the presidency, they dismiss congressional oversight and fiscal responsibility alike as totally unnecessary. When they relinquish it, they pursue both to fanatical extremes. Either they are blowing up the deficit and covering up wild crime sprees, or they are demanding senseless austerity and conducting permanent, redundant investigations of phantasmal Fox News–generated nonevents."

They had to change the rules to prevent Democrats from preventing discovery in investigations.

What was the outcome of what the Democrats said were phony investigations based on wildly inaccurate conspiracy theories?

That is what is called is called a leading question. It also is one with no factual basis.

Democrats were only interested in obstruction, not in finding out the truth or exhonerating the Obama Administration

There is no exonerating anyone from a Conspiracy Theory. They morph like a virus.

So that explains Russian Collusion and the Ukrainian whistleblower complaint, but Benghazi and the emails don't fall under that definition.

• Something happened
• Somebody was guilty of a cover-up
• and Democrats refused to allow an investigation in congress
• So currently the DOJ is investigating all of the above as well as the criminal conspiracy to remove the president from office using illegal warrants.

So you think the House committees that investigated Benghazi didn't have subpoena power?

Sucks to be you.

Perhaps you think the endless investigations into Benghazi weren't driven by partisan politics too?

Kevin McCarthy, then in the running for Speaker of the House, said, "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping...."

Of course it shows a pattern of behavior for the Republicans, why else would Trumpybear try to get the Ukraine to Trump up an investigation on Biden. It's worked in the past. Just the appearance is all that mattered.

You're making false statements.
And Benghazi only took as long as it did because the Obama Administration lied about the causes.

 

[The Original Tree]

Wrong.

Their oversight only pertains in matters of Legislative Oversight.

So when they investigated the attack in Benghazi, that was just legislative oversight?

For The Legislative Branch to elevate it's authority to an Investigative Body Investigating The President, they need to vote to grant themselves, in bipartisan fashion, Impeachment Powers.

Nope, another swing and a miss, nothing in our Constitution requires any type of special impeachment inquiry at all, much less bipartisan rules for them.

Sorry Punk, but that was an open hearing, in which both parties were allowed to question the convict.

Was there a Pre-Dawn Raid on Clinton's compound that I did not hear about?

The only people that showed up at The Clinton Compound was The Fire Department to put out the fire caused by Clinton Documents Spontaneously Igniting.

Fire At Clinton Compound Was In Secret Service Facility

Did Hillary Clinton get forced to Testify? Was She Subpoenaed?

Oh but she was in 1996. Because The House had Impeachment Power because they voted themselves it. When The House votes themselves in a Bi-Partisan vote to grant themselves Investigative Powers, then their Subpoenas are valid.

Hillary Clinton Is Subpoenaed To Testify Before a Grand Jury

 

[The Original Tree]

Wrong.

Their oversight only pertains in matters of Legislative Oversight.

So when they investigated the attack in Benghazi, that was just legislative oversight?

For The Legislative Branch to elevate it's authority to an Investigative Body Investigating The President, they need to vote to grant themselves, in bipartisan fashion, Impeachment Powers.

Nope, another swing and a miss, nothing in our Constitution requires any type of special impeachment inquiry at all, much less bipartisan rules for them.

There is no such thing as an Impeachment Inquiry Dummy.

What is that exactly?

"Lets ask ourselves a bunch of questions, and ask others a bunch of questions about whether or not we should vote on an Impeachment Proceeding to Commence?"

That has ZERO power to impact A Co-Equal Branch of Government.

Wasn't that what the Fake Mueller Investigation was about?
You could call that an Impeachment Inquiry.
You can call The Dog Shitting In Your Front Yard an Impeachment Inquiry.
You can call Mike Obama Adjusting His Junk an Impeachment Inquiry.

LMFAO off at your Patholigical Liars.

Fucking DemNazis Scared Shitless about Democracy and Trying to stop Democracy from happening in 2016 same as they are doing again in 2020.

 

[BlindBoo]

True. Before 2009 that is.

"I’ll be the first to admit that when the tea party wave, of which I was one, got here in 2011, the last thing we were interested in was giving President Obama legislative successes." - Mick Mulvaney

Mulvaney casually confessed last week that nobody cares about the deficit. Mulvaney of course spent the Obama era claiming to care about the deficit a lot — so much, indeed, that he was willing to shut down the government or even default on the national debt in order to reduce it.

Republicans Keep Admitting Everything They Said About Obama Was a Lie

"The Republican Party of the last quarter century regularly toggles between methodological extremes. When they gain the presidency, they dismiss congressional oversight and fiscal responsibility alike as totally unnecessary. When they relinquish it, they pursue both to fanatical extremes. Either they are blowing up the deficit and covering up wild crime sprees, or they are demanding senseless austerity and conducting permanent, redundant investigations of phantasmal Fox News–generated nonevents."

What was the outcome of what the Democrats said were phony investigations based on wildly inaccurate conspiracy theories?

That is what is called is called a leading question. It also is one with no factual basis.

Democrats were only interested in obstruction, not in finding out the truth or exhonerating the Obama Administration

There is no exonerating anyone from a Conspiracy Theory. They morph like a virus.

So that explains Russian Collusion and the Ukrainian whistleblower complaint, but Benghazi and the emails don't fall under that definition.

• Something happened
• Somebody was guilty of a cover-up
• and Democrats refused to allow an investigation in congress
• So currently the DOJ is investigating all of the above as well as the criminal conspiracy to remove the president from office using illegal warrants.

So you think the House committees that investigated Benghazi didn't have subpoena power?

Sucks to be you.

Perhaps you think the endless investigations into Benghazi weren't driven by partisan politics too?

Kevin McCarthy, then in the running for Speaker of the House, said, "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping...."

Of course it shows a pattern of behavior for the Republicans, why else would Trumpybear try to get the Ukraine to Trump up an investigation on Biden. It's worked in the past. Just the appearance is all that mattered.

You're making false statements.
And Benghazi only took as long as it did because the Obama Administration lied about the causes.

And that's a discussion we could argue about all day too, however the point is the House had subpoena power to investigate to executive branch without calling the fabled "Impeachment Inquiry". Imagine if Obama had called for his appointees to ignore those subpoena's or tried to use Blanket Immunity to obstruct those investigations.

 

[BlindBoo]

Wrong.

Their oversight only pertains in matters of Legislative Oversight.

So when they investigated the attack in Benghazi, that was just legislative oversight?

For The Legislative Branch to elevate it's authority to an Investigative Body Investigating The President, they need to vote to grant themselves, in bipartisan fashion, Impeachment Powers.

Nope, another swing and a miss, nothing in our Constitution requires any type of special impeachment inquiry at all, much less bipartisan rules for them.

There is no such thing as an Impeachment Inquiry Dummy.

What is that exactly?

"Lets ask ourselves a bunch of questions, and ask others a bunch of questions about whether or not we should vote on an Impeachment Proceeding to Commence?"

That has ZERO power to impact A Co-Equal Branch of Government.

Wasn't that what the Fake Mueller Investigation was about?
You could call that an Impeachment Inquiry.
You can call The Dog Shitting In Your Front Yard an Impeachment Inquiry.
You can call Mike Obama Adjusting His Junk an Impeachment Inquiry.

LMFAO off at your Patholigical Liars.

Fucking DemNazis Scared Shitless about Democracy and Trying to stop Democracy from happening in 2016 same as they are doing again in 2020.

They can call their investigations what they want.

 

[The Original Tree]

That is what is called is called a leading question. It also is one with no factual basis.

Democrats were only interested in obstruction, not in finding out the truth or exhonerating the Obama Administration

There is no exonerating anyone from a Conspiracy Theory. They morph like a virus.

So that explains Russian Collusion and the Ukrainian whistleblower complaint, but Benghazi and the emails don't fall under that definition.

• Something happened
• Somebody was guilty of a cover-up
• and Democrats refused to allow an investigation in congress
• So currently the DOJ is investigating all of the above as well as the criminal conspiracy to remove the president from office using illegal warrants.

So you think the House committees that investigated Benghazi didn't have subpoena power?

Sucks to be you.

Perhaps you think the endless investigations into Benghazi weren't driven by partisan politics too?

Kevin McCarthy, then in the running for Speaker of the House, said, "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping...."

Of course it shows a pattern of behavior for the Republicans, why else would Trumpybear try to get the Ukraine to Trump up an investigation on Biden. It's worked in the past. Just the appearance is all that mattered.

You're making false statements.
And Benghazi only took as long as it did because the Obama Administration lied about the causes.

And that's a discussion we could argue about all day too, however the point is the House had subpoena power to investigate to executive branch without calling the fabled "Impeachment Inquiry". Imagine if Obama had called for his appointees to ignore those subpoena's or tried to use Blanket Immunity to obstruct those investigations.

Blanket Immunity was used for the entire Clinton Campaign and Podesta Group to Obstruct Justice. Also, no one was COMPELLED to Testify.

 

[The Original Tree]

Wrong.

Their oversight only pertains in matters of Legislative Oversight.

So when they investigated the attack in Benghazi, that was just legislative oversight?

For The Legislative Branch to elevate it's authority to an Investigative Body Investigating The President, they need to vote to grant themselves, in bipartisan fashion, Impeachment Powers.

Nope, another swing and a miss, nothing in our Constitution requires any type of special impeachment inquiry at all, much less bipartisan rules for them.

There is no such thing as an Impeachment Inquiry Dummy.

What is that exactly?

"Lets ask ourselves a bunch of questions, and ask others a bunch of questions about whether or not we should vote on an Impeachment Proceeding to Commence?"

That has ZERO power to impact A Co-Equal Branch of Government.

Wasn't that what the Fake Mueller Investigation was about?
You could call that an Impeachment Inquiry.
You can call The Dog Shitting In Your Front Yard an Impeachment Inquiry.
You can call Mike Obama Adjusting His Junk an Impeachment Inquiry.

LMFAO off at your Patholigical Liars.

Fucking DemNazis Scared Shitless about Democracy and Trying to stop Democracy from happening in 2016 same as they are doing again in 2020.

They can call their investigations what they want.

Just like you can call Mike Obama First Lady while she scratches her testicles.

These Committees have no power to issue actual Subpoenas

Only when The House votes to grant themselves Investigative Powers in a Bi Partisan Vote are their Subpoenas Valid.

No one has to show up for Adam Shit Face and Nazi Pelosi unless they want to.

 

[Hellokitty]

LOL, Dems are mad that Graham isn't willing to go full McCain...

Actually, we have a pool going on what trump has on Graham.

Um re-election is what TRUMP holds over Graham.

 

[BlindBoo]

There is no exonerating anyone from a Conspiracy Theory. They morph like a virus.

So that explains Russian Collusion and the Ukrainian whistleblower complaint, but Benghazi and the emails don't fall under that definition.

• Something happened
• Somebody was guilty of a cover-up
• and Democrats refused to allow an investigation in congress
• So currently the DOJ is investigating all of the above as well as the criminal conspiracy to remove the president from office using illegal warrants.

So you think the House committees that investigated Benghazi didn't have subpoena power?

Sucks to be you.

Perhaps you think the endless investigations into Benghazi weren't driven by partisan politics too?

Kevin McCarthy, then in the running for Speaker of the House, said, "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping...."

Of course it shows a pattern of behavior for the Republicans, why else would Trumpybear try to get the Ukraine to Trump up an investigation on Biden. It's worked in the past. Just the appearance is all that mattered.

You're making false statements.
And Benghazi only took as long as it did because the Obama Administration lied about the causes.

And that's a discussion we could argue about all day too, however the point is the House had subpoena power to investigate to executive branch without calling the fabled "Impeachment Inquiry". Imagine if Obama had called for his appointees to ignore those subpoena's or tried to use Blanket Immunity to obstruct those investigations.

Blanket Immunity was used for the entire Clinton Campaign and Podesta Group to Obstruct Justice. Also, no one was COMPELLED to Testify.

Do you live by a Brook? All I hear is babbling......

 

[The Original Tree]

So that explains Russian Collusion and the Ukrainian whistleblower complaint, but Benghazi and the emails don't fall under that definition.

• Something happened
• Somebody was guilty of a cover-up
• and Democrats refused to allow an investigation in congress
• So currently the DOJ is investigating all of the above as well as the criminal conspiracy to remove the president from office using illegal warrants.

So you think the House committees that investigated Benghazi didn't have subpoena power?

Sucks to be you.

Perhaps you think the endless investigations into Benghazi weren't driven by partisan politics too?

Kevin McCarthy, then in the running for Speaker of the House, said, "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping...."

Of course it shows a pattern of behavior for the Republicans, why else would Trumpybear try to get the Ukraine to Trump up an investigation on Biden. It's worked in the past. Just the appearance is all that mattered.

You're making false statements.
And Benghazi only took as long as it did because the Obama Administration lied about the causes.

And that's a discussion we could argue about all day too, however the point is the House had subpoena power to investigate to executive branch without calling the fabled "Impeachment Inquiry". Imagine if Obama had called for his appointees to ignore those subpoena's or tried to use Blanket Immunity to obstruct those investigations.

Blanket Immunity was used for the entire Clinton Campaign and Podesta Group to Obstruct Justice. Also, no one was COMPELLED to Testify.

Do you live by a Brook? All I hear is babbling......

Do you live by a Hairy Man Butt Love Shack? I can't hear anything you are saying with Putin's Balls resting on your chin.

 

[BlindBoo]

These Committees have no power to issue actual Subpoenas

Yes they do. You should give Darrel Issa a big sloppy kiss for that too.

Only when The House votes to grant themselves Investigative Powers in a Bi Partisan Vote are their Subpoenas Valid.

Nope. Even in the past it was simple majority vote, but now it's no longer necessary. They have subpoena power out of the gate.

No one has to show up for Adam Shit Face and Nazi Pelosi unless they want to.

Prepare to be disappointed.

 

[BlindBoo]

So you think the House committees that investigated Benghazi didn't have subpoena power?

Sucks to be you.

Perhaps you think the endless investigations into Benghazi weren't driven by partisan politics too?

Kevin McCarthy, then in the running for Speaker of the House, said, "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping...."

Of course it shows a pattern of behavior for the Republicans, why else would Trumpybear try to get the Ukraine to Trump up an investigation on Biden. It's worked in the past. Just the appearance is all that mattered.

You're making false statements.
And Benghazi only took as long as it did because the Obama Administration lied about the causes.

And that's a discussion we could argue about all day too, however the point is the House had subpoena power to investigate to executive branch without calling the fabled "Impeachment Inquiry". Imagine if Obama had called for his appointees to ignore those subpoena's or tried to use Blanket Immunity to obstruct those investigations.

Blanket Immunity was used for the entire Clinton Campaign and Podesta Group to Obstruct Justice. Also, no one was COMPELLED to Testify.

Do you live by a Brook? All I hear is babbling......

Do you live by a Hairy Man Butt Love Shack? I can't hear anything you are saying with Putin's Balls resting on your chin.

I think you're suppressing your inner feelings. Don't hold back. Let your inner beauty soar........

 

[sartre play]

Now he is mad at Graham, who tried to cover his butt, because Graham said don't believe me, then at least pay attention to what your military advisors are saying.

 

[mudwhistle]

That is what is called is called a leading question. It also is one with no factual basis.

Democrats were only interested in obstruction, not in finding out the truth or exhonerating the Obama Administration

There is no exonerating anyone from a Conspiracy Theory. They morph like a virus.

So that explains Russian Collusion and the Ukrainian whistleblower complaint, but Benghazi and the emails don't fall under that definition.

• Something happened
• Somebody was guilty of a cover-up
• and Democrats refused to allow an investigation in congress
• So currently the DOJ is investigating all of the above as well as the criminal conspiracy to remove the president from office using illegal warrants.

So you think the House committees that investigated Benghazi didn't have subpoena power?

Sucks to be you.

Perhaps you think the endless investigations into Benghazi weren't driven by partisan politics too?

Kevin McCarthy, then in the running for Speaker of the House, said, "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping...."

Of course it shows a pattern of behavior for the Republicans, why else would Trumpybear try to get the Ukraine to Trump up an investigation on Biden. It's worked in the past. Just the appearance is all that mattered.

You're making false statements.
And Benghazi only took as long as it did because the Obama Administration lied about the causes.

And that's a discussion we could argue about all day too, however the point is the House had subpoena power to investigate to executive branch without calling the fabled "Impeachment Inquiry". Imagine if Obama had called for his appointees to ignore those subpoena's or tried to use Blanket Immunity to obstruct those investigations.

Sorry, this is an impeachment according to the Democrats, which puts this in a whole different ballpark.

The Republicans made a point before of saying Obama wasn't the focus of the investigation, so they had the right to issue subpoenas to get to the truth. However, the Democrats are making all sorts of false claims the president did something illegal when the transcripts proved he wasn't. They're using a fake whistleblower to start an investigation based off of perjured testimony by the chairman doing the investigation.

It's okay for congress to subpoena witnesses if there is a reasonable suspicion of illegal acts, but they cannot issue them without probable cause....which is what they are doing. They lied about the process, the evidence, and about their direct contact and collusion with the whistleblower.

In the case of Benghazi, Obama lied to the people of this country about the causes of the attack. He threatened witnesses with prosecution if they testified about what was really going on in Benghazi. He stonewalled and ignored requests for interviews from Republicans who threatened with subpoenas in various investigations.....but when they actually issued them Obama either asserted executive privilege or his witnesses claimed the 5th. You really have a short memory, dude.

 

[BlindBoo]

There is no exonerating anyone from a Conspiracy Theory. They morph like a virus.

So that explains Russian Collusion and the Ukrainian whistleblower complaint, but Benghazi and the emails don't fall under that definition.

• Something happened
• Somebody was guilty of a cover-up
• and Democrats refused to allow an investigation in congress
• So currently the DOJ is investigating all of the above as well as the criminal conspiracy to remove the president from office using illegal warrants.

So you think the House committees that investigated Benghazi didn't have subpoena power?

Sucks to be you.

Perhaps you think the endless investigations into Benghazi weren't driven by partisan politics too?

Kevin McCarthy, then in the running for Speaker of the House, said, "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping...."

Of course it shows a pattern of behavior for the Republicans, why else would Trumpybear try to get the Ukraine to Trump up an investigation on Biden. It's worked in the past. Just the appearance is all that mattered.

You're making false statements.
And Benghazi only took as long as it did because the Obama Administration lied about the causes.

And that's a discussion we could argue about all day too, however the point is the House had subpoena power to investigate to executive branch without calling the fabled "Impeachment Inquiry". Imagine if Obama had called for his appointees to ignore those subpoena's or tried to use Blanket Immunity to obstruct those investigations.

Sorry, this is an impeachment according to the Democrats, which puts this in a whole different ballpark.

The Republicans made a point before of saying Obama wasn't the focus of the investigation, so they had the right to issue subpoenas to get to the truth. However, the Democrats are making all sorts of false claims the president did something illegal when the transcripts proved he wasn't. They're using a fake whistleblower to start an investigation based off of perjured testimony by the chairman doing the investigation.

It's okay for congress to subpoena witnesses if there is a reasonable suspicion of illegal acts, but they cannot issue them without probable cause....which is what they are doing. They lied about the process, the evidence, and about their direct contact and collusion with the whistleblower.

In the case of Benghazi Obama lied to the people of this country about the causes of the attack. He threatened witnesses with prosecution if they testified about what was really going on in Benghazi. He stonewalled and ignored requests for interviews from Republicans who threatened with subpoenas in various investigations.....but when they actually issued them Obama either asserted executive privilege or his witnesses claimed the 5th. You really have a short memory, dude.

They have never called it an impeachment. There are no articles of impeachment drawn up. The is no constitutional mechanism called an "Impeachment Inquiry". Furthermore, calling their investigation in the various committees doing the work and impeachment inquiry doesn't abrogate their subpoena power to investigate what they consider wrong doing by the administration.

 

[Dragonlady]

True. Before 2009 that is.

"I’ll be the first to admit that when the tea party wave, of which I was one, got here in 2011, the last thing we were interested in was giving President Obama legislative successes." - Mick Mulvaney

Mulvaney casually confessed last week that nobody cares about the deficit. Mulvaney of course spent the Obama era claiming to care about the deficit a lot — so much, indeed, that he was willing to shut down the government or even default on the national debt in order to reduce it.

Republicans Keep Admitting Everything They Said About Obama Was a Lie

"The Republican Party of the last quarter century regularly toggles between methodological extremes. When they gain the presidency, they dismiss congressional oversight and fiscal responsibility alike as totally unnecessary. When they relinquish it, they pursue both to fanatical extremes. Either they are blowing up the deficit and covering up wild crime sprees, or they are demanding senseless austerity and conducting permanent, redundant investigations of phantasmal Fox News–generated nonevents."

What was the outcome of what the Democrats said were phony investigations based on wildly inaccurate conspiracy theories?

That is what is called is called a leading question. It also is one with no factual basis.

Democrats were only interested in obstruction, not in finding out the truth or exhonerating the Obama Administration

There is no exonerating anyone from a Conspiracy Theory. They morph like a virus.

So that explains Russian Collusion and the Ukrainian whistleblower complaint, but Benghazi and the emails don't fall under that definition.

• Something happened
• Somebody was guilty of a cover-up
• and Democrats refused to allow an investigation in congress
• So currently the DOJ is investigating all of the above as well as the criminal conspiracy to remove the president from office using illegal warrants.

So you think the House committees that investigated Benghazi didn't have subpoena power?

Sucks to be you.

Perhaps you think the endless investigations into Benghazi weren't driven by partisan politics too?

Kevin McCarthy, then in the running for Speaker of the House, said, "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping...."

Of course it shows a pattern of behavior for the Republicans, why else would Trumpybear try to get the Ukraine to Trump up an investigation on Biden. It's worked in the past. Just the appearance is all that mattered.

You're making false statements.
And Benghazi only took as long as it did because the Obama Administration lied about the causes.

7 Benghazi Investigations happened because Republicans refused to believe that what you just posted, is a total lie. Every investigation report said that the Administration did not lie about the cause of the attack, and every chairman closed the report folder which said "No lies, no wrongdoing" and vowed to keep investigating until they found something.

5 years of investigation and not one lie that FOX News fed to you fools was ever proven to be true. Not one.

 

[mudwhistle]

So that explains Russian Collusion and the Ukrainian whistleblower complaint, but Benghazi and the emails don't fall under that definition.

• Something happened
• Somebody was guilty of a cover-up
• and Democrats refused to allow an investigation in congress
• So currently the DOJ is investigating all of the above as well as the criminal conspiracy to remove the president from office using illegal warrants.

So you think the House committees that investigated Benghazi didn't have subpoena power?

Sucks to be you.

Perhaps you think the endless investigations into Benghazi weren't driven by partisan politics too?

Kevin McCarthy, then in the running for Speaker of the House, said, "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping...."

Of course it shows a pattern of behavior for the Republicans, why else would Trumpybear try to get the Ukraine to Trump up an investigation on Biden. It's worked in the past. Just the appearance is all that mattered.

You're making false statements.
And Benghazi only took as long as it did because the Obama Administration lied about the causes.

And that's a discussion we could argue about all day too, however the point is the House had subpoena power to investigate to executive branch without calling the fabled "Impeachment Inquiry". Imagine if Obama had called for his appointees to ignore those subpoena's or tried to use Blanket Immunity to obstruct those investigations.

Sorry, this is an impeachment according to the Democrats, which puts this in a whole different ballpark.

The Republicans made a point before of saying Obama wasn't the focus of the investigation, so they had the right to issue subpoenas to get to the truth. However, the Democrats are making all sorts of false claims the president did something illegal when the transcripts proved he wasn't. They're using a fake whistleblower to start an investigation based off of perjured testimony by the chairman doing the investigation.

It's okay for congress to subpoena witnesses if there is a reasonable suspicion of illegal acts, but they cannot issue them without probable cause....which is what they are doing. They lied about the process, the evidence, and about their direct contact and collusion with the whistleblower.

In the case of Benghazi Obama lied to the people of this country about the causes of the attack. He threatened witnesses with prosecution if they testified about what was really going on in Benghazi. He stonewalled and ignored requests for interviews from Republicans who threatened with subpoenas in various investigations.....but when they actually issued them Obama either asserted executive privilege or his witnesses claimed the 5th. You really have a short memory, dude.

They have never called it an impeachment. There are no articles of impeachment drawn up. The is no constitutional mechanism called an "Impeachment Inquiry". Furthermore, calling their investigation in the various committees doing the work and impeachment inquiry doesn't abrogate their subpoena power to investigate what they consider wrong doing by the administration.

Liar. Nancy Pelosi called it an official impeachment *inquiry* which means they lied about the format they would follow.
It isn't an impeachment....as I have said repeatedly.
They had no right to use the word impeachment.
This is a yet another fraud perpetrated by Democrats on the public.

Now Nancy says they ain't gonna vote on an impeachment......and my guess is they never intended to.

 

[BlindBoo]

So you think the House committees that investigated Benghazi didn't have subpoena power?

Sucks to be you.

Perhaps you think the endless investigations into Benghazi weren't driven by partisan politics too?

Kevin McCarthy, then in the running for Speaker of the House, said, "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping...."

Of course it shows a pattern of behavior for the Republicans, why else would Trumpybear try to get the Ukraine to Trump up an investigation on Biden. It's worked in the past. Just the appearance is all that mattered.

You're making false statements.
And Benghazi only took as long as it did because the Obama Administration lied about the causes.

And that's a discussion we could argue about all day too, however the point is the House had subpoena power to investigate to executive branch without calling the fabled "Impeachment Inquiry". Imagine if Obama had called for his appointees to ignore those subpoena's or tried to use Blanket Immunity to obstruct those investigations.

Sorry, this is an impeachment according to the Democrats, which puts this in a whole different ballpark.

The Republicans made a point before of saying Obama wasn't the focus of the investigation, so they had the right to issue subpoenas to get to the truth. However, the Democrats are making all sorts of false claims the president did something illegal when the transcripts proved he wasn't. They're using a fake whistleblower to start an investigation based off of perjured testimony by the chairman doing the investigation.

It's okay for congress to subpoena witnesses if there is a reasonable suspicion of illegal acts, but they cannot issue them without probable cause....which is what they are doing. They lied about the process, the evidence, and about their direct contact and collusion with the whistleblower.

In the case of Benghazi Obama lied to the people of this country about the causes of the attack. He threatened witnesses with prosecution if they testified about what was really going on in Benghazi. He stonewalled and ignored requests for interviews from Republicans who threatened with subpoenas in various investigations.....but when they actually issued them Obama either asserted executive privilege or his witnesses claimed the 5th. You really have a short memory, dude.

They have never called it an impeachment. There are no articles of impeachment drawn up. The is no constitutional mechanism called an "Impeachment Inquiry". Furthermore, calling their investigation in the various committees doing the work and impeachment inquiry doesn't abrogate their subpoena power to investigate what they consider wrong doing by the administration.

Liar. Nancy Pelosi called it an official impeachment *inquiry* which means they lied about the format they would follow.
It isn't an impeachment....as I have said repeatedly.
They had no right to use the word impeachment.
This is a yet another fraud perpetrated by Democrats on the public.

Now Nancy says they ain't gonna vote on an impeachment......and my guess is they never intended to.

Yawn. She can call it whateverthefuck she wants. They are certainly inquiring about possible impeachable offenses. Who exactly determines which words the Speaker of the House can use? Is there a book somewhere that lists the words they are not allowed to utter?

Do you think she meant "never" on impeachment?

Dreamer.

 

[justoffal]

Graham has impeachment double standard

Nothing has changed.....The trump regime stonewalling Congress is Impeachable...

Our country is based in Checks and Balances.....Without that assurance....an Authoritarian system will rise.....

The stonewalling of Congress by trump and his thugs is turning the Constitution on its head....IT WILL BE ADDED TO THE ARTICLES IF IMPEACHMENT. trump WILLBE IMPEACHED.....Snakes deserve to be Impeached.

If the defiance goes to court....the trump regime will lose Bigly....

Time to put the little plastic army men away now. See that's not how the world works it doesn't start with your post here in USMB and then osmote out to reality.

THE HOUSE CAN'T DO A DAMN THING UNTIL THEY TAKE A VOTE.
AND THEY'RE SCARED SHITTLESS TO DO IT.

JO

 

[WillowTree]

Link?
And you won’t mind when a Republican house does this to a DemonRat Prez?

Dems blast House GOP subpoena rules change

They already did it to Obama. Why do you think they changed the rules?

The GOP was impeaching Obama in 2015?
In a letter shared with POLITICO, the Democrats slams the GOP conference for changing rules on a number of House committees to make it easier for Republicans to subpoena witnesses without consultation or approval from minority lawmakers - an effort that came as Republicans are preparing aggressive oversight efforts for President Barack Obama’s final two years in office.

That's a good question, well I suppose it's a question. The GOP House had and used the subpoena power to investigate what they saw as wrongdoing in the executive branch, without ever having to call a special Impeachment Inquiry.

The obstruction into Congressional oversight began before the DEMS called "Impeachment Inquiry"!

Good catch.

Wait a fucking minute!!!!!

Congress has the Constitutionional right to provide oversight of the Executive Branch. It doesn't have to be an impeachment. Impeachment is supposed to be a last resort to reigning in a official who has demonstrated a disregard for the law.

Ignoring duly authorized subpoenas is a disregard for the law. Ordering your appointees to ignore them is callous disregard for the law.

Well democrats crossing the border and escorting illegals in is a total disregard for the law. They reap what they sow hey?