Government Schools Turn Young People into Socialists

[blimpo]

The irony of this thread is that in socialist countries, they do not treat all students as equals. Students are segregated according to interests and abilities. We actually need to consider that model.

I foresee law suits out the kazoo if that would happen. Parents would scream that their kid was being discriminated against and not included.You know yourself the LRE has brought special ed students into the regular classes when in some cases they have no business being there. The parents more often than not get what they want and to hell with everyone else.

One of my Downs students mom wants her child in regular ed classes as much as possible to have role models and someone to emulate. Just wait until the regular ed kids start talking about booze and sex. I was happy about this though because the parent is a fvcking bitch and the less I have to deal with the kid the less I have to deal with the
nasty bitch.



at one time we had college prep, general and vocational tracks.

Nowadays everyone is going to college.

everybody? Even high school dropouts?

Sadly, yes- up until the day they drop out...maybe that's part of why they quit. Why take courses to prepare you for something you don't want to do.

 

[American_Jihad]

Enuff said Jihad you despise America, clearly.

Listen up bakedturkey, Ya left out two words, radical left.

Enuff said Jihad you despise radical left America, clearly.

There ya go...

 

[American_Jihad]

Government Schools Turn Young People into Socialists

August 15, 2012
by Gary DeMar


Public schools are the breeding ground for socialism. Adolf Hitler understood the need for government controlled education. Kids have been so brainwashed by government educators that they believe that Nazism is an ideology of the political right. In fact, it’s a leftist ideology: National Socialism.

On May 1, 1937, Hitler declared, “This new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing.”[1]

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When we sent our children to non-government schools, my wife and I worked and went without so we could afford it. We drove our cars for nearly ten years. I finally gave up my 1987 Honda Accord after 267,000 miles. Sacrifice was a regular vocabulary word in our house.

Spending someone else’s money is always more profitable than spending your own. Public schools, by their very existence, will assure future generations that socialism will prevail in America.


Read more: Government Schools Turn Young People into Socialists : Political Outcast

Those who embrace Nazism today are on the right. This is what is important.

STUPID

 

[JakeStarkey]

To you, radical left America begins just left of Sarah Palin.

You left that out.

You are not mainstream and you dislike mainstream American values.

Enuff said Jihad you despise America, clearly.

Listen up bakedturkey, Ya left out two words, radical left.

Enuff said Jihad you despise radical left America, clearly.

There ya go...

 

[blimpo]

After thinking about it I agree.

Lots of socialism in the school I was in.

The only reason many kids came to school was to socialize..

 

[American_Jihad]

Total Destruction of the U.S.: An Interview with Larry Grathwohl ​

2/20/13
By Daren Jonescu


If your church's new pastor had a long and well-known history of atheism, contradicting church doctrine, or fire-bombing churches, would you trust him to serve the church community in good faith, and to do everything in his power to uphold the church's principles and practices? More to the point, would you continue to attend that church, and to take your children there?

If people dedicated to the complete destruction of the United States as a constitutional republic became power-players in the public school establishment, would you expect them to build an education system that fostered and preserved the tenets of republican citizenship as understood by America's founders? Would you continue to support the public schools, and send your children there?

For a hundred years, the main intellectual force behind America's educational establishment has been John Dewey, a socialist and open critic of the Enlightenment, American individualism, and American constitutional government. What kind of education system should people have expected Dewey and his admirers to promote? Should anyone be surprised that the public school establishment built largely according to his theories has become an anti-American cesspool of collectivism, irrationalism, and immorality?

Today, the educational insanity has reached new heights. The public school establishment has devolved from following the wisdom of men who hoped to remodel America in a Marxist image to following men who have actively sought to instigate violent revolution. The church leadership, as it were, has devolved from atheists to fire-bombers.

Bill Ayers, a leader of the Weather Underground terrorist organization, became a "respected" professor of education -- a teacher of teachers -- and a leading theorist on early childhood education. If you are one of those who wish to remain blissfully in the fog about this fact or its implications, you had better stop reading now.

Larry Grathwohl is the military veteran who volunteered to infiltrate the Weather Underground as an FBI operative in 1969. He is probably best-known for his firsthand account of a Weatherman meeting at which the organization's leadership, including the future Professor Ayers, discussed the logistics of how, after the communist revolution they were trying to spearhead, they would murder the ten percent of the American population that would likely remain resistant to the communists' re-education program.

Grathwohl has often been interviewed about that meeting and about his days among the Weather Underground (WU). The focus of those interviews used to be on the radicals and their terrorist operations. More recently, interviewers have turned to Grathwohl to help them highlight Barack Obama's own radicalism, by reminding people of the true nature of the "guy in Obama's neighborhood."

Rather than retrace these (important) angles, I chose to tie Grathwohl's knowledge of Ayers and the rest of the WU leadership to the issue of public education. Alarming as it is that the president of the United States has, and has carefully concealed, a personal association with a lifelong revolutionary communist, I believe that even that pales in comparison with the mainstream influence and respectability that Ayers, and some of his old cohorts, have come to enjoy in the field of childhood education. A president with Marxist inclinations and attitudes is a great threat. Entire generations of children receiving their first years of moral and intellectual education at de facto Marxist re-education camps -- that is a societal catastrophe.

Recently, I have been urging anyone who will listen to stop making excuses for allowing the government to continue controlling the education of their children, and to get any child under their influence out of the public education system now. Stop rationalizing inaction: modern public education, as the few intelligent, noble, suffering teachers in the system can tell you, is a Dewey-rigged atrocity, a forced-retardation machine. In America, that machine is now, increasingly, being reprogrammed as a direct socialist indoctrination system. One of the leading programmers is Bill Ayers.

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Read more: Articles: Total Destruction of the U.S.: An Interview with Larry Grathwohl

 

[Mr. H.]

Do we REALLY know just who's occupying our White House?
I think not.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Sorry to dispute you....

Schools are filed with today's students who are self-centered, materialistic, show little empathy for others, and are not concerned about their futures.

From a life of personal observations, I don't think this kind of mindset fosters socialism......

This Gary DeMar is a whack-job...

It's precisely that mindset. Socialism is sheer materialism. That's its very nature, and only the blind can't see what the public education system in America is all about.

 

[regent]

Government Schools Turn Young People into Socialists

August 15, 2012
by Gary DeMar


Public schools are the breeding ground for socialism. Adolf Hitler understood the need for government controlled education. Kids have been so brainwashed by government educators that they believe that Nazism is an ideology of the political right. In fact, it’s a leftist ideology: National Socialism.

On May 1, 1937, Hitler declared, “This new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing.”[1]

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When we sent our children to non-government schools, my wife and I worked and went without so we could afford it. We drove our cars for nearly ten years. I finally gave up my 1987 Honda Accord after 267,000 miles. Sacrifice was a regular vocabulary word in our house.

Spending someone else’s money is always more profitable than spending your own. Public schools, by their very existence, will assure future generations that socialism will prevail in America.


Read more: Government Schools Turn Young People into Socialists : Political Outcast

Those who embrace Nazism today are on the right. This is what is important.

Most people know that NAZI is not socialist, the problem some people have is that they have infinite trust in Hitler and his words, just as many Germans had in 1933.

"Essentially Nationalists and patrioteers the Nazi insert 'socialist' into their party's name simply as a lure to discontented workers." Time magazine 1933.

 

[initforme]

funny all my kids attended public schools, got a first rate education, went to college, and are successful in white collar professions. They are surely no socialists nor was any part of their education even a smidgeon of socialist. I refute the article.

 

[American_Jihad]

The Endgame for the Destruction of the United States​

By Daren Jonescu
2/21/13


See also Part One: Total Destruction of the U.S.: An Interview with Larry Grathwohl and Part Two: American Education: Rotting the Country from the Inside

In Part 1 of this interview with former FBI operative Larry Grathwohl, we addressed the goals and methods of the Weatherman organization and debunked recent attempts to dismiss their words and activities as "youthful folly" or "typical of those days." In Part 2, we discussed the continuity of purpose connecting the murderous radicalism of the Weather Underground leadership with the progressive education and social justice advocacy of the "mature," "respectable" Ayers, Dohrn, Machtinger, Boudin, and others.

Here in the final installment, I ask Grathwohl about the alarming cognitive dissonance of today's Middle America in the throes of the "fundamental transformation" promised by Barack Obama, facilitated by the progressive education and legal establishments, and put into practice by federal agency appointees, colleges of education, union leaders, and bureaucrats with established leftist pedigrees.

As an example of this dissonance, consider an American colleague of mine here in Korea: a friendly, down-to-earth, educated family man in his early thirties, and a teacher by profession. On the eve of the 2012 election, I asked him whether it bothered him that Barack Obama had been so strongly endorsed by the Communist Party. He said he had never heard of that. When I explained that the Party's official endorsement cited Obama's signature policy initiatives as the surest means to achieving socialism in America, and that CPUSA leaders were actively campaigning for Obama in swing states, my colleague fell silent for a moment, and then said, matter-of-factly, "It doesn't really bother me; I guess it might bother me if Obama were endorsing the Communist Party, but if they're endorsing him, it doesn't matter."

I leave you with that thought, by way of introduction to Part 3 of my conversation with Larry Grathwohl.

DJ: The Communist Party USA has officially endorsed and vocally supported President Obama, and his administration has included several people with well-known Marxist or Maoist views and affiliations. And yet most people, including many so-called conservatives, shy away from this entire subject area, and they practically run for the hills when anyone mentions Bill Ayers, re-education camps, or communism in connection with current political events.

Why do you think there is such discomfort among Americans, including supposed conservatives, when confronted with this issue?

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Van Jones, who was appointed as the green jobs czar by President Obama, is very active [in the] political movement in the Bay Area, particularly in Oakland and Berkeley. He has associations with Bill Ayers and has attended Occupy meetings in which they were both in attendance.

It is simply impossible to conclude that any of these people have in any way, shape, or form been influenced to change their political beliefs or their goal and objectives by the passage of time. They still believe that the United States is the root of all evil and must be destroyed, whatever it takes. Innocent lives or genuine disagreement is not a qualification for being spared, and it is my belief that Bill and people who follow Bill are consumed with this hatred for this country and a desire to be in control of life and death, and this may be the underlying reason for the personality disorders they obviously suffer from.

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Read more: Articles: The Endgame for the Destruction of the United States

 

[American_Jihad]

Is Leftist School Indoctrination Unstoppable?​

February 27, 2013
By Bruce Thornton

Rush Limbaugh weighed in recently on the Republicans’ on-going debate about what went wrong in November. Elaborating on his earlier comment that he was “ashamed of America,” Limbaugh said, “The Left has beaten us. They have created far more low-information, unaware, uneducated people than we’ve been able to keep up with . . . I’ve always had a Civics 101 view of the country: People get what they want, they vote what they want, and they get the way they vote.” He added that the Democrats “control the education system . . . pop culture, movies, TV and books” and use that control to create “dependency” among voters.

Some may think this is a dog-bites-man observation, but it’s worth looking more closely at the most important item in Limbaugh’s list––the educational system. Everything else Limbaugh mentions is made possible because of the deep corruption in public education from kindergarten to university.

We often focus on the ideological biases of the university, where the more lunatic examples of political correctness get the most attention. But in education as in economics, there is a trickle-down effect. The grandees at the elite universities train the PhD’s who go on to second and third tier institutions, where they in turn train the students who get high school and grade school teaching credentials. They also write most of the textbooks that end up in K-12 classrooms. Thus the progressive ideology metastasizes throughout the educational system, determining the curriculum, the textbooks, and the point of view of the teachers. At that level the ideas may be garbled, half-baked, incoherent, and a collection of clichés and slogans. But they are still toxic and effective at transmitting a world-view to impressionable minds.

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The Jesuit educational maxim was, “Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the man.” Today’s progressives get children until they are 18 and sometimes 21. That kind of influence is hard to match.

Is Leftist School Indoctrination Unstoppable?



Home School http://www.usmessageboard.com/education/225311-liberal-lies-about-homeschooling.html


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[American_Jihad]

How Public Schools are Like the Wizard of Oz


March 29, 2013
by David L. Goetsch


In a recent column I asked conservatives why their children are still in public school. The point of the column was that subjecting children to leftwing indoctrination six or more hours a day five days a week for twelve years is bound to have an effect and not the effect conservative parents would want for their children. The column got a big response—mostly positive—but I did step on a few toes. Several conservative readers became defensive and claimed they had no choice but to send their children to public school. These few responded that the alternatives I listed in my column—private schools, Christian schools, charter schools, and homeschools—will not work for them, although none of them explained why.

Over the years, I have heard all of the reasons why conservative parents feel compelled to put their children in public school, no matter how inadvisable this choice might be. Now I am going to give my side of the argument and explain why conservative parents who knowingly subject their children to twelve years of leftwing indoctrination and academic tripe need to look in a mirror and decide what is important. I will begin my explanation with a quote from Pastor Randy Booth’s essay, “Rethinking Education.” Booth writes: “Government education, because it is nearly universal, monolithic and a self-sustaining institution has more power to create our worldview and character than almost anything else in America. It strongly influences what we feel and how we will do the work of the mind (even when we don’t realize its influence). This should not be surprising when you think about it. Growing up, each week we spend two or three hours in church and thirty to forty in school.”

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I have heard all of the reasons conservative parents give for sending their children to public school, but when I observe the results in the negative attitudes and inadequate academic and moral preparation of their children these reasons sound more and more like paltry excuses. A conversation I recently heard sums up my argument on this topic better than anything I can write. I had just spoken to a TEA Party group and was mingling in the crowd. I heard one parent ask another: “Where do your children go to school?” He answered, “They both go to the local middle school.” The one who had asked the question then asked another—a stunner: “Why? Don’t you love them?”


Read more: How Public Schools are Like the Wizard of Oz ? Patriot Update

 

[Friends]

@CNNMoney December 4, 2012: 2:11 PM ET

Just four years after the worst shock to the economy since the Great Depression, U.S. corporate profits are stronger than ever.
In the third quarter, corporate earnings were $1.75 trillion, up 18.6% from a year ago, according to last week'si gross domestic product report. That took after-tax profits to their greatest percentage of GDP in history.

But the record profits come at the same time that workers' wages have fallen to their lowest-ever share of GDP.

"That's how it works," said Robert Brusca, economist with FAO Research in New York, who said there is a natural tension between profits and the cost of labor. "If one gets bigger, the other gets smaller."
Corporate profits hit record as wages get squeezed - Dec. 3, 2012



The Wall Street Journal September 17, 2010

The inflation-adjusted income of the median household—smack in the middle of the populace—fell 4.8% between 2000 and 2009, even worse than the 1970s, when median income rose 1.9% despite high unemployment and inflation. Between 2007 and 2009, incomes fell 4.2%.

"It's going to be a long, hard slog back to what most Americans think of as normalcy or prosperous times," said Nicholas Eberstadt, a political economist at the right-leaning American Enterprise Institute.
Lost Decade for American Income - WSJ.com

 

[Friends]

First Posted: 12/29/11

Young people -- the collegiate and post-college crowd, who have served as the most visible face of the Occupy Wall Street movement -- might be getting more comfortable with socialism. That's the surprising result from a Pew Research Center poll that aims to measure American sentiments toward different political labels.

The poll, published Wednesday, found that while Americans overall tend to oppose socialism by a strong margin -- 60 percent say they have a negative view of it, versus just 31 percent who say they have a positive view -- socialism has more fans than opponents among the 18-29 crowd. Forty-nine percent of people in that age bracket say they have a positive view of socialism; only 43 percent say they have a negative view.
Young People More Likely To Favor Socialism Than Capitalism: Pew


Gallup February 4, 2010

PRINCETON, NJ -- More than one-third of Americans (36%) have a positive image of "socialism," while 58% have a negative image. Views differ by party and ideology, with a majority of Democrats and liberals saying they have a positive view of socialism, compared to a minority of Republicans and conservatives.
Socialism Viewed Positively by 36% of Americans



According to a Gallup poll conducted November 18-19, more than half of Democrats (53%) approve of socialism, which isn’t surprising, but almost one-quarter of Republicans (23%) also do.
Gallup: Half Of Democrats, Quarter of Republicans Approve of Socialism

 

[Friends]

The popularity of socialism in the United States is somewhat surprising, because no one with national name recognition has advocated socialism since the death of Michael Harrington in 1989. Even during his life Harrington was an outlier among political commentators in the United States. I am confident that by a fairly large majority most Americans never heard of him.

Nevertheless, we are living at a time when the rich are getting richer while the average standard of living declines. This has never happened in the United States before. Income inequality increased during the last quarter of the nineteenth century and during the 1920's, but most Americans advanced somewhat economically. This is no longer happening.

While those on the right like to repeat the cliche that "Socialism has failed in every country where it has been tried," the Social Democratic economies of Scandinavia and the British Commonwealth have responded better to the Great Recession than the American economy. Democratic socialism exists nowhere, but Social Democracy is its closest approximation.

Therefore it should surprise no one that socialism is becoming more popular in the United States. Socialism is a movement that is waiting to happen. All it needs is the appearance of a charismatic political leader of genius.

The rise of a socialist party is not necessary. I do not want such a party to compete with the Democratic Party. It is already the case that over half of Democratic voters favor socialism. When democratic Socialism becomes a popular ideal in the United States the Democratic Party can establish it.

This is the future Michael Harrington envisioned in his book, Toward a Democratic Left, which was published in 1968.

 

[American_Jihad]

How Textbooks Push Children to the Left​

August 16, 2013 By Jeff Ludwig

Are you surprised that leftist ideas have penetrated the minds of the people? Chalk up this reality to the leftist teachers and, especially, to the left-oriented textbooks now in use in our secondary schools. One book in particular that has been gaining traction in New York City in recent years is “The Americans.”

Although even the leftist teachers claim not to like this textbook used in U.S. history (a one-year course required in NYC for all juniors) because it is so skimpy on facts and is written in an opaque style, any informed reader would have to agree that it is one of the most politically correct textbooks one could imagine. Reading this book, one gets the message that the history of America is a theme of victimization. The list of victims is well known: Native Americans, women, labor, immigrants, blacks, farmers, urban dwellers, the mentally ill, migrant workers, unions, etc. “The Americans” is a somewhat diluted version of Howard Zinn’s openly communist college textbook, “A People’s History of the United States.” It is also worth adding that this reference to Zinn’s “communism” is not putting labels on anyone, and is not a McCarthy-like type of red-baiting of an innocent individual; Zinn openly announced his communism decades ago when he taught at Boston University.

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The skewed and distorted information and disinformation in “The Americans” is too extensive in over 1,000 pages to catalogue completely in this article. However, it reflects a mindset that is not unique to this volume. This textbook represents a besetting ignorance as well as congeries of biases that are epidemic in our country and disrupting the minds of the people.

How Textbooks Push Children to the Left | FrontPage Magazine

 

[jasonnfree]

How Textbooks Push Children to the Left​

August 16, 2013 By Jeff Ludwig

Are you surprised that leftist ideas have penetrated the minds of the people? Chalk up this reality to the leftist teachers and, especially, to the left-oriented textbooks now in use in our secondary schools. One book in particular that has been gaining traction in New York City in recent years is “The Americans.”

Although even the leftist teachers claim not to like this textbook used in U.S. history (a one-year course required in NYC for all juniors) because it is so skimpy on facts and is written in an opaque style, any informed reader would have to agree that it is one of the most politically correct textbooks one could imagine. Reading this book, one gets the message that the history of America is a theme of victimization. The list of victims is well known: Native Americans, women, labor, immigrants, blacks, farmers, urban dwellers, the mentally ill, migrant workers, unions, etc. “The Americans” is a somewhat diluted version of Howard Zinn’s openly communist college textbook, “A People’s History of the United States.” It is also worth adding that this reference to Zinn’s “communism” is not putting labels on anyone, and is not a McCarthy-like type of red-baiting of an innocent individual; Zinn openly announced his communism decades ago when he taught at Boston University.

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The skewed and distorted information and disinformation in “The Americans” is too extensive in over 1,000 pages to catalogue completely in this article. However, it reflects a mindset that is not unique to this volume. This textbook represents a besetting ignorance as well as congeries of biases that are epidemic in our country and disrupting the minds of the people.

How Textbooks Push Children to the Left | FrontPage Magazine

I read Zinn's book and didn't see any lies in it. If we are becoming more and more socialist it means republicans will win fewer elections. Great news.

 

[regent]

Absolutely, there were no socialists before we created government schools. Now with government schools they are underfoot everywhere. The only ones in America that are not socialists are those that did not attend government schools. Come to think of it that wouldn't be too many, maybe we better change the reason a little to socialists are created if they live near a government school. Better?

 

[American_Jihad]

Common Core’s Little Green Soldiers​

March 4, 2014 by Mary Grabar

Remember the children singing praise songs to Obama back in 2008? Remember young teenage boys marching in formation and shouting out thanks to Obama for their promising futures?

The appointment of Arne Duncan as Secretary of Education initially was seen as a savvy bipartisan move. But under his watch the Department of Education has become a propaganda arm used to influence the next generation to accept the idea of catastrophic man-made climate change as per the UN, the Environmental Protection Agency, and such groups as the National Wildlife Federation.

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“Human impacts on Earth systems” are huge topics, when approached legitimately. They present quandaries to scientists at the top levels. Yet NGSS imposes them on kindergartners. The objective, of course, is not teaching legitimate science, but indoctrination.

Amazingly, ten states have already voluntarily adopted the Standards.

Such efforts, coordinated by the Department of Education, threaten the future of science itself.

Common Core?s Little Green Soldiers | FrontPage Magazine

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