GOP wants Hawaii to break "state law" over Obama

[The T]

And there ARE larger issues facing this nation...

Deos it begin and end with

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Possibly. Oh wait.......







POSSIBLY.

 

[gekaap]

Governor Abercrombie ran on the promise that he'd show everyone Obamas' B.C. but after he was elected he ran away screaming!

"I can't find it!" he said!

But I'm sure Obama will put all these rumors to rest by just showing everyone his B.C. real soon. Yep. Now it's coming out that Obamas' real name might be Steve Dunham, based on the Social Security number he got from Connecticut.

The plot thickens as Liberal heads explode!

Did you even read the article? Obama has already released his birth certificate. You're staring at a horse and yelling "WOLF!"

 

[Harry Dresden]

jesus, like the rightwingloons aren't enough...

yep....you can always count on Dean to play the "Leftwingloon" role......its a balance.....

 

[bodecea]

From the link

As the top Hawaiian official in charge of state health records in 2008, when the issue of Obama's birth first arose, Fukino said she thought she had put the matter to rest. Contacted by NBC, Fukino expanded on previous public statements and made two key points when asked about Trump's recent comments.

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

Her second point — one she made repeatedly in the interview — is that the shorter, computer generated "certification of live birth" that was obtained by the Obama campaign in 2007 and has since been publicly released is the standard document that anybody requesting their birth certificate from the state of Hawaii would receive from the health department.

The document was distributed to the Obama campaign in 2007 after Obama, at the request of a campaign official, personally signed a Hawaii birth certificate request form downloaded on the Internet, according to a former campaign official who asked for anonymity. ...

Hawaiian officials say that the certification is, in fact, only one piece of abundant evidence of Obama's birth in Hawaii. Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general's office, noted that a public index of vital records, available for inspection in a bound volume at the Health Department's Office of Health Status Monitoring, lists a male child named "Obama II, Barack Hussein" as having been born in the state.

In addition, as Factcheck.org and other media organizations have repeatedly pointed out, both of Honolulu's newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961, and the Honolulu Star Bulletin, on Aug. 14, 1961, both ran birth announcements listing Obama's birth on Aug. 4 of that year.

Even Fukino accepts that her comments are not likely to end the matter for the die-hard birthers. Trump and other skeptics have questioned why the original birth certificate has not been released.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

Can we puh-leeze stop talking about this nonsense and discuss something even remotely meaningful.

You know they can't....thus this becomes very important to them.

 

[Toro]

I'm actually much more interested in seeing Boiking's transcripts from Columbia and Harvard.

Ah, so your one of those intelligent Schoolers.

This is just funny stuff here. I heard there are shoe lacers, sox color uh ers, ear waxers as well as burfers and schoolers out there.

Good luck with all this deniers. Get over it, He won in 2008 and will win again in 2012.

Keep trying though.

God, I hope not. He's getting us into more wars than Bush Jr....

Really? W "got" us into two wars, Obama one that I know of. Did I miss something? Did we invade someone else and I wasn't paying attention?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

For R Dean, this thread counts as one of the times of the day when a broken clock is correct.

 

[xsited1]

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

"Why would a Republican governor — who was stumping for the other guy — hold out on a big secret?" she asked.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com

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This man has been slandered and put through the wringer by Republicans who have no respect for Obama's family, for minorities, for the law. Hell, the GOP tricked America into war and hid the cost. Is there anything they won't do? It's because they feel they are "moral" and "patriotic" that the rules don't apply to them. Republicans are an embarrassment to the US.

If the BC is in a bound volume, let the birthers choose one person to go and inspect it and report back.

What part of "against the law" you didn't understand?

My apologies. I forgot that you are supposed to follow the law without question and never, ever doubt your leaders.

 

[Toro]

If the BC is in a bound volume, let the birthers choose one person to go and inspect it and report back.

Only if you guys pick Orly Taitz. She'll make you proud!

 

[xsited1]

If the BC is in a bound volume, let the birthers choose one person to go and inspect it and report back.

Only if you guys pick Orly Taitz. She'll make you proud!

Her name even sounds dirty!

 

[Toro]

if the bc is in a bound volume, let the birthers choose one person to go and inspect it and report back.

only if you guys pick orly taitz. She'll make you proud!

her name even sounds dirty!

bad images! Bad images! Aaaauuuugggghhh!!!!

 

[Againsheila]

Ah, so your one of those intelligent Schoolers.

This is just funny stuff here. I heard there are shoe lacers, sox color uh ers, ear waxers as well as burfers and schoolers out there.

Good luck with all this deniers. Get over it, He won in 2008 and will win again in 2012.

Keep trying though.

God, I hope not. He's getting us into more wars than Bush Jr....

Really? W "got" us into two wars, Obama one that I know of. Did I miss something? Did we invade someone else and I wasn't paying attention?

Libya, Egypt, Afghanistan...yeah, I know Jr got us into Afghanistan but Obama is keeping us there.

 

[Charles_Main]

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

"Why would a Republican governor — who was stumping for the other guy — hold out on a big secret?" she asked.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com

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This man has been slandered and put through the wringer by Republicans who have no respect for Obama's family, for minorities, for the law. Hell, the GOP tricked America into war and hid the cost. Is there anything they won't do? It's because they feel they are "moral" and "patriotic" that the rules don't apply to them. Republicans are an embarrassment to the US.

So translated what you are saying is you care about Hawaii State law, but not so much about the Federal Law that requires you be a natural Born Citizen to be president.

I still give Obama the Benefit of the Doubt on this issue. But more and more I have to wonder, Where is the long form birth Certificate.

 

[Charles_Main]

God, I hope not. He's getting us into more wars than Bush Jr....

Really? W "got" us into two wars, Obama one that I know of. Did I miss something? Did we invade someone else and I wasn't paying attention?

Libya, Egypt, Afghanistan...yeah, I know Jr got us into Afghanistan but Obama is keeping us there.

Don't forget that Obama has stepped up drone attacks into Pakistan!

 

[Mad Scientist]

I'm actually much more interested in seeing Boiking's transcripts from Columbia and Harvard.

Yea, me too. We already know Harvard is sleezy. They jumped unqualified Bush over thousands more qualified because of "daddy's connections". How dishonest can you be?

Apparently Harvard accepted Barry Soetoro after the Saudi's made a big donation (Known these days as an endowment) to them and bankrolled his education. Could that be why be bows to them during state visits?

Did you know that Barry spent 8 months in Pakistan "visiting a friend" that many suspect was his gay lover? Other stories say that he was a drug mule. Who knows, the "most transparent President" in history aint coming clean anytime soon, that's why we need an investigation.

Google "Larry Sinclair" and educate yourself.

 

[Qball]

Has it struck anybody that for all of the Left's mocking and chiding about birtherism and adamantly denying any truth to it whatsoever...they seem to be the only ones still talking about it?

It almost provokes a "chicken or the egg" type conundrum. What came first: the belief in birtherism by some right-wing loons, or the Left's obsession with birtherism?

This is how scurrilous rumors work. First, somebody starts this rumor (a Hillary Clinton supporter, a fact that is almost always left out of these stories), conservatives mostly shrug it off, liberals clamor to dissect the many ways it's nonsense. Then, liberals keep bringing it up because their entire M.O. is to make the American Right look like crazed, tin-foil-hat-wearing, anti-government conspiracy theorists for, you know, not wanting to be forced to buy health insurance or thinking the 2nd amendment is as important as made up rights like abortion...you know, nutty bullshit like that.

So, when a few conservatives then say, "well, maybe there's something to this rumor if liberals are still talking about it and Obama refuses to release his actual birth certificate", which causes liberals to say, "see?! see?! We told you! They're all birthers! They're crazy! They're extreme! They're scary! They hate Obama because he's black!"

So now, the liberal media continues to bug everybody over this all while being surprised by it's continued relevance. It's the same thing they've done with Sarah Palin. Every national paper has to do a story on her every time she scratches her ass, and then accuse conservatives of being obsessively in love with her. Of course, that's to give them some validity to continue obsessing over her because she's a welcome distraction from Obama.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: when you make a big deal about something, don't be surprised when it becomes a big deal.

 

[Toro]

Has it struck anybody that for all of the Left's mocking and chiding about birtherism and adamantly denying any truth to it whatsoever...they seem to be the only ones still talking about it?

Are you f****** joking?

 

[Toro]

God, I hope not. He's getting us into more wars than Bush Jr....

Really? W "got" us into two wars, Obama one that I know of. Did I miss something? Did we invade someone else and I wasn't paying attention?

Libya, Egypt, Afghanistan...yeah, I know Jr got us into Afghanistan but Obama is keeping us there.

Excuse me, what military operations are being conducted in Egypt? I missed that one.

 

[8537]

I'm actually much more interested in seeing Boiking's transcripts from Columbia and Harvard.

Yea, me too. We already know Harvard is sleezy. They jumped unqualified Bush over thousands more qualified because of "daddy's connections". How dishonest can you be?

Apparently Harvard accepted Barry Soetoro after the Saudi's made a big donation (Known these days as an endowment) to them and bankrolled his education. Could that be why be bows to them during state visits?

Did you know that Barry spent 8 months in Pakistan "visiting a friend" that many suspect was his gay lover? Other stories say that he was a drug mule. Who knows, the "most transparent President" in history aint coming clean anytime soon, that's why we need an investigation.

Google "Larry Sinclair" and educate yourself.

The Faurce is strong with this one!

 

[Qball]

Has it struck anybody that for all of the Left's mocking and chiding about birtherism and adamantly denying any truth to it whatsoever...they seem to be the only ones still talking about it?

Are you f****** joking?

No. The left, quite generally and with Obama in particular, tends to try and drum up victimhood where there is none. That's why irrelevant shit like how ethnically diverse the Tea Party movement is, and how many of a meager few are birthers, keeps getting trundled out every few weeks.

 

[Toro]

Has it struck anybody that for all of the Left's mocking and chiding about birtherism and adamantly denying any truth to it whatsoever...they seem to be the only ones still talking about it?

Are you f****** joking?

No. The left, quite generally and with Obama in particular, tends to try and drum up victimhood where there is none. That's why irrelevant shit like how ethnically diverse the Tea Party movement is, and how many of a meager few are birthers, keeps getting trundled out every few weeks.

Are you serious?

Donald Trump is all over the news media and polling at 20% in the primaries while more than a dozen states tried or are still trying to pass birfer laws, and its the Left that is keeping this issue alive?

rofl

Outstanding!

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...ly-republican-primary-voters-are-birfers.html