Good Thing These Guys Had Guns, if They Were in a Country Like Great Britain...

[Lewdog]

They did not "kill each other over road rage".

The guy that was cut off killed the Marine over road rage. The Marine killed the other guy for shooting him.

You just said exactly what I said. The underlying cause was road rage.

The Marine was not in a state of road rage, as you implied. Only the initial shooter.

No, I simply stated that the series of events was triggered by road rage. If you have decent reading comprehension skills you would be able to see that. The Marine cut the other driver off. When he thought he was in the wrong, he got out of his car to walk towards the other car... He said he was doing so to apologize. The other driver had no clue why he was he got out in the middle of the street to walk towards his car. The murderer can't read minds, how did he know he was coming to apologize and not beat the shit out of him?

Speaking of comprehension, here is your sentence.

"They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage."

Yes. Road rage caused the Black guy to shoot the Marine who had stopped his car at a light and GOTTEN OUT OF HIS CAR AND APPROACHED the Black Guy. The Black guy shot him, and the Marine shot him back. They killed each other over a road rage incident.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

They did not "kill each other over road rage".

The guy that was cut off killed the Marine over road rage. The Marine killed the other guy for shooting him.

You just said exactly what I said. The underlying cause was road rage.

The Marine was not in a state of road rage, as you implied. Only the initial shooter.

No, I simply stated that the series of events was triggered by road rage. If you have decent reading comprehension skills you would be able to see that. The Marine cut the other driver off. When he thought he was in the wrong, he got out of his car to walk towards the other car... He said he was doing so to apologize. The other driver had no clue why he was he got out in the middle of the street to walk towards his car. The murderer can't read minds, how did he know he was coming to apologize and not beat the shit out of him?

There you go, defending the black murderer again.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

They did not "kill each other over road rage".

The guy that was cut off killed the Marine over road rage. The Marine killed the other guy for shooting him.

You just said exactly what I said. The underlying cause was road rage.

The Marine was not in a state of road rage, as you implied. Only the initial shooter.

No, I simply stated that the series of events was triggered by road rage. If you have decent reading comprehension skills you would be able to see that. The Marine cut the other driver off. When he thought he was in the wrong, he got out of his car to walk towards the other car... He said he was doing so to apologize. The other driver had no clue why he was he got out in the middle of the street to walk towards his car. The murderer can't read minds, how did he know he was coming to apologize and not beat the shit out of him?

Speaking of comprehension, here is your sentence.

"They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage."

Yes. Road rage caused the Black guy to shoot the Marine who had stopped his car at a light and GOTTEN OUT OF HIS CAR AND APPROACHED the Black Guy. The Black guy shot him, and the Marine shot him back. They killed each other over a road rage incident.

Your obtuseness will become legendary.

 

[Godboy]

They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage.

"Keith Byrne was trying to do the right thing. After the Marine Corps veteran accidentally cut off another car, he was ready to apologize at the next light.

Before he could, a passenger got out of the cut-off car and shot him square in the chest.

The mortally wounded Byrne, 41, was also prepared to fight back. With his own gun, he fired two shots at 22-year-old Andre Sinclair, and Sinclair died of his injuries at the hospital two days later. Byrne died on scene."

He wanted to apologize for cutting off another driver. It turned into a deadly shootout.

Your mad that the victim was able to avenge his own murder?

Funny that is how you think mu post was written for... when it wasn't at all. If they weren't out carrying guns one of the guys might have ended up with a black eye, not in the morgue.

Sure, if the criminal who doesnt obey gun laws didnt use his illegal firearm to shoot a marine, then there wouldnt have been a problem. If the marine with his legally permitted firearm didnt have it when he was shot, the murderer would have gotten away.

The point is, gun laws only hurt law abiding citizens. Fortunately this marine wasnt in one of your gun grabbing cities, like chicago.

 

[Godboy]

They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage.

"Keith Byrne was trying to do the right thing. After the Marine Corps veteran accidentally cut off another car, he was ready to apologize at the next light.

Before he could, a passenger got out of the cut-off car and shot him square in the chest.

The mortally wounded Byrne, 41, was also prepared to fight back. With his own gun, he fired two shots at 22-year-old Andre Sinclair, and Sinclair died of his injuries at the hospital two days later. Byrne died on scene."

He wanted to apologize for cutting off another driver. It turned into a deadly shootout.

Or they could have died years ago due to the lack of being adequately able to defend themselves from a different attacker.

Your Straw Man works both ways.

It's not meant to be super serious... but more a parody of the hundreds of post made by the resident gun nutter 2aguy who takes every crime and tries to twist it into a way to support gun ownership.

They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage.

"Keith Byrne was trying to do the right thing. After the Marine Corps veteran accidentally cut off another car, he was ready to apologize at the next light.

Before he could, a passenger got out of the cut-off car and shot him square in the chest.

The mortally wounded Byrne, 41, was also prepared to fight back. With his own gun, he fired two shots at 22-year-old Andre Sinclair, and Sinclair died of his injuries at the hospital two days later. Byrne died on scene."

He wanted to apologize for cutting off another driver. It turned into a deadly shootout.

Your mad that the victim was able to avenge his own murder?

A black guy was killed. Of course he/she/it is

This is pretty funny. So the resident militant Black poster thinks I'm racist against Blacks, and one of the biggest white pride posters thinks I'm racist against whites. I must be doing something right.

No, youre only racist towards whites. Youll even defend criminals, as long as they are black.

 

[miketx]

How about a more accurate Op:

Vicious road raging negro,likely illegally armed and with a long record, murders hero Marine over a minor traffic incident.

Funny that is how you think mu post was written for... when it wasn't at all. If they weren't out carrying guns one of the guys might have ended up with a black eye, not in the morgue.

Ridiculous, the murderer already had to black eyes by nature. Now if the law had of worked this pos never would have been on the streets.

 

[2aguy]

They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage.

"Keith Byrne was trying to do the right thing. After the Marine Corps veteran accidentally cut off another car, he was ready to apologize at the next light.

Before he could, a passenger got out of the cut-off car and shot him square in the chest.

The mortally wounded Byrne, 41, was also prepared to fight back. With his own gun, he fired two shots at 22-year-old Andre Sinclair, and Sinclair died of his injuries at the hospital two days later. Byrne died on scene."

He wanted to apologize for cutting off another driver. It turned into a deadly shootout.

why couldn't it happen in Britain? The British police have stated that they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into the country, and they have armed robberies all the time......

 

[2aguy]

They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage.

"Keith Byrne was trying to do the right thing. After the Marine Corps veteran accidentally cut off another car, he was ready to apologize at the next light.

Before he could, a passenger got out of the cut-off car and shot him square in the chest.

The mortally wounded Byrne, 41, was also prepared to fight back. With his own gun, he fired two shots at 22-year-old Andre Sinclair, and Sinclair died of his injuries at the hospital two days later. Byrne died on scene."

He wanted to apologize for cutting off another driver. It turned into a deadly shootout.

Your mad that the victim was able to avenge his own murder?

Funny that is how you think mu post was written for... when it wasn't at all. If they weren't out carrying guns one of the guys might have ended up with a black eye, not in the morgue.

And yet, in America, Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives....stopping rapes, robberies and murders....... when you can catch up to that number, get back to us....

Meanwhile, as more Americans own and carry guns.......the following points blow a hole in your thread....

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage.

"Keith Byrne was trying to do the right thing. After the Marine Corps veteran accidentally cut off another car, he was ready to apologize at the next light.

Before he could, a passenger got out of the cut-off car and shot him square in the chest.

The mortally wounded Byrne, 41, was also prepared to fight back. With his own gun, he fired two shots at 22-year-old Andre Sinclair, and Sinclair died of his injuries at the hospital two days later. Byrne died on scene."

He wanted to apologize for cutting off another driver. It turned into a deadly shootout.

In Britain, only the victim gets murdered in road rage incidents......the killer lives.....

This is the best outcome for gun grabbers like lewdog...the victim is murdered. lewdog prefers the victim die, hopefully quietly and without any fuss.....rather than having a chance to stop the murder with a gun....rapes too, lewdog's preference is that woman quietly submit to the rape, than having the choice to stop the violent rape with a gun....

Funny which side lewdog takes in a violent criminal attack.....isn't it?

Man held over death of Nottingham man in suspected road rage incident

A 21-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of a father of two in a suspected road rage incident in Nottingham.

Police said that Stephen Walsh, 37, was driving his Lexus car when he was involved in a collision on Newstead Avenue in Mapperley, north-east Nottingham, between 10pm and 10.30pm on Sunday.

He did not stop and instead drove home to nearby Blenheim Avenue. Officers believe he was followed by the driver of the other vehicle in the collision and was assaulted, sustaining head injuries.

Police said the man then left, saying he would return the next day to exchange insurance details, but Walsh was found dead at around 5.55am the next morning. A postmortem examination was carried out on Monday and an initial report found that Walsh died of head injuries.

 

[2aguy]

They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage.

"Keith Byrne was trying to do the right thing. After the Marine Corps veteran accidentally cut off another car, he was ready to apologize at the next light.

Before he could, a passenger got out of the cut-off car and shot him square in the chest.

The mortally wounded Byrne, 41, was also prepared to fight back. With his own gun, he fired two shots at 22-year-old Andre Sinclair, and Sinclair died of his injuries at the hospital two days later. Byrne died on scene."

He wanted to apologize for cutting off another driver. It turned into a deadly shootout.

If teenagers have access to guns in Britain...why couldn't it happen there? The teen was killed in a car park? So....why couldn't he also have been shot in a road rage incident?

Two teenagers killed within minutes in broad daylight in south London

Two teenagers were killed in separate attacks in south London within minutes of each other this afternoon.

The first was stabbed on Deeside Road, Wandsworth, at 4.42pm on Friday. He died a short time later.

The second teen was shot dead in a car park in Plumstead shortly before 5pm.

Scotland Yard later confirmed three men and a woman had been arrested on suspicion of murder following the shooting. They have been taken to police stations for questioning.

 

[Lewdog]

They did not "kill each other over road rage".

The guy that was cut off killed the Marine over road rage. The Marine killed the other guy for shooting him.

You just said exactly what I said. The underlying cause was road rage.

The Marine was not in a state of road rage, as you implied. Only the initial shooter.

No, I simply stated that the series of events was triggered by road rage. If you have decent reading comprehension skills you would be able to see that. The Marine cut the other driver off. When he thought he was in the wrong, he got out of his car to walk towards the other car... He said he was doing so to apologize. The other driver had no clue why he was he got out in the middle of the street to walk towards his car. The murderer can't read minds, how did he know he was coming to apologize and not beat the shit out of him?

There you go, defending the black murderer again.

I'm not defending anyone, but I guarantee if you were driving a car and a black guy the size of the Marine got out of the car in front of you and started walking towards your car, you sure as hell wouldn't think he was coming to apologize to you.

 

[Lewdog]

They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage.

"Keith Byrne was trying to do the right thing. After the Marine Corps veteran accidentally cut off another car, he was ready to apologize at the next light.

Before he could, a passenger got out of the cut-off car and shot him square in the chest.

The mortally wounded Byrne, 41, was also prepared to fight back. With his own gun, he fired two shots at 22-year-old Andre Sinclair, and Sinclair died of his injuries at the hospital two days later. Byrne died on scene."

He wanted to apologize for cutting off another driver. It turned into a deadly shootout.

Or they could have died years ago due to the lack of being adequately able to defend themselves from a different attacker.

Your Straw Man works both ways.

It's not meant to be super serious... but more a parody of the hundreds of post made by the resident gun nutter 2aguy who takes every crime and tries to twist it into a way to support gun ownership.

They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage.

"Keith Byrne was trying to do the right thing. After the Marine Corps veteran accidentally cut off another car, he was ready to apologize at the next light.

Before he could, a passenger got out of the cut-off car and shot him square in the chest.

The mortally wounded Byrne, 41, was also prepared to fight back. With his own gun, he fired two shots at 22-year-old Andre Sinclair, and Sinclair died of his injuries at the hospital two days later. Byrne died on scene."

He wanted to apologize for cutting off another driver. It turned into a deadly shootout.

Your mad that the victim was able to avenge his own murder?

A black guy was killed. Of course he/she/it is

This is pretty funny. So the resident militant Black poster thinks I'm racist against Blacks, and one of the biggest white pride posters thinks I'm racist against whites. I must be doing something right.

No, youre only racist towards whites. Youll even defend criminals, as long as they are black.

I am? I'd love to see proof. Defending a criminal? How did he know the man that stopped his car and got out in the middle of the road, was walking back to apologize to him? I guarantee if things were reversed a Black guy the size of that Marine stopped his car in front of you and got out and started walking towards your car, you wouldn't think he was coming to apologize... but then again you think all Black people are thugs and criminals. Well guess what, there are a lot of Black people think all white guys hate Blacks and want to hurt them... because of people like you. Hate begets hate.

 

[Lewdog]

You just said exactly what I said. The underlying cause was road rage.

The Marine was not in a state of road rage, as you implied. Only the initial shooter.

No, I simply stated that the series of events was triggered by road rage. If you have decent reading comprehension skills you would be able to see that. The Marine cut the other driver off. When he thought he was in the wrong, he got out of his car to walk towards the other car... He said he was doing so to apologize. The other driver had no clue why he was he got out in the middle of the street to walk towards his car. The murderer can't read minds, how did he know he was coming to apologize and not beat the shit out of him?

Speaking of comprehension, here is your sentence.

"They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage."

Yes. Road rage caused the Black guy to shoot the Marine who had stopped his car at a light and GOTTEN OUT OF HIS CAR AND APPROACHED the Black Guy. The Black guy shot him, and the Marine shot him back. They killed each other over a road rage incident.

Your obtuseness will become legendary.

I doubt you even know what that word means. The whole series of events stemmed off of the Marine cutting the other guy off in traffic, which caused the road rage. Was the Black guy in the wrong for shooting the Marine? Abso-fucking-lutely. Was the Marine not thinking when he stopped his car to get out and approach the man he just cut off in traffic? Probably so... unfortunately we live in a country full of people who are packing guns and have a twitchy trigger because people are getting overly upset about the littlest things. A man shot and killed a neighbor over a parking spot, and no the shooter wasn't Black.

NC father of 2 dies after dispute over parking

And sadly the only reason I have to point out he isn't Black... is because someone else, NOT ME, brought up the race of people in this thread... and then accused me of hating white people after he did it.

 

[2aguy]

The Marine was not in a state of road rage, as you implied. Only the initial shooter.

No, I simply stated that the series of events was triggered by road rage. If you have decent reading comprehension skills you would be able to see that. The Marine cut the other driver off. When he thought he was in the wrong, he got out of his car to walk towards the other car... He said he was doing so to apologize. The other driver had no clue why he was he got out in the middle of the street to walk towards his car. The murderer can't read minds, how did he know he was coming to apologize and not beat the shit out of him?

Speaking of comprehension, here is your sentence.

"They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage."

Yes. Road rage caused the Black guy to shoot the Marine who had stopped his car at a light and GOTTEN OUT OF HIS CAR AND APPROACHED the Black Guy. The Black guy shot him, and the Marine shot him back. They killed each other over a road rage incident.

Your obtuseness will become legendary.

I doubt you even know what that word means. The whole series of events stemmed off of the Marine cutting the other guy off in traffic, which caused the road rage. Was the Black guy in the wrong for shooting the Marine? Abso-fucking-lutely. Was the Marine not thinking when he stopped his car to get out and approach the man he just cut off in traffic? Probably so... unfortunately we live in a country full of people who are packing guns and have a twitchy trigger because people are getting overly upset about the littlest things. A man shot and killed a neighbor over a parking spot, and no the shooter wasn't Black.

NC father of 2 dies after dispute over parking

And sadly the only reason I have to point out he isn't Black... is because someone else, NOT ME, brought up the race of people in this thread... and then accused me of hating white people after he did it.

unfortunately we live in a country full of people who are packing guns and have a twitchy trigger because people are getting overly upset about the littlest things.


Sorry, actual facts show you are wrong....More Americans with more guns and our gun murder rate is down 49%.....how do you explain that? More Americans with more guns, our gun crime rate is down....how do you explain that? More Americans, more guns, violent crime is also down, how do you explain that?

You can't. You hate guns, so you make up lies about guns and gun owners to push your agenda...

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[Godboy]

Or they could have died years ago due to the lack of being adequately able to defend themselves from a different attacker.

Your Straw Man works both ways.

It's not meant to be super serious... but more a parody of the hundreds of post made by the resident gun nutter 2aguy who takes every crime and tries to twist it into a way to support gun ownership.

They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage.

"Keith Byrne was trying to do the right thing. After the Marine Corps veteran accidentally cut off another car, he was ready to apologize at the next light.

Before he could, a passenger got out of the cut-off car and shot him square in the chest.

The mortally wounded Byrne, 41, was also prepared to fight back. With his own gun, he fired two shots at 22-year-old Andre Sinclair, and Sinclair died of his injuries at the hospital two days later. Byrne died on scene."

He wanted to apologize for cutting off another driver. It turned into a deadly shootout.

Your mad that the victim was able to avenge his own murder?

A black guy was killed. Of course he/she/it is

This is pretty funny. So the resident militant Black poster thinks I'm racist against Blacks, and one of the biggest white pride posters thinks I'm racist against whites. I must be doing something right.

No, youre only racist towards whites. Youll even defend criminals, as long as they are black.

I am? I'd love to see proof. Defending a criminal? How did he know the man that stopped his car and got out in the middle of the road, was walking back to apologize to him? I guarantee if things were reversed a Black guy the size of that Marine stopped his car in front of you and got out and started walking towards your car, you wouldn't think he was coming to apologize... but then again you think all Black people are thugs and criminals. Well guess what, there are a lot of Black people think all white guys hate Blacks and want to hurt them... because of people like you. Hate begets hate.

"Sinclair got out of his girlfriend’s blue BMW displaying his gun and was heading for Byrne, who was still inside his air-conditioning work truck."

The black guy was a criminal (as usual), yet youre here trying to suggest he had a good reason to kill a man. Quit defending black criminals. Also, could you guys maybe for once actually know the details of one of these stories, before you lose control of your emotions? Your communities ignorance with this stuff is getting tiresome.

 

[Lewdog]

It's not meant to be super serious... but more a parody of the hundreds of post made by the resident gun nutter 2aguy who takes every crime and tries to twist it into a way to support gun ownership.

Your mad that the victim was able to avenge his own murder?

A black guy was killed. Of course he/she/it is

This is pretty funny. So the resident militant Black poster thinks I'm racist against Blacks, and one of the biggest white pride posters thinks I'm racist against whites. I must be doing something right.

No, youre only racist towards whites. Youll even defend criminals, as long as they are black.

I am? I'd love to see proof. Defending a criminal? How did he know the man that stopped his car and got out in the middle of the road, was walking back to apologize to him? I guarantee if things were reversed a Black guy the size of that Marine stopped his car in front of you and got out and started walking towards your car, you wouldn't think he was coming to apologize... but then again you think all Black people are thugs and criminals. Well guess what, there are a lot of Black people think all white guys hate Blacks and want to hurt them... because of people like you. Hate begets hate.

"Sinclair got out of his girlfriend’s blue BMW displaying his gun and was heading for Byrne, who was still inside his air-conditioning work truck."

The black guy was a criminal (as usual), yet youre here trying to suggest he had a good reason to kill a man. Quit defending black criminals. Also, could you guys maybe for once actually know the details of one of these stories, before you lose control of your emotions? Your communities ignorance with this stuff is getting tiresome.

I'm not the one that brought up color in this thread or any other thread. Quit accusing all Black people of being criminals, along with so many people like you, many of whom are in this thread, and a lot more Black people won't feel so defensive that they end up doing things to try and defend themselves proactively.

Don't try to project your racism on me, that's your issue. As already said in this thread, I was accused by IM2 of being racist against Blacks. I'm mostly white... with 1.2% West African, 65% British and Irish, 5.2% Scandinavian, and among the other things Congolese & Southern East African 0.2%.

So you can call me a defender of "Black criminals" day and night and it won't make it true. The only person you should be looking at is the person in the mirror. The first person to bring up race in this thread was one of your buddies Death Angel.

 

[Godboy]

I'm not the one that brought up color in this thread or any other thread. Quit accusing all Black people of being criminals, along with so many people like you, many of whom are in this thread, and a lot more Black people won't feel so defensive that they end up doing things to try and defend themselves proactively.

Don't try to project your racism on me, that's your issue. As already said in this thread, I was accused by IM2 of being racist against Blacks. I'm mostly white... with 1.2% West African, 65% British and Irish, 5.2% Scandinavian, and among the other things Congolese & Southern East African 0.2%.

So you can call me a defender of "Black criminals" day and night and it won't make it true. The only person you should be looking at is the person in the mirror. The first person to bring up race in this thread was one of your buddies Death Angel.

There you go defending black criminals again. Byrn was just sitting in his car. Your black criminal buddy had no reason to "feel defensive and defend himself proactively". He simply murdered a man for no reason, and youre defending his actions.

 

[Uncensored2008]

They'd both probably still be alive, and not killed each other over something as dumb as road rage.

"Keith Byrne was trying to do the right thing. After the Marine Corps veteran accidentally cut off another car, he was ready to apologize at the next light.

Before he could, a passenger got out of the cut-off car and shot him square in the chest.

The mortally wounded Byrne, 41, was also prepared to fight back. With his own gun, he fired two shots at 22-year-old Andre Sinclair, and Sinclair died of his injuries at the hospital two days later. Byrne died on scene."

He wanted to apologize for cutting off another driver. It turned into a deadly shootout.

So the black guy murdered the Marine, but you cry that the Marine shot back?

You really are a pile of shit, Lewd.

 

[Uncensored2008]

They did not "kill each other over road rage".

The guy that was cut off killed the Marine over road rage. The Marine killed the other guy for shooting him.

Remember: Next time Lewd tells the truth about anything will be the first time.

 

[Lewdog]

I already said in this thread he was wrong. Of course you skipped over that part didn't you?