TakeAStepBack
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What about open and transparency of government? No signing statements? No lobbyists in the administration? Upholding the constitution?
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What are the big promises kept?
Well he promised to revamp health care and although I think ObamaCare sucks big time, he did keep his promise.
He promised to shift the focus from Iraq to Afghanistan until he found the people who were actually responsible for 9/11 and rained justice down upon them. He did EXACTLY that. Getting OBL was cool too!
He promised to repeal DADT. That was huge.
He promised to get us out of Iraq. That's huge.
He promised to close Git-Mo and by gosh he sure tried. So I give him credit for that, even the the GOP shut him down on it.
Those are just the ones that come to mind off the top of my head.
Keep in mind, I still think he sucks but I'm not a drone so I have no problem with acknowledging the stuff he does right.
Obamacare, sure. Whatever you believe about its effectiveness.
The shift out of Iraq was more or less mandatory at the time of withdrawal. No points awarded there. (And we are still there in a big way) That withdrawal date was scheduled by Bush and the Iraq interim govt.
Justice, under the law, was certainly not served to the criminals alleged to orchestrate 9/11. FAIL. Justice is not assassination. That's actually lawlessness in action.
Repeal of DADT. OK, but he never promised that. And it is quite minor. It affects very few.
Duplicates abound on the next one. We covered that already (and we are not out)
Gitmo is a travesty on his part. No points awarded.
Anything else?
That's your response?
Gitmo is a travesty on his part.
That's your response?
Yes. You're a drone. You've been thoroughly programmed by those who prey upon certain socio-economic and cultural inclinations. So it's not like they would allow you to see anything positive about what they have led you to believe is "The Other Side."
Arguing with you is futile because you don't even have your own thoughts. You're told to believe something and like a well-trained dog, you do as commanded.
It's okay. The majority of Americans are either the same as you or they aren't programmable because they simply don't care.
what a joke...
Streamline Government..
Did I hear it would "save" 3billion OVER Ten years...
Ah! The first predicted salvo! Okay let's hear it Steph. Why is this a bad thing?
3 billion over ten years is 300 million a year. We increase debt by 900 billion a year.
Its a joke. Its not real cuts. Its giving lip service to the true statesman who will be president in 2012 without actually doing anything.
So for three years, I've thought and posted that Obama pretty much sucks balls when it comes to his domestic agenda.
Have you actually read all of his accomplishments on the home front? If you have, I'm at a loss to understand why you would say this. Are you blaming him for the dozens of Repub-filibustered bills? It is, after all, the Republicans who have brought this country to a halt and stalled all attempts to move forward.
In case you're interested, here's another link to his accomplishments.
What the fuck has Obama done so far?
What are the big promises kept?
Well he promised to revamp health care and although I think ObamaCare sucks big time, he did keep his promise.
He promised to shift the focus from Iraq to Afghanistan until he found the people who were actually responsible for 9/11 and rained justice down upon them. He did EXACTLY that. Getting OBL was cool too!
He promised to repeal DADT. That was huge.
He promised to get us out of Iraq. That's huge.
He promised to close Git-Mo and by gosh he sure tried. So I give him credit for that, even the the GOP shut him down on it.
Those are just the ones that come to mind off the top of my head.
Keep in mind, I still think he sucks but I'm not a drone so I have no problem with acknowledging the stuff he does right.
Okay so Obama wants to streamline government. Sounds like he's finally listening to the Tea Party and Libertarians! Of course Repubs have always claimed this but usually while growing the government.
So good. Is it because it's an election year? Who gives a flick. Getting Congress to do anything useful has proven impossible. Dems and Repubs are both too busy making sure the other side looks bad, to worry about the best interest of the country. So screw 'em. This is a good thing. Of course, after having made this their mantra for years, The Right will have to find SOME way to spin this as a negative and I'm truly curious to see how they'll do it. My bet is they'll go with the election year thing but who knows? They may try to feck up the process of reducing government, just to make Obama look bad. Wouldn't that be ironic?
Another good thing? I own a small business. We are the REAL "job creators" in the USA but while the government gives tax breaks, subsidies and every bit of help from the government to companies that ship jobs overseas, we get squat.
So Obama is making SBA a cabinet level position. This is the best news in years IF, the post has any teeth and there is ever any progress in helping us. We'll see.
So for three years, I've thought and posted that Obama pretty much sucks balls when it comes to his domestic agenda.
He still does. But he's slightly less bad than he was and even though I don't think he's a good president, I can acknowledge when he does get something right. This is one of those times.
I still won't vote for him though.
What are the big promises kept?
Well he promised to revamp health care and although I think ObamaCare sucks big time, he did keep his promise.
He promised to shift the focus from Iraq to Afghanistan until he found the people who were actually responsible for 9/11 and rained justice down upon them. He did EXACTLY that. Getting OBL was cool too!
He promised to repeal DADT. That was huge.
He promised to get us out of Iraq. That's huge.
He promised to close Git-Mo and by gosh he sure tried. So I give him credit for that, even the the GOP shut him down on it.
Those are just the ones that come to mind off the top of my head.
Keep in mind, I still think he sucks but I'm not a drone so I have no problem with acknowledging the stuff he does right.
HE actually promised a single payer system, but if you want to give him credit for Obamacare I won't quibble.
He did concentrate a bit more on Afghanistan, but he is now open to negotiating with the Taliban in order to end the war, even if it means giving them power.
He did not repeal DADT. He actually fought to keep it in court, and lost.
He actually promised to bring all the troops home from Iraq by the summer of 2009, how did that work out again?
It was not the GOP that shut him down on Gitmo, it was his own party. Other than that complete lie I will agree that he gets some credit for trying.
What are the big promises kept?
Well he promised to revamp health care and although I think ObamaCare sucks big time, he did keep his promise.
He promised to shift the focus from Iraq to Afghanistan until he found the people who were actually responsible for 9/11 and rained justice down upon them. He did EXACTLY that. Getting OBL was cool too!
He promised to repeal DADT. That was huge.
He promised to get us out of Iraq. That's huge.
He promised to close Git-Mo and by gosh he sure tried. So I give him credit for that, even the the GOP shut him down on it.
Those are just the ones that come to mind off the top of my head.
Keep in mind, I still think he sucks but I'm not a drone so I have no problem with acknowledging the stuff he does right.
HE actually promised a single payer system, but if you want to give him credit for Obamacare I won't quibble.
He did concentrate a bit more on Afghanistan, but he is now open to negotiating with the Taliban in order to end the war, even if it means giving them power.
He did not repeal DADT. He actually fought to keep it in court, and lost.
He actually promised to bring all the troops home from Iraq by the summer of 2009, how did that work out again?
It was not the GOP that shut him down on Gitmo, it was his own party. Other than that complete lie I will agree that he gets some credit for trying.
Okay so Obama wants to streamline government. Sounds like he's finally listening to the Tea Party and Libertarians! Of course Repubs have always claimed this but usually while growing the government.
So good. Is it because it's an election year? Who gives a flick. Getting Congress to do anything useful has proven impossible. Dems and Repubs are both too busy making sure the other side looks bad, to worry about the best interest of the country. So screw 'em. This is a good thing. Of course, after having made this their mantra for years, The Right will have to find SOME way to spin this as a negative and I'm truly curious to see how they'll do it. My bet is they'll go with the election year thing but who knows? They may try to feck up the process of reducing government, just to make Obama look bad. Wouldn't that be ironic?
Another good thing? I own a small business. We are the REAL "job creators" in the USA but while the government gives tax breaks, subsidies and every bit of help from the government to companies that ship jobs overseas, we get squat.
So Obama is making SBA a cabinet level position. This is the best news in years IF, the post has any teeth and there is ever any progress in helping us. We'll see.
So for three years, I've thought and posted that Obama pretty much sucks balls when it comes to his domestic agenda.
He still does. But he's slightly less bad than he was and even though I don't think he's a good president, I can acknowledge when he does get something right. This is one of those times.
I still won't vote for him though.
Is it because it's an election year? Who gives a flick. Getting Congress to do anything useful has proven impossible. Dems and Repubs are both too busy making sure the other side looks bad, to worry about the best interest of the country. So screw 'em. This is a good thing.
If you believe that he's serious and not just posturing, then you're a bigger rube than I had you pegged for...Which is saying something.Okay so Obama wants to streamline government. Sounds like he's finally listening to the Tea Party and Libertarians! Of course Repubs have always claimed this but usually while growing the government.
So good. Is it because it's an election year? Who gives a flick. Getting Congress to do anything useful has proven impossible. Dems and Repubs are both too busy making sure the other side looks bad, to worry about the best interest of the country. So screw 'em. This is a good thing. Of course, after having made this their mantra for years, The Right will have to find SOME way to spin this as a negative and I'm truly curious to see how they'll do it. My bet is they'll go with the election year thing but who knows? They may try to feck up the process of reducing government, just to make Obama look bad. Wouldn't that be ironic?
Another good thing? I own a small business. We are the REAL "job creators" in the USA but while the government gives tax breaks, subsidies and every bit of help from the government to companies that ship jobs overseas, we get squat.
So Obama is making SBA a cabinet level position. This is the best news in years IF, the post has any teeth and there is ever any progress in helping us. We'll see.
So for three years, I've thought and posted that Obama pretty much sucks balls when it comes to his domestic agenda.
He still does. But he's slightly less bad than he was and even though I don't think he's a good president, I can acknowledge when he does get something right. This is one of those times.
I still won't vote for him though.
As he pleads for another 1.2 Trillion in debt.what a joke...
Streamline Government..
Did I hear it would "save" 3billion OVER Ten years...
As he pleads for another 1.2 Trillion in debt.what a joke...
Streamline Government..
Did I hear it would "save" 3billion OVER Ten years...