God gave the land that is now Israel to the Jewish people

[Vrenn]

Neither the Gaza Strip or the West Bank are Israel's to give. They are occupied territories. And the only thing you can do with an occupation, is to end it.

The occupation and blockade of Gaza, is the cause of all the violence. That crap about wiping Israel out is a bunch of bullshit!

So it's all or nothing then. Fine, so the war continues forever.

 

[Billo_Really]

So it's all or nothing then. Fine, so the war continues forever.

No, why can't Israel honor IHL?

 

[Vrenn]

No, why can't Israel honor IHL?

Because they have never been force to. Let the rest of the world threaten to no longer support Israel at this rate and watch just how the get busy on cooperating with the PLO. But it goes both ways. PLO needs to cooperate with Israel.

 

[my2¢]

When one group believes they are God's chosen people through Abraham's son Isaac while another claims they're rightful heirs through Abraham's son Ishmael, you know there's going to be problems.

As for the OP's attached article, many Jews came here much the same as others did, one of those being escaping from religious persecution. Could be why many identify as Democrats, who favor keeping religion out of politics and don't go around claiming we're a Christian Nation.

 

[Woodznutz]

What exactly do you think Judaism is? It's where christianity came from a few hundred years before Islamism split off from them both. The simple fact is the the muslims are an offshoot of the same religions. you think are so great, and only a few hundred years younger.

Christianity came from a New, spiritual Covenant between man and God. Judaism doesn't recognize that covenant.

 

[Woodznutz]

When one group believes they are God's chosen people through Abraham's son Isaac while another claims they're rightful heirs through Abraham's son Ishmael, you know there's going to be problems.

Bullseye! Especially when time is running out for Muslims to "inherit" the blessings of Abraham that the descendants of Isaac have been enjoying for centuries.

 

[ActionJackson]

This article is a good read. Obviously things are not as black and white as many think. Yes Virginia, things are complicated.

---Orthodox Jews were also more likely than Jews in other denominations to say that the Israeli government was making a sincere effort to reach a peace settlement with the Palestinians and that God gave the land that is now Israel to the Jewish people. By contrast, most Jewish Americans said they did not think that either the Israeli government or Palestinian leaders were sincerely seeking peace---

U.S. Jews have widely differing views on Israel

Jewish Americans – much like the U.S. public overall – hold widely differing views on Israel and its political leadership.

www.pewresearch.org

One of the biblical prophecies for the latter days is "wars and rumors of war." War means money. Nobody in control and who stands to profit off of war wants peace. That's all smoke and mirrors.

 

[Crepitus]

Christianity came from a New, spiritual Covenant between man and God. Judaism doesn't recognize that covenant.

Same book, different page.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Yes, and then God took the land back again and gave it to the Palestinian people. It's God who decides these things .... not humans.

Bullshit

 

[Woodznutz]

Same book, different page.

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Things changed quite a bit starting with Matthew 1:1.

 

[Crepitus]

Things changed quite a bit starting with Matthew 1:1.

That's a page.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

So a book written by Jews says that God gave the land to Jews and you believe it? God just told me that you need to buy the Brooklyn Bridge from me for one billion dollars.

 

[GLASNOST]

Bullshit

God's will is bullshit?

 

[JusticeHammer]

God's will is bullshit?

No, the Palestinian part.

 

[fncceo]

Palestinians are Arabs, Arabs are immigrants, attracted to the money us Christians were spending in Israel

When Israel was created in 1948, a Palestinian meant anyone who lived in the region, Jews, Muslim, Xtian, Druze, Buddhist, or Druid.

And, the overwhelming amount of money to build the new state of Israel came from donations by overseas Jews.

 

[elektra]

When Israel was created in 1948, a Palestinian meant anyone who lived in the region, Jews, Muslim, Xtian, Druze, Buddhist, or Druid.

And, the overwhelming amount of money to build the new state of Israel came from donations by overseas Jews.

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after world war II, the Jews in Israel fought England for freedom, England retreated, surrendered after getting their but kicked.

Much more money built Israel from the ashes than Jewish money or the zionist,

Sir Moses Montefiore, No single person is more important than this man, would you not agree.

 

[GLASNOST]

No, the Palestinian part.

Pay attention this time: God gave the land to the Palestinian people. It's God who decides these things.

 

[elektra]

Pay attention this time: God gave the land to the Palestinian people. It's God who decides these things.

The palestinian people? You mean the Philistines, where the name Palestine originated? Or do you mean the lazy backward do nothing arabs that migrated to Palestine 1600 years after everyone else.

are you talking about the arabs that came to palestine because their tribes were so weak, they fled the stronger Bedouin tribes of arabia?

Palestinian people, are Jews, Christians, Arabs, everyone in Palestine, which is Jordan.

 

[GLASNOST]

The palestinian people?

The indigenous people who inhabit Palestine are the Palestinians. Open a geography book. If you are illiterate you can at least look at the pictures.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Like the blacks were attracted to South Africa once it was made prosperous by whites.

You mean after they stole it.