Global Warming is such Wooly Mammoth Crap.

[Old Rocks]

Sorry, a TIME Magazine Cover Did Not Predict a Coming Ice Age | TIME.com

Above is the real cover, and I am sure that you knowingly posted the fake. You 'Conservatives' are like your treasonous fat senile old orange clown leader. You lie constantly, and are proud of it. You are, to the person, despicable examples of the naked ape.

 

[SSDD]

You mock me for talking about the surface boundary bottleneck but here you are, highlighting it. Also, atmospheric radiative physics does not ignore it just because it is also concerned with the LTE transfer through the bulk of the atmosphere or the conversion of stored energy at the emission layer.

And you ignore the next section which states:

Between the energetic absorption of electromagnetic radiation by gases and their resulting warming-up no empirical – and also no
theoretical – coherence is known which would be needed to carry spectroscopic results onto thermodynamic properties.

Convection is king ian...radiation is a bit player at best and CO2 doesn't even deserve recognition.

 

[IanC]

IF the increase of CO2 was coming from natural causes then we certainly would be in the midst of tremendous climate change.

Fortunately it is not, we have put most of it there ourselves.

CO2 is more of a symptom than a cause. Yes, there will be some warming of the atmosphere (1C/doubling) and a change in the relative amounts of energy taking the various pathways out to space, but nothing like the doomsday scenarios presented by the Warming Alarmists.

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

You see the CO2 Boogeyman behind everything. It is not, and the evidence does not support your position.

Billions are spent on improving infrastructure anyways. It is a better solution than spending the huge amounts on slowing the inevitable emission of CO2.

We are paying more for 'insurance' than the possible payout.

 

[SSDD]

Once again, Billy-bob Cleetus the redneck shows he doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.

LOL...

You don't have a clue that long term weather is CLIMATE..

Geez guy...haven't these people taught you anything? It is easy to separate weather from climate...They have a very scientific method which works for them every time it is employed...here is a quick lesson that explains the whole thing in a single graphic.

SSo DDumb, that map is the result of climate change. Predicted in 2012, and occurring exactly as predicted.

I know you wish the predictions climate science made were coming true, but alas, they are complete failures...

 

[Wyatt earp]

IF the increase of CO2 was coming from natural causes then we certainly would be in the midst of tremendous climate change.

Fortunately it is not, we have put most of it there ourselves.

CO2 is more of a symptom than a cause. Yes, there will be some warming of the atmosphere (1C/doubling) and a change in the relative amounts of energy taking the various pathways out to space, but nothing like the doomsday scenarios presented by the Warming Alarmists.

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.


Say what you want us to lower are standard of living from this

To this

Are you nuts?


.

 

[Old Rocks]

Once again, Billy-bob Cleetus the redneck shows he doesn't understand the difference between climate and weather.

LOL...

You don't have a clue that long term weather is CLIMATE..

Geez guy...haven't these people taught you anything? It is easy to separate weather from climate...They have a very scientific method which works for them every time it is employed...here is a quick lesson that explains the whole thing in a single graphic.

SSo DDumb, that map is the result of climate change. Predicted in 2012, and occurring exactly as predicted.

I know you wish the predictions climate science made were coming true, but alas, they are complete failures...

Hansen et al. 1981
Hansen, J., D. Johnson, A. Lacis, S. Lebedeff, P. Lee, D. Rind, and G. Russell, 1981: Climate impact of increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide. Science, 213, 957-966, doi:10.1126/science.213.4511.957.

The global temperature rose 0.2°C between the middle 1960s and 1980, yielding a warming of 0.4°C in the past century. This temperature increase is consistent with the calculated effect due to measured increases of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980s. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage

Pubs.GISS: Hansen et al. 1981: Climate impact of increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide

Dr. Hansen made these predictions in 1981, and they have come to pass. At the time, the denialists all said that he was an 'alarmist' and did not know what he was talking about. They said, at that time, that there was no evidence of any warming at all. What a bunch of bullshitting assholes they were then, and continue to be today.

 

[Old Rocks]

IF the increase of CO2 was coming from natural causes then we certainly would be in the midst of tremendous climate change.

Fortunately it is not, we have put most of it there ourselves.

CO2 is more of a symptom than a cause. Yes, there will be some warming of the atmosphere (1C/doubling) and a change in the relative amounts of energy taking the various pathways out to space, but nothing like the doomsday scenarios presented by the Warming Alarmists.

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.


Say what you want us to lower are standard of living from this


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To this


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Are you nuts?


.

Not at all. To this;

All these vehicles far exceed their ICE counterparts in performance, cost of operation, and handling. Very soon, as the price of the batteries continue to decline, and the energy density continues to increase, they will cost less than the comparable ICE. In fact, there is no ICE at the price of the Roadster that can even begin to compete with it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

IF the increase of CO2 was coming from natural causes then we certainly would be in the midst of tremendous climate change.

Fortunately it is not, we have put most of it there ourselves.

CO2 is more of a symptom than a cause. Yes, there will be some warming of the atmosphere (1C/doubling) and a change in the relative amounts of energy taking the various pathways out to space, but nothing like the doomsday scenarios presented by the Warming Alarmists.

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.


Say what you want us to lower are standard of living from this


View attachment 169879


To this


View attachment 169882


Are you nuts?


.

Not at all. To this;

All these vehicles far exceed their ICE counterparts in performance, cost of operation, and handling. Very soon, as the price of the batteries continue to decline, and the energy density continues to increase, they will cost less than the comparable ICE. In fact, there is no ICE at the price of the Roadster that can even begin to compete with it.

Crap cars ...

 

[Old Rocks]

IF the increase of CO2 was coming from natural causes then we certainly would be in the midst of tremendous climate change.

Fortunately it is not, we have put most of it there ourselves.

CO2 is more of a symptom than a cause. Yes, there will be some warming of the atmosphere (1C/doubling) and a change in the relative amounts of energy taking the various pathways out to space, but nothing like the doomsday scenarios presented by the Warming Alarmists.

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.


Say what you want us to lower are standard of living from this


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To this


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Are you nuts?


.

No, but you sure as fuck are if you think that today people think of that as the typical EV today. Now they think of one of the Tesla models or even the Chevy Bolt. And, by 2020, there will be many more manufacturers with EV's for sale. Vehicles, like the Tesla's, designed as EV's from the ground up. And, like the Roadster and Semi, many will have very good range on one charge. And, with solar on your roof, you can power both your vehicle and your home. But you neanderthals can continue to pay big corporations, and be so proud of your support of billioniares. LOL

 

[IanC]

You mock me for talking about the surface boundary bottleneck but here you are, highlighting it. Also, atmospheric radiative physics does not ignore it just because it is also concerned with the LTE transfer through the bulk of the atmosphere or the conversion of stored energy at the emission layer.

And you ignore the next section which states:

Between the energetic absorption of electromagnetic radiation by gases and their resulting warming-up no empirical – and also no
theoretical – coherence is known which would be needed to carry spectroscopic results onto thermodynamic properties.

Convection is king ian...radiation is a bit player at best and CO2 doesn't even deserve recognition.

What you say makes no sense when you follow the energy entering and leaving the system.

The amount of radiation directly escaping through the Atmospheric Window from the surface proves you a liar. A quarter of the solar insolation is transformed into IR and leaves immediately. 25% is negligible in your world?

If CO2 was not present then the AW would be wider, and the direct escape would be almost doubled. Still negligible?

All the energy leaving the planet is in the form of radiation. Still a 'bit player'?

Conduction and convection move a lot of the surface energy to the cloudtops. More than half, they are also major players. But to say radiation is negligible and CO2'S influence is non existent is bullshit.

 

[Wyatt earp]

IF the increase of CO2 was coming from natural causes then we certainly would be in the midst of tremendous climate change.

Fortunately it is not, we have put most of it there ourselves.

CO2 is more of a symptom than a cause. Yes, there will be some warming of the atmosphere (1C/doubling) and a change in the relative amounts of energy taking the various pathways out to space, but nothing like the doomsday scenarios presented by the Warming Alarmists.

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.


Say what you want us to lower are standard of living from this


View attachment 169879


To this


View attachment 169882


Are you nuts?


.

No, but you sure as fuck are if you think that today people think of that as the typical EV today. Now they think of one of the Tesla models or even the Chevy Bolt. And, by 2020, there will be many more manufacturers with EV's for sale. Vehicles, like the Tesla's, designed as EV's from the ground up. And, like the Roadster and Semi, many will have very good range on one charge. And, with solar on your roof, you can power both your vehicle and your home. But you neanderthals can continue to pay big corporations, and be so proud of your support of billioniares. LOL

Solar on the roof of cars ????

 

[Old Rocks]

IF the increase of CO2 was coming from natural causes then we certainly would be in the midst of tremendous climate change.

Fortunately it is not, we have put most of it there ourselves.

CO2 is more of a symptom than a cause. Yes, there will be some warming of the atmosphere (1C/doubling) and a change in the relative amounts of energy taking the various pathways out to space, but nothing like the doomsday scenarios presented by the Warming Alarmists.

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.


Say what you want us to lower are standard of living from this


View attachment 169879


To this


View attachment 169882


Are you nuts?


.

Not at all. To this;

All these vehicles far exceed their ICE counterparts in performance, cost of operation, and handling. Very soon, as the price of the batteries continue to decline, and the energy density continues to increase, they will cost less than the comparable ICE. In fact, there is no ICE at the price of the Roadster that can even begin to compete with it.

Crap cars ...

Liar. LOL Such a prissy little bitch. Those are the future. Cost of operation of all them far below that of an ICE. Performance superior. Handling superior. And you can make your own fuel for them. In the meantime, you stand in the horseshit beside the road, yelling 'Get a horse' at the passing autos. LOL You are one funny little bitch.

 

[Old Rocks]

IF the increase of CO2 was coming from natural causes then we certainly would be in the midst of tremendous climate change.

Fortunately it is not, we have put most of it there ourselves.

CO2 is more of a symptom than a cause. Yes, there will be some warming of the atmosphere (1C/doubling) and a change in the relative amounts of energy taking the various pathways out to space, but nothing like the doomsday scenarios presented by the Warming Alarmists.

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.


Say what you want us to lower are standard of living from this


View attachment 169879


To this


View attachment 169882


Are you nuts?


.

No, but you sure as fuck are if you think that today people think of that as the typical EV today. Now they think of one of the Tesla models or even the Chevy Bolt. And, by 2020, there will be many more manufacturers with EV's for sale. Vehicles, like the Tesla's, designed as EV's from the ground up. And, like the Roadster and Semi, many will have very good range on one charge. And, with solar on your roof, you can power both your vehicle and your home. But you neanderthals can continue to pay big corporations, and be so proud of your support of billioniares. LOL

Solar on the roof of cars ????





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No, stupid little bitch, on the roof of your house. But not for you. You would rather continue to contribute your hard earned to a billionaire. Such a loyal little idiot.

 

[Wyatt earp]

IF the increase of CO2 was coming from natural causes then we certainly would be in the midst of tremendous climate change.

Fortunately it is not, we have put most of it there ourselves.

CO2 is more of a symptom than a cause. Yes, there will be some warming of the atmosphere (1C/doubling) and a change in the relative amounts of energy taking the various pathways out to space, but nothing like the doomsday scenarios presented by the Warming Alarmists.

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.


Say what you want us to lower are standard of living from this


View attachment 169879


To this


View attachment 169882


Are you nuts?


.

Not at all. To this;

All these vehicles far exceed their ICE counterparts in performance, cost of operation, and handling. Very soon, as the price of the batteries continue to decline, and the energy density continues to increase, they will cost less than the comparable ICE. In fact, there is no ICE at the price of the Roadster that can even begin to compete with it.

Crap cars ...

Liar. LOL Such a prissy little bitch. Those are the future. Cost of operation of all them far below that of an ICE. Performance superior. Handling superior. And you can make your own fuel for them. In the meantime, you stand in the horseshit beside the road, yelling 'Get a horse' at the passing autos. LOL You are one funny little bitch.

How am I lying a picture says a thousand words...

And what the hell once again it's antique technology its been around for a 130 years plus..


Read a history book will you....

 

[Wyatt earp]

IF the increase of CO2 was coming from natural causes then we certainly would be in the midst of tremendous climate change.

Fortunately it is not, we have put most of it there ourselves.

CO2 is more of a symptom than a cause. Yes, there will be some warming of the atmosphere (1C/doubling) and a change in the relative amounts of energy taking the various pathways out to space, but nothing like the doomsday scenarios presented by the Warming Alarmists.

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.


Say what you want us to lower are standard of living from this


View attachment 169879


To this


View attachment 169882


Are you nuts?


.

No, but you sure as fuck are if you think that today people think of that as the typical EV today. Now they think of one of the Tesla models or even the Chevy Bolt. And, by 2020, there will be many more manufacturers with EV's for sale. Vehicles, like the Tesla's, designed as EV's from the ground up. And, like the Roadster and Semi, many will have very good range on one charge. And, with solar on your roof, you can power both your vehicle and your home. But you neanderthals can continue to pay big corporations, and be so proud of your support of billioniares. LOL

Solar on the roof of cars ????





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No, stupid little bitch, on the roof of your house. But not for you. You would rather continue to contribute your hard earned to a billionaire. Such a loyal little idiot.

It doesn't pay off and you now it, another feel good feeling

 

[Taz]

Why do you make that up? Got nothing else?

I got plenty. I'm starting with this.

When you get to the "plenty" part, wake me up.

I figured you must be sleeping to swallow this BS.

Not to worry, I don't swallow any of your bs.

That's because you are already full.

Full of knowledge, no room for bs of any kind.

 

[Old Rocks]

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.


Say what you want us to lower are standard of living from this


View attachment 169879


To this


View attachment 169882


Are you nuts?


.

Not at all. To this;

All these vehicles far exceed their ICE counterparts in performance, cost of operation, and handling. Very soon, as the price of the batteries continue to decline, and the energy density continues to increase, they will cost less than the comparable ICE. In fact, there is no ICE at the price of the Roadster that can even begin to compete with it.

Crap cars ...

Liar. LOL Such a prissy little bitch. Those are the future. Cost of operation of all them far below that of an ICE. Performance superior. Handling superior. And you can make your own fuel for them. In the meantime, you stand in the horseshit beside the road, yelling 'Get a horse' at the passing autos. LOL You are one funny little bitch.

How am I lying a picture says a thousand words...

And what the hell once again it's antique technology its been around for a 130 years plus..


Read a history book will you....



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Silly, silly bitch. The present EVs that Tesla makes are faster than almost all ICE's, they handle better, are more reliable, and cost far less to operate. As the competition in batteries increases, the costs will come down at the same time the energy density increases. The Roadster, with 620 mile range on a single charge is the future for all of the EV's. And there is no other production car that can touch it's performance. EV's are the future, the ICE is the past.

 

[Old Rocks]

What we are seeing today in extreme weather events is the result of the GHG levels of about 30 years ago. As the years go on, and the affects of the rapid rise to 400+ ppm for CO2 and 1850 ppb for CH4 kick in, how long before we are losing ground on repairing our infrastructure just from extreme weather events? How many tens of thousands of homes damaged or destroyed in the hurricanes, floods, and fires of 2017, just in the USA? How much damage to the infrastructure, power, water and sewage, by these events? How much damage are we going to see from the present intrusion of Arctic air on the East Coast?

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.

Not doomsday, but serious damage to our nation and standard of living.


Say what you want us to lower are standard of living from this


View attachment 169879


To this


View attachment 169882


Are you nuts?


.

No, but you sure as fuck are if you think that today people think of that as the typical EV today. Now they think of one of the Tesla models or even the Chevy Bolt. And, by 2020, there will be many more manufacturers with EV's for sale. Vehicles, like the Tesla's, designed as EV's from the ground up. And, like the Roadster and Semi, many will have very good range on one charge. And, with solar on your roof, you can power both your vehicle and your home. But you neanderthals can continue to pay big corporations, and be so proud of your support of billioniares. LOL

Solar on the roof of cars ????





View attachment 169890

No, stupid little bitch, on the roof of your house. But not for you. You would rather continue to contribute your hard earned to a billionaire. Such a loyal little idiot.

It doesn't pay off and you now it, another feel good feeling

LOL So a market that has been increasing by 32% year over year doesn't pay off. Well, apparently a whole lot of somebodies disagrees with you.

EIA: US solar output increases 47% in 2017

In market segment terms, utility scale growth was twice as high, increasing 58% from 2016 to 2017, as small scale at 29%. The residential sector increased by 32% year-over-year, while the smaller sectors, commercial and industrial each grew 23%. Overall, PV continues its climb of market share of total electricity generated, going from 1.3% from January through September 2016 to 1.9% in the same time period in 2017.