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Are you kiddin'??!!!
The opportunity to show-up to KEEP FEAR ALIVE!....in any number o' variations on Teabaggery??!!!!
No. I'm not kidding. And that isn't even a full sentence. It sure isnt understandable.
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Are you kiddin'??!!!
The opportunity to show-up to KEEP FEAR ALIVE!....in any number o' variations on Teabaggery??!!!!
...rather than relying on age-old Absolutes, as a means to avoid any original-thought, huh??
Yeah.....whatta crime. [/CENTER]
Stewart and Colbert are the new Cronkite and who the fuck cares.
LOL.
Jon Stewart, Liberal Intellectual Elite.
LOL
The Million Moderate March, well maybe "March" is too military and extreme for moderates how about the Million Moderate Stroll instead?
I appreciate that both colbert and stewart "attack" democrats, republicans, tea party candidates, liberals and conservatives.....
if you do or say something stupid they will go after it.
and though they are just comedians/entertainers I feel that they have as much right to mix comedy and politics as entertainer rush limbaugh or entertainer glenn beck does
additionally
they tend to present the issues from a persepctive that I MOSTLY agree with
Thinkers, reality isnt a black and white tv show it comes in color.
Moderates=left leaning, especially when comedy central is the driving force, shees
Labeling ones self as moderate and not simply American has always been a cop out IMO
You either are...or are not. Why do people complicate their lives by creating grey areas? It only leads to trouble...convolution...and angst.
Most of the Daily Show and Colbert Report viewers I've known get their news from a lot of different sources. Actual studies of TDS and TDR viewer have born that out. Part of that is because you won't get the jokes if you don't know the background.Stewart and Colbert are the new Cronkite and who the fuck cares.
LOL.
Jon Stewart, Liberal Intellectual Elite.
LOL
The Million Moderate March, well maybe "March" is too military and extreme for moderates how about the Million Moderate Stroll instead?
I appreciate that both colbert and stewart "attack" democrats, republicans, tea party candidates, liberals and conservatives.....
if you do or say something stupid they will go after it.
and though they are just comedians/entertainers I feel that they have as much right to mix comedy and politics as entertainer rush limbaugh or entertainer glenn beck does
additionally
they tend to present the issues from a persepctive that I MOSTLY agree with
Ive never seen them go after each other or themselves even when they say something stupid.
Has anyone argued that they don't have a right to mix humor with politics?
So you get your politics from comedy central? Whatever happened to just looking at different ideas, reading, and thinking about things for ourselves?
You still don't win elections without them. You can knock on them and the fact they can't be counted on to reliably vote "R" or "D", but they decide elections with the ebb and flow. I'd be careful mocking them.
Who's mocking what? I am doing no such thing. Fencesitters go with ebb and flow. Independents are principled souls attached to no party.
What is it you don't understand of this? The primary word is principle. Maybe it is this aspect that throws you off?
Centrists are by and large NOT principled and just go with the flow for political sake of acceptence...and typically known as political hacks.
You. You're mocking moderates. And you do so at your peril. If you can't carry them in an election you lose, simple as that.
I know that the Partisans here don't get it, but here it is: you can not win an election with just Conservatives or Liberals.
A lot of folks here forget that. The Republicans forgot that in 2006 and lost out big. They forgot it again in 2008 and lost out big. The Democrats forgot that too, and are looking to end up out of power again in short order.
You know........Jon has given everyone around a month and a half to plan this. Not only that, but he's bringing out some very good points, because a lot of the political debate HAS gone a little bit nuts.
And yeah........I'd be willing to bet that on 10/30/10, there will be more people there for Stewart's rally than what showed up for Beck's.
Why? Jon Stewart is ALREADY going to be broadcasting from DC the week before, and lots of people will be showing up just to see his show.
So the difference between moderates and independents is that Indies think for themselves and moderates follow the crowd?
Let me guess--are right wingers are independents and all left wingers follow a crowd?
Or is it all left wingers are independents and all right wingers follow a crowd?
Don't answer!
The bottomline is that an independent is devoid of party affilliation. You can be right-leaning, left-leaning or centric independent. Moderates are either independent centrist or "close to center" right/left wingers that may or may not be a part of a party.
It is true that moderates and independents are not necessarily the same thing, but to assume that moderates and independents are mutually exclusive is not correct.
The thing to remember is that Indepedents span the political spectrum, moderates are centrist or close to centrism.
And what a centrist but a fencesitter that can go either way according to the popular flow of the moment?
Centrism is a cop-out .
You still are getting mired aren't you? 'Moderates' are NOT independent. They're people that FAIL to have principle [one side or the other] that go with the flow for political acceptence. And quite frankly? I'd rather have a vote or not from someone with principle rather than someone just looking for accpetence to be accepted by whatever...just because it's popular or not.
good grief, do lefties EVA have a original IDEA they think up for themselves.?
And if Stewart and Colbert is moderate, then I'm the damn queen of England.
You confuse Moderates with INDEPENDENTS. Independents at least think for themselves and aren't aligned with any party apparatus and act on their principle. Moderates act with the flow of popular consensus for their inability of or fear of principle.
Big difference sport.
You still don't win elections without them. You can knock on them and the fact they can't be counted on to reliably vote "R" or "D", but they decide elections with the ebb and flow. I'd be careful mocking them.
Who's mocking what? I am doing no such thing. Fencesitters go with ebb and flow. Independents are principled souls attached to no party.
What is it you don't understand of this? The primary word is principle. Maybe it is this aspect that throws you off?
Centrists are by and large NOT principled and just go with the flow for political sake of acceptence...and typically known as political hacks.
You. You're mocking moderates. And you do so at your peril. If you can't carry them in an election you lose, simple as that.
I know that the Partisans here don't get it, but here it is: you can not win an election with just Conservatives or Liberals.
A lot of folks here forget that. The Republicans forgot that in 2006 and lost out big. They forgot it again in 2008 and lost out big. The Democrats forgot that too, and are looking to end up out of power again in short order.
You still are getting mired aren't you? 'Moderates' are NOT independent. They're people that FAIL to have principle [one side or the other] that go with the flow for political acceptence. And quite frankly? I'd rather have a vote or not from someone with principle rather than someone just looking for accpetence to be accepted by whatever...just because it's popular or not.
Luckily? They are few that fit this description. Independents are principled folks that don't identifiy or refuse to be tied to any partisan endeavour.
You know something--We centrist/moderates don't need a party!
These left/right wing whackos have to cater to us before they can start on their agendas!
For now on, we want you left/right wingers to treat us with a little more respect--or we are not voting for you!
You hear that! Your agenda--does not move--until you win some CENTRIC(not independents--they are all over the map!) Support!
Tell us--are there any centrist supporting the Tea Party? You better hope there Are!