Glenn Beck (of all people) dismantles the gun control argument

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    If you want to debate Beck's views, either post them in transcript or in your own words.
     
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    Just look at the sovereign nation of Catalonia being invaded and enslaved by Spain...they're not so sovereign without firearms...are they?
     
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    How's that possible?


    I'll answer that for him…


    We put many of the criminal in jails.


    See:
    3 strikes laws
    mandatory minimums
    federal trafficking laws
    state/local police budget increases

    Read freakinomics, get a better understand of how things work. More guns DO NOT make for less crime.

    The NRA’s theory that more guns mean less crime is debunked in a new Stanford analysis
     
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    What you have is a lot of conjecture.

    You can go on and on about what you want the data to show but that does not make it a reality.
     
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    Policing is pretty well proven to lower crime. Clearly with all our guns policing is hurt with dead cops, cops taken off the street, injured cops, less trust for police due to shootings... looks really clear to me.
     
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    . Not more guns as in numbers without reason, but rather more guns in the hands of good people, and more training on how to use those guns.
     
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    Because you, again, are making assumptions without any evidence.
     
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    “Glenn Beck dismantles the gun control argument”

    No, he doesn’t.

    Beck’s ‘argument’ is the same inane strawman fallacy conservatives have been propagating for decades.

    No one advocates going back to ‘cowboy days’ or ‘six-shooters’; no one advocates prohibiting the possession of semi-automatic firearms (Beck should also know that one loads his revolver with cartridges, not ‘bullets’).

    No one has maintained that a given firearm regulatory measure – or firearm regulation collectively – would be a ‘panacea’ for all gun crime and violence. To argue that firearm regulatory measures are ‘invalid’ because gun crimes continue to be committed is nothing but specious sophistry.

    Beck hasn’t ‘dismantled’ anything – he succeeds in only exhibiting his ignorance and stupidity, and the ignorance and stupidity of anyone who agrees with him.
     
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    Wrong.

    The notion of the ‘good guy with a gun’ is a myth:

    ‘In major cities like New York City and Los Angeles, the measured hit rates of police, according to Firearm Discharge Reports, hover far below 50 percent, some years dipping into the teens. This statistic doesn’t imply police are poor marksmen; it merely reflects the stressful, difficult, and dangerous reality of confrontations, unmatched in a shooting range or training situation. By telling unprepared civilians it’s their responsibility to be heroes, the NRA contributes to the possibility that “good guys” add to the confusion at the crime scene.’

    The “Good Guy With a Gun” Myth | Harvard Political Review

    Citizens have the right to carry concealed firearms pursuant to lawful self-defense.

    Not to act in the compacity of ‘law enforcement.’

    Not to ‘deter crime.’

    The sole responsibility of someone carrying a concealed firearm in an active shooter situation – where his life or safety is not at imminent risk – is to keep his firearm holstered and remove himself from danger.
     
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