Gingrich safety vs Paul Liberty???

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    Before you make your mind up between these two top tier candidates please read the quote below...

    "Those who would give up ESSENTIAL Liberty for a little TEMPORARY Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"(BF).
     
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    Why is Ron Paul even being considered for the Presidency, he is 76 years old!!!!! He will be 77 on election day!!!!! That and he is an isolationist, something that is incredibly stupid for a capitalist nation.
     
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    This is a false dichotomy.

    First, the notion that any of us have lost any actual "liberty". Nonsense. We've lost a little convience, I'll give you that. Yeah, it's a pain to go through the airport and you have to go through metal detectors at public places now.

    The reality is that we live in an information age. The government is actually behind the curve in its ability to gather information on people compared to where the private sector is. Every three months, I get a credit report so that I know what the corporations already know about me, so I can make sure I can correct any mistakes. All this happens without the government doing much of anything.

    I want the government to have the tools to track potential bad guys. The one thing that was shocking after 9-11 or OK City wasn't that they had no idea who these guys were, but that information that was clearly out there was not shared or gotten to the right people.

    For instance, the fact that these 19 Arabs were taking flying lessons should have set off red flags. But instead, the INS sent renewals of their pilot applications to Atta and a couple of the others a few weeks AFTER they flew the planes into the buildings. :eek:
     
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    Ron is no isolationist. Ron advocates trade with ALL nations. Where did you get this isolationist Ron Paul policy from???


     
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    Ron Paul isolationist? He wants to start trading with many nations that US don’t trade with today. E.g. Cuba. Did you know that Cuba had a 201.4 billion trade surplus?

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2187rank.html

    It’s stupid for a captialist nation to isolate itself and not trade with other nations. When has ever Ron Paul been against trading with other nations?->never
    Did you know that US has the largest trade deficit in the whole world:-470.200 billion $, that is being isolated. Because of stupid buoycotts.

    Ron Paul wants to change this and start trading and earning money, that’s not isolating thats how captialst nation thinks. He wants to get more involved in foreign countries by more trade and earning money, instead of spending and wasting money.
     
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    Because the guberment thinks I can't take care of myself they must protect me for my own good fuck'em
     
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    Paul top tier candidate? Lol, a little wishful thinking on your part there.

    Secondly what freedoms have you lost?
     
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    The basic job of government is to protect the nation. Paul would fail.
     
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    An old man once said " Give me liberty or give me death":I concur.
     
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    WHAT FREEDOMS HAVE YOU LOST???????

    Everyone likes to ramble on about freedom but no one EVER lists personal freedoms lost. Just a bunch of perceived what if losses.
     

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