Getting guns off the street

[bigrebnc1775]

And lets go for mandatory life in prison for anyone who is not allowed to have a gun killing someone with one.

Fuck that kill the bastard.

 

[ScienceRocks]

50,000 dead in 6 years in Mexico. Guns are BANNED in Mexico.

Guns are Banned in Chicago
Guns are mostly Banned in New york

Just like the war on drugs has failed so will the war on guns.

 

[uscitizen]

And lets go for mandatory life in prison for anyone who is not allowed to have a gun killing someone with one.

Fuck that kill the bastard.

Ohh I am for that as well.

 

[uscitizen]

It is not gun control it is people control.
Guns can't even read a law.

 

[Votto]

Maybe you'd have more luck getting your way if you stamped your feet, and threatened to hold your breath until you turn blue.

no, its time has arrived ... and the Administration should take advantage of recent events.

The administration engineerer recent events. If it took the deaths of 100 children to disarm Americans the adminstation would gladly do it.

With the militias out there and doomsday prepers out there it would be a blood bath, more like Lincoln sending over half Americans to their deaths.

 

[elvis]

It is not gun control it is people control.
Guns can't even read a law.

Criminals can read a law. They just don't follow them.

 

[Dutch]

The problem is two fold.

No matter how serious the symptoms, they only do something about the mentally ill after they have harmed someone. The very thought of something like socialistic free psychological help for those when the first symptoms show up, rather than waiting until the are multiple dead someones.

The nation is awash in guns meant only for the killing of other people. The assault rifles are not meant for anything other than killing people rapidly in large numbers. And this last week has demonstrated their ability to do this very well. And the NRA and fruitloops answer is more guns. We have been doing that for the last decade, and this is the inevitable result.

Those owning a gun of any type. You store it irresponsibly, someone takes it and uses it in a crime, you own that crime.

Completely false. I use them to shoot varmints in montana and wyoming.

And why do you need a clip with thirty rounds to kill varmints? You either live in Africa or you are a poor shot

 

[Seawytch]

We all know that government can get guns onto the street.

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But can they get them off the streets?

You are aware that the government did not introduce the guns into circulation, they only tried to track them.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

We all know that government can get guns onto the street.

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But can they get them off the streets?

You are aware that the government did not introduce the guns into circulation, they only tried to track them.

It was done under the authorization of the government yes
or
No?

 

[Seawytch]

We all know that government can get guns onto the street.

View attachment 23139

But can they get them off the streets?

You are aware that the government did not introduce the guns into circulation, they only tried to track them.

It was done under the authorization of the government yes
or
No?

That isn't what was stated. The OP made the FALSE claim that the Government was responsible for the guns being sold. They weren't.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You are aware that the government did not introduce the guns into circulation, they only tried to track them.

It was done under the authorization of the government yes
or
No?

That isn't what was stated. The OP made the FALSE claim that the Government was responsible for the guns being sold. They weren't.

Authorizing it would mean they were responsible don't be so god damn stupid.

 

[BreezeWood]

Make sure you don't fall off the stack of dead children's bodies you're preaching from, you son of a bitch.

"take advantage" was a poor choice of words ...

Only after you got called on it. Asshole.

...however recent events only highlight the the reasonableness of sound firearm legislation that presently is lacking due to enthusiasm for weapons used for killing that everyone does not agree to.

Again, for the retarded:

CN laws prevented the shooter from buying a weapon.

So he stole some.

Stealing is illegal. So is murder.

Those laws didn't stop him.

How do you propose to get criminals to obey the law?

I have NEVER gotten a rational answer to this question.

So he stole some.


if the guns available to the citizenry were lever / bolt action, 6 round capacity, chamber fed -

there would have been fewer casualties - a greater chance and time to apprehend the shooter - others with the same allowed weapons if present could have responded just the same as at present.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

"take advantage" was a poor choice of words ...

Only after you got called on it. Asshole.

...however recent events only highlight the the reasonableness of sound firearm legislation that presently is lacking due to enthusiasm for weapons used for killing that everyone does not agree to.

Again, for the retarded:

CN laws prevented the shooter from buying a weapon.

So he stole some.

Stealing is illegal. So is murder.

Those laws didn't stop him.

How do you propose to get criminals to obey the law?

I have NEVER gotten a rational answer to this question.

So he stole some.


if the guns available to the citizenry were lever / bolt action, 6 round capacity, chamber fed -

there would have been fewer casualties - a greater chance and time to apprehend the shooter - others with the same allowed weapons if present could have responded just the same as at present.

oh Gawd please shut the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you don't have any knowledge of firearm shut the fuck up.
Do you know a revolver has the same function as a semi automatic weapon?
Did you know a revolver can be reloaded was a speed loader?
Did you know a revolve will not malfunctions as a semiautomatic firearm will?
So shut the fuck up.

 

[BreezeWood]

Only after you got called on it. Asshole.

Again, for the retarded:

CN laws prevented the shooter from buying a weapon.

So he stole some.

Stealing is illegal. So is murder.

Those laws didn't stop him.

How do you propose to get criminals to obey the law?

I have NEVER gotten a rational answer to this question.

So he stole some.


if the guns available to the citizenry were lever / bolt action, 6 round capacity, chamber fed -

there would have been fewer casualties - a greater chance and time to apprehend the shooter - others with the same allowed weapons if present could have responded just the same as at present.

oh Gawd please shut the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you don't have any knowledge of firearm shut the fuck up.
Do you know a revolver has the same function as a semi automatic weapon?
Did you know a revolver can be reloaded was a speed loader?
Did you know a revolve will not malfunctions as a semiautomatic firearm will?
So shut the fuck up.

I have a bolt action 5 round chamber fed 8 mm Mouser and feel quite comfortable with its protection.


the above referred to pistols as well - lever action, 6 round, chamber fed - no speed loaders, is the point.

 

[asterism]

Crime is at an all-time low... I know facts rarely into conversations on here but things are better than they've been in America.

What about the bank that was laundering money for Iran?

Ohh wait you are correct they were to big for it to be considered a crime.

Well... crime that doesn't involve the Federal Government... you know, peoples' crime. It's been a fucking festival for white collar criminals since the Bush Administration.

You sure about that?

Clinton Era Scandals

 

[The Professor]

Apparently, the Justice Department has ruled that the Second Amendment only applies to Mexican drug lords.

Hey asshole, two guns in your avatar, ain't you just such a tough peice of shit!!!

No, I'm a fan of a series of novels.

Retard.

More and more guns, that is the answer. And that is what we have seen for a decade. And now we reap what has been sown. Or rather, our beautiful innocent children do.

While you pretend to hold the moral high ground, remember two things:

1. You have no plan to get criminals to obey the law.

2. You oppose people defending themselves against those criminals.

People always hear about those who are killed by crazed/criminal gunmen, but for some strange reason they never hear about the mass killings that were prevented by lawfully armed citizens, Here is a link which gives examples of how guns SAVE innocent people.

Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters

One of the articles describes how a gunman killed 15 woman and 8 men and wounded 19. These 23 people were murdered because they lived in a state which did not allow arms outside the home. The killing spree lasted 10 minutes because the shooter had problems with his weapon. These murders, or at least most of them, would have been easily prevented if any one of the victims had been armed. The same article describes a case where a mass murder of twenty customers and staff at a Shoney's restaurant was prevented by an armed customer in a state which had concealed carry permits. The only ones who got killed were two of the armed robbers. In these cases, there is no doubt that gun restrictions CAUSED substantial loss of life, while gun ownership SAVED many lives.

There are more examples at the following link:

GUN WATCH: Mass Killings Stopped by Armed Citizens

The problem with most crusaders, including those who want to do away with gun ownership, is that they never consider the consequences of their acts. These people don't understand that those areas which have the most rigid gun control laws also have the highest gun-related crime rates. That thing about "when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns" is not just a cliche. It's a simple statement of facts.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So he stole some.


if the guns available to the citizenry were lever / bolt action, 6 round capacity, chamber fed -

there would have been fewer casualties - a greater chance and time to apprehend the shooter - others with the same allowed weapons if present could have responded just the same as at present.

oh Gawd please shut the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you don't have any knowledge of firearm shut the fuck up.
Do you know a revolver has the same function as a semi automatic weapon?
Did you know a revolver can be reloaded was a speed loader?
Did you know a revolve will not malfunctions as a semiautomatic firearm will?
So shut the fuck up.

I have a bolt action 5 round chamber fed 8 mm Mouser and feel quite comfortable with its protection.


the above referred to pistols as well - lever action, 6 round, chamber fed - no speed loaders, is the point.

Yeah yeah yeah, and I have Santa clause and the Easter bunny living in my basement, wait a minute I don't have a basement.

 

[jtpr312]

Ask Bush. He started "gun walking"...

Lol, sorry, not the same program, not the same results. I see you get your facts from MSNBC. Might be a good idea to check other sources, then you wouldn't make such asinine statments comparing two programs that have little in common.

 

[daveman]

The problem is two fold.

No matter how serious the symptoms, they only do something about the mentally ill after they have harmed someone. The very thought of something like socialistic free psychological help for those when the first symptoms show up, rather than waiting until the are multiple dead someones.

The nation is awash in guns meant only for the killing of other people. The assault rifles are not meant for anything other than killing people rapidly in large numbers. And this last week has demonstrated their ability to do this very well. And the NRA and fruitloops answer is more guns. We have been doing that for the last decade, and this is the inevitable result.

Those owning a gun of any type. You store it irresponsibly, someone takes it and uses it in a crime, you own that crime.

Completely false. I use them to shoot varmints in montana and wyoming.

And why do you need a clip with thirty rounds to kill varmints? You either live in Africa or you are a poor shot

You don't need to post on the internet.

But there you are. Posting.

 

[daveman]

"take advantage" was a poor choice of words ...

Only after you got called on it. Asshole.

...however recent events only highlight the the reasonableness of sound firearm legislation that presently is lacking due to enthusiasm for weapons used for killing that everyone does not agree to.

Again, for the retarded:

CN laws prevented the shooter from buying a weapon.

So he stole some.

Stealing is illegal. So is murder.

Those laws didn't stop him.

How do you propose to get criminals to obey the law?

I have NEVER gotten a rational answer to this question.

So he stole some.


if the guns available to the citizenry were lever / bolt action, 6 round capacity, chamber fed -

there would have been fewer casualties - a greater chance and time to apprehend the shooter - others with the same allowed weapons if present could have responded just the same as at present.

6 rounds is obviously too many. We should limit weapons to single shot, with a built-in timer to limit firing to once every 10 minutes.