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We also have a much more favorable climate for renewables.The USA needs much more energy per inhabitant and produced material than Germany. The use of energy was in Germany always efficient. And whatever Germany is able to do will not be able to solve the problem any longer. It's 40-50 years to late now. The world will have to suffer - that's meanwhile inevitable. Everything, what the nations of the world are furthermore able to do, is to try to minimize the sufferings of the future generations.
We also have a much more favorable climate for renewables.The USA needs much more energy per inhabitant and produced material than Germany. The use of energy was in Germany always efficient. And whatever Germany is able to do will not be able to solve the problem any longer. It's 40-50 years to late now. The world will have to suffer - that's meanwhile inevitable. Everything, what the nations of the world are furthermore able to do, is to try to minimize the sufferings of the future generations.
using just 1-2% of our land area for Solar (ie 4 corners area of SW) we could power the entire country.
Germany has no such natural blessing.
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See climate change happens with the left-handed version of 2 and global warming happens with the right-haned version. Don't ask for the lab work because there isn't any
What for heaven sake do you try to tell me here? The facts are worldwide clear: Human beings produce a damned dangerous climate change.
How does climate change differ from global warming
Why for heavens sake try US-Americans to make a problem out of no problems and try the same time not to see real problems? What for heavens sake is not understandable in case of the climate change? Answer: Nothing! Some of the structures are deterministic Chaos - what means our sciences have problems in analyzing all structures because of a lack of knowledge about non-linear mathematics in dynamic structures. But who is able to wait to do something until we are all-knowing? The people in the Middle ages for example had eliminated pestilence a long time before medical research found the reasons and methods for infection diseases.
Short: You are a reason for the climate change! If you are able to do something what could help to stop or to minimize the climate change: do it. In worst case it will not work - in best case you will save the life of lots of people - including the life of your own ass or the life of children or grandchildren or ...
At what cost s0n?
That's where your argument falls like a house of cards. ...
So this is the new normal German climate, right?
I am told it snowed in Minnesota, record numbers. It discounts all global warming hypothesis whatsoever?And say, we in Colorado have a had record drought going on for years...and it hasn't ended? Good for Minnesota. It doesn't change anything.
In context with the global warming it could be for example possible that Germany will end in an ice time. It's difficult to bring chaos under control. The extremes grow. In case of the USA I would say the storms are indicators.
The maximum risk of the problem is by the way a totally dead planet.
Decus - You quoted me "funny". Take a look at the climate of planet Venus and you are able to see what carbon dioxide is able to do. The greatest negative effect and the probability of an effect builds the basics for risk assessments. The USA is a coward - that's all. It's more easy to close the eyes and to do nothing in case of a real danger. But in this case perhaps this behavior is the same as to do suicide. Sure has the USA the right to do suicide - but it has not the right to murder also everyone else on this planet by doing suicide. And to make something clear: It were not Red Indians of Germany, who made the weather in April 2018 in central Europe. Mother nature is doing this.
I find it funny that you conclude that climatic changes will lead to a dead planet - your words: "The maximum risk of the problem is by the way a totally dead planet." From everything we know the planet's climate has been in a perpetual state of change and this has yet to result in a "dead planet"
We are not able to compare directly what we are causing with any situation of planet Earth in the past. It never before existed an "intelligent" species on this planet, which kills all life on this planet. And you can see clearly at the planet Venus what carbon dioxide is able to do.
Personally the research I've read leads me to believe that the sun and a weakening magnetic field has more influence on the planet's climate than the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
Borg. Damned Borg.
Sadly you can't tax people for a weakening magnetosphere but you can for producing carbon dioxide. For those who believe that carbon dioxide is a pollutant and a greenhouse gas I suggest you learn how to hold your breath in order to save the planet.
The world needs really some good ideas what to do with the suicide of the US-Americans.
We also have a much more favorable climate for renewables.The USA needs much more energy per inhabitant and produced material than Germany. The use of energy was in Germany always efficient. And whatever Germany is able to do will not be able to solve the problem any longer. It's 40-50 years to late now. The world will have to suffer - that's meanwhile inevitable. Everything, what the nations of the world are furthermore able to do, is to try to minimize the sufferings of the future generations.
using just 1-2% of our land area for Solar (ie 4 corners area of SW) we could power the entire country.
Germany has no such natural blessing.
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So this is the new normal German climate, right?
No - idiot or propagandist or whatever this is what the criminals in the USA are doing when they "discuss": 2018 was the hottest April since more then 200 years in central Europe.
I am told it snowed in Minnesota, record numbers. It discounts all global warming hypothesis whatsoever?And say, we in Colorado have a had record drought going on for years...and it hasn't ended? Good for Minnesota. It doesn't change anything.
In context with the global warming it could be for example possible that Germany will end in an ice time. It's difficult to bring chaos under control. The extremes grow. In case of the USA I would say the storms are indicators.
The maximum risk of the problem is by the way a totally dead planet.
Decus - You quoted me "funny". Take a look at the climate of planet Venus and you are able to see what carbon dioxide is able to do. The greatest negative effect and the probability of an effect builds the basics for risk assessments. The USA is a coward - that's all. It's more easy to close the eyes and to do nothing in case of a real danger. But in this case perhaps this behavior is the same as to do suicide. Sure has the USA the right to do suicide - but it has not the right to murder also everyone else on this planet by doing suicide. And to make something clear: It were not Red Indians of Germany, who made the weather in April 2018 in central Europe. Mother nature is doing this.
I find it funny that you conclude that climatic changes will lead to a dead planet - your words: "The maximum risk of the problem is by the way a totally dead planet." From everything we know the planet's climate has been in a perpetual state of change and this has yet to result in a "dead planet"
We are not able to compare directly what we are causing with any situation of planet Earth in the past. It never before existed an "intelligent" species on this planet, which kills all life on this planet. And you can see clearly at the planet Venus what carbon dioxide is able to do.
Personally the research I've read leads me to believe that the sun and a weakening magnetic field has more influence on the planet's climate than the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
Borg. Damned Borg.
Sadly you can't tax people for a weakening magnetosphere but you can for producing carbon dioxide. For those who believe that carbon dioxide is a pollutant and a greenhouse gas I suggest you learn how to hold your breath in order to save the planet.
The world needs really some good ideas what to do with the suicide of the US-Americans.
The raging argument regarding climate is that carbon dioxide is warming the planet causing ice to melt. resulting in rising sea levels. That warming is also changing air and ocean currents to deviate from their present trajectories, resulting in certain regions experiencing droughts and others facing devastation from terrible storms. Warming is said to be the greatest risk we face.
For the sake of argument lets say I believe these things to be true (full disclosure - I don't), but lets pretend. How do I explain the fact that the planet has experienced much hotter periods and far greater carbon dioxide in the atmosphere but never became a "dead plant"?
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In context with the global warming it could be for example possible that Germany will end in an ice time. It's difficult to bring chaos under control. The extremes grow. In case of the USA I would say the storms are indicators.
The maximum risk of the problem is by the way a totally dead planet.
Decus - You quoted me "funny". Take a look at the climate of planet Venus and you are able to see what carbon dioxide is able to do. The greatest negative effect and the probability of an effect builds the basics for risk assessments. The USA is a coward - that's all. It's more easy to close the eyes and to do nothing in case of a real danger. But in this case perhaps this behavior is the same as to do suicide. Sure has the USA the right to do suicide - but it has not the right to murder also everyone else on this planet by doing suicide. And to make something clear: It were not Red Indians of Germany, who made the weather in April 2018 in central Europe. Mother nature is doing this.
I find it funny that you conclude that climatic changes will lead to a dead planet - your words: "The maximum risk of the problem is by the way a totally dead planet." From everything we know the planet's climate has been in a perpetual state of change and this has yet to result in a "dead planet"
We are not able to compare directly what we are causing with any situation of planet Earth in the past. It never before existed an "intelligent" species on this planet, which kills all life on this planet. And you can see clearly at the planet Venus what carbon dioxide is able to do.
Personally the research I've read leads me to believe that the sun and a weakening magnetic field has more influence on the planet's climate than the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
Borg. Damned Borg.
Sadly you can't tax people for a weakening magnetosphere but you can for producing carbon dioxide. For those who believe that carbon dioxide is a pollutant and a greenhouse gas I suggest you learn how to hold your breath in order to save the planet.
The world needs really some good ideas what to do with the suicide of the US-Americans.
The raging argument regarding climate is that carbon dioxide is warming the planet causing ice to melt. resulting in rising sea levels. That warming is also changing air and ocean currents to deviate from their present trajectories, resulting in certain regions experiencing droughts and others facing devastation from terrible storms. Warming is said to be the greatest risk we face.
For the sake of argument lets say I believe these things to be true (full disclosure - I don't), but lets pretend. How do I explain the fact that the planet has experienced much hotter periods and far greater carbon dioxide in the atmosphere but never became a "dead plant"?
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Again - Take a look at the planet Venus then you are able to see what carbon dioxide is able to do. But I give you an example if you should think all mankind is not able to die out, because we are many. Once were big forests around the world. Then only one species of trees "wan" (that's not how evolution works, that's how human beings are thinking) and only one species of trees survived all around the globe. But this trees from the horsetail family changed the climate and died out.
And what do you like to argue? It was the hottest April since more than 200 years in central Europe.
So this is the new normal German climate, right?
No - idiot or propagandist or whatever this is what the criminals in the USA are doing when they "discuss": 2018 was the hottest April since more then 200 years in central Europe.
I thought you said that this is "climate change"? Are you backing away from that claim and now saying this is just a,weather event?
Venus never had people on it either. ...
Venus never had people on it either. ...
Good grief. Yeah. You got it. Life is impossible on planet Venus, our "sister". Once started an avalanche which destroyed this possibility in the end forever. You will for example never find a home for the soul of Klimt on this planet.
Venus never had people on it either. ...
Good grief. Yeah. You got it. Life is impossible on planet Venus, our "sister". Once started an avalanche which destroyed this possibility in the end forever. You will for example never find a home for the soul of Klimt on this planet.
No! You didn't!
Klimt?
I recently visited the Neue Gallrey and was mesmerized by this
In context with the global warming it could be for example possible that Germany will end in an ice time. It's difficult to bring chaos under control. The extremes grow. In case of the USA I would say the storms are indicators.
The maximum risk of the problem is by the way a totally dead planet.
Decus - You quoted me "funny". Take a look at the climate of planet Venus and you are able to see what carbon dioxide is able to do. The greatest negative effect and the probability of an effect builds the basics for risk assessments. The USA is a coward - that's all. It's more easy to close the eyes and to do nothing in case of a real danger. But in this case perhaps this behavior is the same as to do suicide. Sure has the USA the right to do suicide - but it has not the right to murder also everyone else on this planet by doing suicide. And to make something clear: It were not Red Indians of Germany, who made the weather in April 2018 in central Europe. Mother nature is doing this.
I find it funny that you conclude that climatic changes will lead to a dead planet - your words: "The maximum risk of the problem is by the way a totally dead planet." From everything we know the planet's climate has been in a perpetual state of change and this has yet to result in a "dead planet"
We are not able to compare directly what we are causing with any situation of planet Earth in the past. It never before existed an "intelligent" species on this planet, which kills all life on this planet. And you can see clearly at the planet Venus what carbon dioxide is able to do.
Personally the research I've read leads me to believe that the sun and a weakening magnetic field has more influence on the planet's climate than the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
Borg. Damned Borg.
Sadly you can't tax people for a weakening magnetosphere but you can for producing carbon dioxide. For those who believe that carbon dioxide is a pollutant and a greenhouse gas I suggest you learn how to hold your breath in order to save the planet.
The world needs really some good ideas what to do with the suicide of the US-Americans.
The raging argument regarding climate is that carbon dioxide is warming the planet causing ice to melt. resulting in rising sea levels. That warming is also changing air and ocean currents to deviate from their present trajectories, resulting in certain regions experiencing droughts and others facing devastation from terrible storms. Warming is said to be the greatest risk we face.
For the sake of argument lets say I believe these things to be true (full disclosure - I don't), but lets pretend. How do I explain the fact that the planet has experienced much hotter periods and far greater carbon dioxide in the atmosphere but never became a "dead plant"?
.
Again - Take a look at the planet Venus then you are able to see what carbon dioxide is able to do. Do not underestimate this problem. It's a serious problem. But I give you an example if you should think all mankind is not able to die out, because we are many. Once were big forests around the world. Then only one species of trees "wan" (that's not how evolution works, that's how human beings are thinking) and only one species of trees survived all around the globe. But this trees from the horsetail family changed the climate and died out. Sometimes "to win" means to lose.
And what do you like to argue? It was the hottest April since more than 200 years in central Europe. This is able to be a probabilistic phenomenon or it is able to be a deterministic phenomenon. No one thinks seriously this is probabilistic. The manmade current climate change is a fact not an idea. But it's not easy - or impossible at all - to follow the deterministic self-reflective structure, the chaos, within such a phenomenon.
So this is the new normal German climate, right?
No - idiot or propagandist or whatever this is what the criminals in the USA are doing when they "discuss": 2018 was the hottest April since more then 200 years in central Europe.
what was the actual temperature? 60 degrees F? I bet the citizens loved the warmer temps. I know I would have since my area temps were ~10 degrees F under average for Chicago, that would be average under 50 degrees F.This isn't merely a City, or a province (like N Ontario), this is a Large country... And not for a Day or two, but for a Whole Month.
And they didn't just beat the old records, they Destroyed them.
Never seen such a long period of Weather in such a large area Shatter a record by so much, and that doesn't include the rest of Europe which was probably along for the same ride.
Germany records hottest April ever
The National Meteorological Service reports that April 2018 was the warmest April in the recorded history of German weather. Average temperatures were 5 degrees higher than during the comparison period from 1961 to 1990.
Germany records hottest April ever | DW | 30.04.2018
The year 2018 saw the warmest recorded April in German history, beating the previous record set in 2009, the National Meteorological Service (DWD) reported on Monday.
At a projected 12.4° Celsius (54 F), the average temperature proved 5° Celsius (9 F) higher than the April value from the internationally valid comparison period from 1961-1990 and 4° higher than the figure from 1981-2010.
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How Goofily anecdotal, and not really germane to the AGW debate. Yes, a large asteroid too would effect climatre more than AGW (in the short run anyway) but ...I find it funny that you conclude that climatic changes will lead to a dead planet - your words: "The maximum risk of the problem is by the way a totally dead planet." From everything we know the planet's climate has been in a perpetual state of change and this has yet to result in a "dead planet"
Personally the research I've read leads me to believe that the sun and a weakening magnetic field has more influence on the planet's climate than the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
Sadly you can't tax people for a weakening magnetosphere but you can for producing carbon dioxide. For those who believe that carbon dioxide is a pollutant and a greenhouse gas I suggest you learn how to hold your breath in order to save the planet.
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Lol....lets see, but bold predictions of where the climate will be in 50 years based on computer models is not at all anecdotal. OK s0n..... whatever you say!!!
Oh....and speaking about "germane".....how 'bout those 20 new coal plants Germany is building by 2020.
Germany Is a Coal-Burning, Gas-Guzzling Climate Change Hypocrite
Bah Bah Booey
Who's not winning?
The USA needs much more energy per inhabitant and produced material than Germany. The use of energy was in Germany always efficient. And whatever Germany is able to do will not be able to solve the problem any longer. It's 40-50 years to late now. The world will have to suffer - that's meanwhile inevitable. Everything, what the nations of the world are furthermore able to do, is to try to minimize the sufferings of the future generations.
based on what data?Overall temperature is rising. And it's debatable as to the cause. Volcanoes? Solar variables? Human pollution? Heaven even forbid we bring up human caused, that might mean We can do something...Republicans don't care.This isn't merely a City, or a province (like N Ontario), this is a Large country... And not for a Day or two, but for a Whole Month.
And they didn't just beat the old records, they Destroyed them.
Never seen such a long period of Weather in such a large area Shatter a record by so much, and that doesn't include the rest of Europe which was probably along for the same ride.
Germany records hottest April ever
The National Meteorological Service reports that April 2018 was the warmest April in the recorded history of German weather. Average temperatures were 5 degrees higher than during the comparison period from 1961 to 1990.
Germany records hottest April ever | DW | 30.04.2018
The year 2018 saw the warmest recorded April in German history, beating the previous record set in 2009, the National Meteorological Service (DWD) reported on Monday.
At a projected 12.4° Celsius (54 F), the average temperature proved 5° Celsius (9 F) higher than the April value from the internationally valid comparison period from 1961-1990 and 4° higher than the figure from 1981-2010.
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