German police fired 85 bullets total in 2011

[Triton]

Oh nice another anti gun ownership/anti 2nd amendment post to not really care about because "shall not be infringed" means shall not be infringed and you can bitch, hope, and pray all day but you and the rest of your ilk

SHALL NEVER TAKE MY GUNS AWAY.

 

[Political Junky]

Yeah Europe is awesome...you're using them as an example?
LMFAO

let me take a wild guess. You've never lived in europe so you're just another ignorant whackjob who assumes an entire continent can't have a single cool country. or is it that you think Europe IS a country? Personally, I like Austria and Switzerland the best.

REAlly like which western European countries dont?

Which don't? The UK, France, Germany, Austria, Spain, Switzerland, Portugal, Hungary, Bulgaria...

You'll have to excuse Quantum folks. Like most of the truly ignorant, he's so stupid, he doesn't even know, what he doesn't know. (which is why I have him on ignore and highly recommend it - although occasionally amusing in a retarded court jester kind of way, he's generally not worth reading)
None of those countries "round people up and throw them in prison" for owning a weapon. As a matter of fact, weapons are often displayed on walls. Of course, you've never lived there for an extended period so you speak form ignorance (as usual).
Now carrying two pistols, a sawed off shotgun and an assualt rife loaded with 100 rounds into a city? Well yeah, that will get you some time in jail because after all, they do have common sense.

The colonists were denied the right to own weapons under English law, that makes the first country on your list wrong. Peasants were often considered property in Medieval Europe, property is not allowed to won weapons.

Maybe you just don't understand long words like history.

Of course the colonists had weapons. They needed them to hunt, for one thing.

 

[old navy]

you're right Germany is so like the US...only the gun laws are different. Do you guys learn to argue in the school of retard...because that's the only audience that's gonna buy this sham

Talk about retarded. I love the Conserv argument that the solution to a gun violence problem is more guns, less laws and less enfrocement.
That's like saying the solution to our car accident problem is no driver's education or licensure required and no speed limits.

Yet with all the driver's ed and licensing requirements, cars cause more deaths annually than guns.

 

[The Infidel]

Good thing the Germans dont have dreggs from South of their border sneaking in, forming gangs, and killing their citizens....

(i.e. 18th Street gang, Beltrán-Leyva, Cartel Colima, Cartel La Familia, Michoacana, Guadalajara Cartel, Gulf Cartel, Juárez Cartel, Latin Kings, Nortenos, Mara Salvatrucha or MS13, Mexican Mafia, Mongols, Los Negros
Sinaloa Cartel, Solo Angeles, Sonora Cartel, Sur 13, Vatos Locos, Tijuana Cartel, Vagos Motorcycle Club, Los Zetas, Familia Azteca Flats, Tropang Hudas 13... )

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Like these savory characters?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

let me take a wild guess. You've never lived in europe so you're just another ignorant whackjob who assumes an entire continent can't have a single cool country. or is it that you think Europe IS a country? Personally, I like Austria and Switzerland the best.





Which don't? The UK, France, Germany, Austria, Spain, Switzerland, Portugal, Hungary, Bulgaria...

You'll have to excuse Quantum folks. Like most of the truly ignorant, he's so stupid, he doesn't even know, what he doesn't know. (which is why I have him on ignore and highly recommend it - although occasionally amusing in a retarded court jester kind of way, he's generally not worth reading)
None of those countries "round people up and throw them in prison" for owning a weapon. As a matter of fact, weapons are often displayed on walls. Of course, you've never lived there for an extended period so you speak form ignorance (as usual).
Now carrying two pistols, a sawed off shotgun and an assualt rife loaded with 100 rounds into a city? Well yeah, that will get you some time in jail because after all, they do have common sense.

The colonists were denied the right to own weapons under English law, that makes the first country on your list wrong. Peasants were often considered property in Medieval Europe, property is not allowed to won weapons.

Maybe you just don't understand long words like history.

Of course the colonists had weapons. They needed them to hunt, for one thing.

Gee, how brilliant. The weird part is I have read that post again, and then double checked it, and I do not see where I said the colonists did not have weapons. The Revolutionary War started when the British Army marched into Concorde to confiscate the guns of the colonists on 18 April 1775.

Battles of Lexington and Concord - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Please, tell me again that the UK does not have a long history of taking weapons away form its subjects.

 

[JoeB131]

you're right Germany is so like the US...only the gun laws are different. Do you guys learn to argue in the school of retard...because that's the only audience that's gonna buy this sham

I'm curious, why do you think we have so many shooting related deaths here relative to other developed countries?

Because of....how to put this....."diversity". Other "developed" countries are pretty homogenous so the poor cant whine and blame every problem on racism (aka whitey) AND they probably dont have politicians that suck votes out of a group they dont care about as much as democrats do to blacks (funny how all the major crime rates are in well non white areas).....but hey those countries have no shot of their govenment being overthrown (that's not a complimant, btw)

Wow.. and the other problem with "modern" conservatives. Rather than finding a philosophy that keeps up with the times, they allow racism to animate their movement like a zombie...

There are lot of reasons why Germany has a much lower crime rate than we do... and none of them have to do with the racist spew you just said. (Look up Guest Workers, and you'll see the Germans have a lot of the racial issues we have.)

First, the Germans have a very well developed social welfare state. They've had social security and universal health coverage since the 19th century and Otto von Bismarck. The notion that 'We can't take care of our poor, we need to give tax cuts to rich assholes" is something even Angela Merkel wouldn't say aloud.

Second, they treat drug abuse as a medical issue and not a criminal one. This is very important, because if something has been destructive, it is the stupidity of taking poor pot smokers, tossing them into a prison with rapists and murderers, and wondering why something truly sociopathic comes out as a result. But while we have a Prison-Industrial Complex that needs to lock up 2 million Americans and STILL have the highest crime rate in the world, the Germans only need to lock up 78,000 people.

Third, while Germans do allow private gun ownership, they actually treat it as a privilage and not a "right". Which means you have to prove you deserve to have a gun and can be trusted, as opposed to a guy who thinks he's a Comic Book Super-villian going to the Bass Pro Shoppe and buying an arsenal.

Now, there are cultural differences. Germany is a very disciplined society, to start with.

But clearly maybe we should look at some of the things they are doing right instead of just dismissing them as "European Socialists".

 

[Freewill]

According to Germany's Der Spiegel, German police shot only 85 bullets in all of 2011, a stark reminder that not every country is as gun-crazy as the U.S. of A. As Boing Boing translates, most of those shots weren't even aimed anyone: "49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed."

German Police Used Only 85 Bullets Against People in 2011 - Yahoo! News

It is remarkable. I would imagine that the founders would be horrified at the proliferation of weapons and chuckle at the suggestion that their intent was for anyone to own weapons outside of the "well regulated militia" they mentioned.

Remarkable, connecting how many shots police take to private gun ownship.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Actually, Spain has less than one [.9] firearm related death per 100,000 ... they're hispanic.

No, they aren't.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Wrong, all European countries have diversity now.

Not even close to the level of the U.S., but in the places that do have a large immigrant population, like sections of Paris or London, you do see this kind of violence taking place.

 

[Freewill]

And Germany didn't exterminate 10 million Jews.

And Germany didn't start two World Wars.

Yes, Germany a beacon of light.

 

[GuyPinestra]

Now carrying two pistols, a sawed off shotgun and an assualt rife loaded with 100 rounds into a city? Well yeah, that will get you some time in jail because after all, they do have common sense.

1.) It's a-s-s-a-u-l-t

2.) I've been through this with others, now it's your turn. Define 'assault rifle'.

 

[Political Junky]

Actually, Spain has less than one [.9] firearm related death per 100,000 ... they're hispanic.

No, they aren't.

Hispanic - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary


His·pan·ic adj \hi-&#712;spa-nik\

Definition of HISPANIC

1
: of or relating to the people, speech, or culture of Spain or of Spain and Portugal
2
: of, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent living in the United States; especially : one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin

 

[Oddball]

Now carrying two pistols, a sawed off shotgun and an assualt rife loaded with 100 rounds into a city? Well yeah, that will get you some time in jail because after all, they do have common sense.

1.) It's a-s-s-a-u-l-t

2.) I've been through this with others, now it's your turn. Define 'assault rifle'.

A scary looking gun...Which pretty much covers them all for the bedwetters.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Now carrying two pistols, a sawed off shotgun and an assualt rife loaded with 100 rounds into a city? Well yeah, that will get you some time in jail because after all, they do have common sense.

1.) It's a-s-s-a-u-l-t

2.) I've been through this with others, now it's your turn. Define 'assault rifle'.

A scary looking gun...Which pretty much covers them all for the bedwetters.

I actually think their definition is a gun that works.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I would have thought it to be more like 76 bullets....

 

[JoeB131]

And Germany didn't exterminate 10 million Jews.

And Germany didn't start two World Wars.

Yes, Germany a beacon of light.

Germany didn't start World War I. The Serbians did when they assassinated ArchDuke Ferdinand...

Did they cover that in HOme Skule for you, Clem?

And, yes, while Germany does deserve blame for the Holocaust, so does every nation that helped them do it.

 

[g5000]

According to Germany's Der Spiegel, German police shot only 85 bullets in all of 2011, a stark reminder that not every country is as gun-crazy as the U.S. of A. As Boing Boing translates, most of those shots weren't even aimed anyone: "49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed."

German Police Used Only 85 Bullets Against People in 2011 - Yahoo! News

You do understand this says more about the police in this country than it does the people who have guns here, don't you?

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[Freewill]

And Germany didn't exterminate 10 million Jews.

And Germany didn't start two World Wars.

Yes, Germany a beacon of light.

Germany didn't start World War I. The Serbians did when they assassinated ArchDuke Ferdinand...

Did they cover that in HOme Skule for you, Clem?

And, yes, while Germany does deserve blame for the Holocaust, so does every nation that helped them do it.

Without Germany there would be no WW1.

First World War.com - Feature Articles - The Causes of World War One

 

[JoeB131]

And Germany didn't exterminate 10 million Jews.

And Germany didn't start two World Wars.

Yes, Germany a beacon of light.

Germany didn't start World War I. The Serbians did when they assassinated ArchDuke Ferdinand...

Did they cover that in HOme Skule for you, Clem?

And, yes, while Germany does deserve blame for the Holocaust, so does every nation that helped them do it.

Without Germany there would be no WW1.

First World War.com - Feature Articles - The Causes of World War One

That's a stupid opinion I don't buy.

Really, EVERYONE was responsible for WWI in the regard that they let the thing spiral out of control as fast as it did.

 

[Dr Grump]

Because other developed countries have a long history of the government rounding up everyone with any weapon and throwing them in prison?

Um...no they don't...

Umm, yes they do. Peasants were not allowed to own weapons unless they were serving in the Army. Anyone that was found with a weapon in Medieval Europe would be trotted off to prison, hung, whipped, or all of the above.

Unlike you, I know history goes back more than 50 years.

But going back 50 years is all that matter in this context. Notice you say 'developed'...you know what that means, right?