Geologists On Global Climate Change

[Ernie S.]

Suffice it to say, I have some training and experience that would allow me to judge

 

[Ernie S.]

Your surrender is accepted.

 

[Liminal]

Suffice it to say, I have some training and experience that would allow me to judge

Why the mystery then? Please elaborate.

 

[Ernie S.]

You've established the pattern here, pal. Direct questions need no be answered.

 

[Liminal]

You've established the pattern here, pal. Direct questions need no be answered.

That's just about what I expected.

 

[Liminal]

AGW is the science of pointing at the Weather Channel and yelling, MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING!!!!"

The only science known to climate change deniers is the science of mass media deception. It's funny to watch them repeat the same hackneyed phrases over and over again, as if they had actual meaning. The foundation of their fable is that all the scientists who agree that the climate is changing, for what ever reason, are obviously getting government grants or are in the direct employ of the government, thereby creating a conflict of interest and bogus science. A claim none of the deniers ever bothers to substantiate, in any way, shape , or form. The whole premise is a laughably childish preemptive tactic, designed to distract from the obvious conclusion that the small minority of scientists who deny climate change are all obviously in the employ of energy corporations and right wing institutions.

 

[westwall]

AGW is the science of pointing at the Weather Channel and yelling, MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING!!!!"

The only science known to climate change deniers is the science of mass media deception. It's funny to watch them repeat the same hackneyed phrases over and over again, as if they had actual meaning. The foundation of their fable is that all the scientists who agree that the climate is changing, for what ever reason, are obviously getting government grants or are in the direct employ of the government, thereby creating a conflict of interest and bogus science. A claim none of the deniers ever bothers to substantiate, in any way, shape , or form. The whole premise is a laughably childish preemptive tactic, designed to distract from the obvious conclusion that the small minority of scientists who deny climate change are all obviously in the employ of energy corporations and right wing institutions.

The only people who have a mantra is the warmist silly people. Just repeat after me, "the science is settled", "the science is settled", "the science is settled", "the science is settled" ad infinitum.... It's all you got.

 

[jc456]

There's really no point in presenting facts and logic to the hardcore deniers. Such conspiracy cultists weren't reasoned into their beliefs, so they can't be reasoned out of them.

Deniers embrace denialism for the emotional comfort it gives them, the warm fuzzy feeling of belonging to a cult that gives them all the answers and removes any need to think. To get such creatures of emotion to leave their cult, we have to make it emotionally painful for them to remain, and we do that through laughter and mockery.

what is it deniers deny?

 

[jc456]

We deny AGW because there is no AGW. It's as simple as that.

I'm sure it's just that simple.

well you still haven't proved it.

 

[jc456]

Every Scientific Society, every National Academy of Science, and every major University has policy statement that state that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger. In the meantime, Ernie has obese junkies on the AM radio, fake British Lords, and undegreed ex-TV weathermen.

Problem is, it is not just weather records that are being presented. We have the thawing of the arctic, the shrinking North Polar Ice Cap, the Ice Caps of Greenland and Antarctica losing billions of tons of ice per year, and almost all of our alpine glaciers in rapid retreat. GHGs in the atmosphere are at a level unseen for millions of years. But the deniars just continue to state that nothing is happening.

where is the ice cap shrinking? on earth? prove it.

 

[jc456]

AGW is the science of pointing at the Weather Channel and yelling, MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING!!!!"

If they were smart they'd invest in mountain top real estate.

Antarctic ice shelves are melting dramatically study finds Environment The Guardian

hahahaahahahahahahahahahahhaa

 

[jc456]

AGW is the science of pointing at the Weather Channel and yelling, MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING!!!!"

The only science known to climate change deniers is the science of mass media deception. It's funny to watch them repeat the same hackneyed phrases over and over again, as if they had actual meaning. The foundation of their fable is that all the scientists who agree that the climate is changing, for what ever reason, are obviously getting government grants or are in the direct employ of the government, thereby creating a conflict of interest and bogus science. A claim none of the deniers ever bothers to substantiate, in any way, shape , or form. The whole premise is a laughably childish preemptive tactic, designed to distract from the obvious conclusion that the small minority of scientists who deny climate change are all obviously in the employ of energy corporations and right wing institutions.

it's funny to see the warmers drift from the questions from the other side. They have no answers, ask a question, get a model. It isn't how it works. See that's what you don't see. We see that the earth is not agreeing with the models and the data is being adjusted to prove the models, they , warmers, admit it is recalculated, several on here from the warmers admit it, state all data needs to be adjusted, got into a discussion with car odometers and calibration needs as a an argument on why. So if you want to post here that the data isn't adjusted, then you are on the wrong side of that argument.

 

[jc456]

AGW is the science of pointing at the Weather Channel and yelling, MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING!!!!"

The only science known to climate change deniers is the science of mass media deception. It's funny to watch them repeat the same hackneyed phrases over and over again, as if they had actual meaning. The foundation of their fable is that all the scientists who agree that the climate is changing, for what ever reason, are obviously getting government grants or are in the direct employ of the government, thereby creating a conflict of interest and bogus science. A claim none of the deniers ever bothers to substantiate, in any way, shape , or form. The whole premise is a laughably childish preemptive tactic, designed to distract from the obvious conclusion that the small minority of scientists who deny climate change are all obviously in the employ of energy corporations and right wing institutions.

The only people who have a mantra is the warmist silly people. Just repeat after me, "the science is settled", "the science is settled", "the science is settled", "the science is settled" ad infinitum.... It's all you got.

consensus, consensus, consensus.......

 

[Liminal]

AGW is the science of pointing at the Weather Channel and yelling, MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING!!!!"

The only science known to climate change deniers is the science of mass media deception. It's funny to watch them repeat the same hackneyed phrases over and over again, as if they had actual meaning. The foundation of their fable is that all the scientists who agree that the climate is changing, for what ever reason, are obviously getting government grants or are in the direct employ of the government, thereby creating a conflict of interest and bogus science. A claim none of the deniers ever bothers to substantiate, in any way, shape , or form. The whole premise is a laughably childish preemptive tactic, designed to distract from the obvious conclusion that the small minority of scientists who deny climate change are all obviously in the employ of energy corporations and right wing institutions.

it's funny to see the warmers drift from the questions from the other side. They have no answers, ask a question, get a model. It isn't how it works. See that's what you don't see. We see that the earth is not agreeing with the models and the data is being adjusted to prove the models, they , warmers, admit it is recalculated, several on here from the warmers admit it, state all data needs to be adjusted, got into a discussion with car odometers and calibration needs as a an argument on why. So if you want to post here that the data isn't adjusted, then you are on the wrong side of that argument.

Is that the consensus on FOX News?

 

[Liminal]

We deny AGW because there is no AGW. It's as simple as that.

I'm sure it's just that simple.

well you still haven't proved it.

Perhaps we should ask a geologist.
Geologists and climate change denial

 

[Liminal]

AGW is the science of pointing at the Weather Channel and yelling, MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING!!!!"

If they were smart they'd invest in mountain top real estate.

Antarctic ice shelves are melting dramatically study finds Environment The Guardian

hahahaahahahahahahahahahahhaa

Your most eloquent rebuttal.

 

[Old Rocks]

I have been watching videos from the AGU fall conferance since 2009. I have yet to see anything presented there that would give the deniers any comfort. And even the latest issue of Geology, the Geological Society of America's journal, has a good deal of information concerning past climate changes.

 

[Old Rocks]

One of those videos.

 

[Liminal]

I have been watching videos from the AGU fall conferance since 2009. I have yet to see anything presented there that would give the deniers any comfort. And even the latest issue of Geology, the Geological Society of America's journal, has a good deal of information concerning past climate changes.

I think when some people refer to "geologists" they mean this kind of geologist.
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[Ernie S.]

We deny AGW because there is no AGW. It's as simple as that.

I'm sure it's just that simple.

well you still haven't proved it.

Perhaps we should ask a geologist.
Geologists and climate change denial

Perhaps we should ask someone with no financial or political stake.