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Taxpayers weren’t subsidizing my labor costs. I was paying out at 50% of my top dollar earned in taxes, and from what was left over I paid for rent, insurance, raw materials to make my product, advertising and marketing, business equipment, and staff compensation. NONE of my employees were being subsidized.

So why all the resentment for small business owners who took a risk and then ended up providing livelihoods for four other people - all while providing a much-needed product? Could it be that you hate when someone shows that motivation, discipline, and skill can pay off - and doesn’t just take handouts from other people?

P.S. I am curious to how many people YOUR business employed, and what the lowest and highest salaries were. Thanks.
Businesses paying low wages are having their labor costs subsidized by taxpayers. I have a problem with my taxes subsidizing the lifestyle of business owners that pay Americans slave wages. What part of $7.25/hour doesn’t afford housing anywhere in the US is unclear?

Conservatives all see themselves as captains of industry. They have no respect for the labor of hard working Americans.
 
No. This liberal thinks conservatives are simply greedy. Business owners don’t pay more because taxpayers have been subsidizing their labor costs. Make no mistake, that shit will end.

Raise the minimum wage.
You aren't a liberal, you are a lefty, I have more liberal ideals than you.
 
Does it not occur to you that companies have a wide range of salaries, with only a small percentage of people with very minimal job skills - like delivering mail - are earning the minimum? And many highly skilled and talented earning six figures?
I completely understand that. I also understand that republic pols have kept the MW from being what it was worth 10 years ago in todays dollars. That benefit has followed to you at a cost to your employees whose buying power has eroded.
 
I completely understand that. I also understand that republic pols have kept the MW from being what it was worth 10 years ago in todays dollars. That benefit has followed to you at a cost to your employees whose buying power has eroded.
Not me. Why are you assuming so much about someone you know nothing about? I was paying $10/hr in the 90s - and that only to the part-time teenager who could use extra cash. i sold my business around 2005.

Truly, you should be applauding people like me. I gave up a secure job in the 80s because I had a great idea, made sacrifices, had to work out of my apartment the first couple of years with NO help, and eventually created livelihoods for four other people, excluding myself. I paid my top guy $70,000….good money in the 90s. I even did a favor to the teen, who needed spending money, and paid her above market.

You really need to understand that small business owners contribute a lot to this country, creating the majority of jobs, and providing needed products and services, instead of reviling us as some awful rich people.
 
Not me. Why are you assuming so much about someone you know nothing about? I was paying $10/hr in the 90s - and that only to the part-time teenager who could use extra cash. i sold my business around 2005.

Truly, you should be applauding people like me. I gave up a secure job in the 80s because I had a great idea, made sacrifices, had to work out of my apartment the first couple of years with NO help, and eventually created livelihoods for four other people, excluding myself. I paid my top guy $70,000….good money in the 90s. I even did a favor to the teen, who needed spending money, and paid her above market.

You really need to understand that small business owners contribute a lot to this country, creating the majority of jobs, and providing needed products and services, instead is reviling us as some awful rich people.
You keep referring to yourself, but sourcing all small businesses. Do you personally know that all those other small business operators were doing the same as you?

Also, small business don't create the majority of jobs in the US. That is a republic myth they use to sell you their economic brand of small business soap.
 
You keep referring to yourself, but sourcing all small businesses. Do you personally know that all those other small business operators were doing the same as you?

Also, small business don't create the majority of jobs in the US. That is a republic myth they use to sell you their economic brand of small business soap.
First, I am referring to myself because you keep referring to me and my business, as in….subsidizing my workers with tax subsidies. So I am explaining why you are wrong.

Second, small businesses do indeed create the majority of jobs in thr U.S. - 64% of them. (link below) That is why it is so harmful when liberals denigrate small businesses, set up government to compete with them (by paying their potential workers so much they refuse to take jobs), and suffocating them with high taxes.

Third, am I really so unusual in paying staff well? (I know I’m generous, but I couldn’t be the only one!) Plenty of business owners pay well more than required, and mainly because the caliber of what you can get at the very bottom wage is pretty bad (and raising that bottom wage doesn’t make them any more helpful.)

Once liberals stop villifying motivated, talented, risk-takers as some evil entity to be squashed, our country will be better off.

 
First, I am referring to myself because you keep referring to me and my business, as in….subsidizing my workers with tax subsidies. So I am explaining why you are wrong.

Second, small businesses do indeed create the majority of jobs in thr U.S. - 64% of them. (link below) That is why it is so harmful when liberals denigrate small businesses, set up government to compete with them (by paying their potential workers so much they refuse to take jobs), and suffocating them with high taxes.

Third, am I really so unusual in paying staff well? (I know I’m generous, but I couldn’t be the only one!) Plenty of business owners pay well more than required, and mainly because the caliber of what you can get at the very bottom wage is pretty bad (and raising that bottom wage doesn’t make them any more helpful.)

Once liberals stop villifying motivated, talented, risk-takers as some evil entity to be squashed, our country will be better off.

Nobody is vilifying small business and you don't employ anyone anymore.

Also, no.

Debunking the Myth of Small Business Job Creation
 
Nobody is vilifying small business and you don't employ anyone anymore.

Also, no.

Debunking the Myth of Small Business Job Creation
So you’re linking to a liberal source? Of course they’re going to put down business, and they did so by redefining small business. That’s how they got the numbers to be low. Very sneaky.

My link showed that small businesses create the majority of jobs.
 
So you’re linking to a liberal source? Of course they’re going to put down business, and they did so by redefining small business. That’s how they got the numbers to be low. Very sneaky.

My link showed that small businesses create the majority of jobs.
MIT is a liberal source?

You Googled it and took the first thing that popped up. It's a myth.
 
MIT is a liberal source?

You Googled it and took the first thing that popped up. It's a myth.
No it isn’t. And any source affiliated with a university is going to be liberal.

And see what you’re doing? Trying SOOOOO hard to show that small businesses aren’t the backbone of this country, and without them, more than half the country couldn’t find a job. We’d have a massive move of previously self-supporting workers onto welfare.

Perhaps that’s the plan.
 
No it isn’t. And any source affiliated with a university is going to be liberal.

And see what you’re doing? Trying SOOOOO hard to show that small businesses aren’t the backbone of this country, and without them, more than half the country couldn’t find a job. We’d have a massive move of previously self-supporting workers onto welfare.

Perhaps that’s the plan.
Small business creates unemployment at higher rates as they go in and out of business at far greater rates. Hardly a backbone of our economy.

Your point lacks depth and context.
 
Small business creates unemployment at higher rates as they go in and out of business at far greater rates. Hardly a backbone of our economy.

Your point lacks depth and context.
Wow. Some pretzel twisting there to deny the value that small business creates for this country.

Your attitude reeks of socialism and will be the undoing of this country.
 
Wow. Some pretzel twisting there to deny the value that small business creates for this country.

Your attitude reeks of socialism and will be the undoing of this country.


I'm not denying the value off small business. I'm putting it in context.

Do you really think that your small business was as important as say Boeing?

You employed 4 people for about 10 years, where Boeing has employed 100's of thousands.
 
I'm not denying the value off small business. I'm putting it in context.

Do you really think that your small business was as important as say Boeing?

You employed 4 people for about 10 years, where Boeing has employed 100's of thousands.
So that’s ONE company. There are tens of millions of small businesses, and all combined create more jobs than the large corporations.

Your disdain for motivated individuals, with talent and gumption, who start and run a successful business jumps off the screens. Why?? Because it shows that people can indeed make successes of their lives with the right decisions and personal traits. The converse is that people make failures of their lives with the wrong decisions and personal traits - and that’s something liberals won’t admit.

Something tells me you hold a welfare recipient in higher regard than a small business owner.
 
So that’s ONE company. There are tens of millions of small businesses, and all combined create more jobs than the large corporations.

Your disdain for motivated individuals, with talent and gumption, who start and run a successful business jumps off the screens. Why?? Because it shows that people can indeed make successes of their lives with the right decisions and personal traits. The converse is that people make failures of their lives with the wrong decisions and personal traits - and that’s something liberals won’t admit.

Something tells me you hold a welfare recipient in higher regard than a small business owner.
I don't have distain for small business, so stop with the meaningless crap.

Yeah, small business which go in and out of business both creating jobs and destroying them. Why can't you see that.
 
I don't have distain for small business, so stop with the meaningless crap.

Yeah, small business which go in and out of business both creating jobs and destroying them. Why can't you see that.
You are showing quite a lot of disdain for small businesses in fact, as you work hard to deny the value they contribute to this country. It makes it easier for you to support policies that put them out of business or otherwise make it hard for them to turn a profit.
 

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