Gary Johnson Gains Support And May Take Ohio Out of Play for Romney

[Soulless65]

Gary Johnson Gains Support And May Take Ohio Out of Play for Romney - Hit & Run : Reason.com

Conducted September 21-22, a Gravis Marketing/Capitol Correspondent poll first asked the usual Obama or Romney question, which revealed a tight race. (The full results are here.)

Obama/Biden: 45.2%
Other/Unsure: 10.4%
Romney/Ryan: 44.3%
Then, Gary Johnson was added.

Johnson: 10.6%
Obama/Biden: 44.5%
Other/Unsure: 7.1%
Romney/Ryan: 37.8%
Not so tight, anymore. And Johnson's numbers are up from September 7-8, when he pulled 4.5% in Ohio.

If this is a break from the usual all-power-to-the-institutional-parties phenomenon, why would that happen? Well, note that, in Ohio, both Romney and Obama have higher unfavorables than favorables. When asked about Obama's job performance, 46.4 percent disapprove, and 45.3 percent approve (8.3 percent are unsure). When asked their opinions of Romney, 44.4% are unfavorable and 41.1 percent are favorable (14.6 percent are, somehow, still unsure).

Interesting isn't

 

[Oddball]

hmmmm....

 

[Black_Label]

This is something I don't know why the other polls aren't doing by factoring in the 3rd party candidates, especially Johnson

Every poll i've seen where they do include johnson, Willard's numbers plunge.

 

[jwoodie]

Interesting. And disturbing.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Gary Johnson Gains Support And May Take Ohio Out of Play for Romney - Hit & Run : Reason.com

The usual wisdom is that, as election day grows closer, support for third-party candidates tends to shrivel as the voting public heeds the tribal war drums and comes home to Team Red or Team Blue in a ritualistic display of political masochism that could be topped only by the sight of actual hair-shirted flagellants lined up to enter the polling booths. That third-party shrinkage may not be happening this year, though — or not yet, at least. A new poll from Ohio shows Gary Johnson gaining support, even as press reports emphasize the hold-your-nose-quality in which both major-party candidates marinate, and which may have voters looking elsewhere for options.

Conducted September 21-22, a Gravis Marketing/Capitol Correspondent poll first asked the usual Obama or Romney question, which revealed a tight race. (The full results are here.)

Obama/Biden: 45.2%
Other/Unsure: 10.4%
Romney/Ryan: 44.3%
Then, Gary Johnson was added.

Johnson: 10.6%
Obama/Biden: 44.5%
Other/Unsure: 7.1%
Romney/Ryan: 37.8%
Not so tight, anymore. And Johnson's numbers are up from September 7-8, when he pulled 4.5% in Ohio.

If this is a break from the usual all-power-to-the-institutional-parties phenomenon, why would that happen? Well, note that, in Ohio, both Romney and Obama have higher unfavorables than favorables. When asked about Obama's job performance, 46.4 percent disapprove, and 45.3 percent approve (8.3 percent are unsure). When asked their opinions of Romney, 44.4% are unfavorable and 41.1 percent are favorable (14.6 percent are, somehow, still unsure).

The recent nation-wide Reason-Rupe Poll (PDF) also found both Obama and Romney upside down in terms of public opinion, with 50 percent disapproving of the president's performance on the economy* compared to 47 percent approval, and 49 percent holding an unfavorable opinion of Romney compared to 41 percent favoring him. That poll found national support for Johnson at six percent.

rest at the link.


Sorry if this was already posted. I don't think Johnson will actually pull 10% in Ohio come election time, but it's interesting to see that he's potentially putting Romney on the outs in Ohio.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

The usual wisdom is that, as election day grows closer, support for third-party candidates tends to shrivel as the voting public heeds the tribal war drums and comes home to Team Red or Team Blue in a ritualistic display of political masochism that could be topped only by the sight of actual hair-shirted flagellants lined up to enter the polling booths. That third-party shrinkage may not be happening this year, though — or not yet, at least. A new poll from Ohio shows Gary Johnson gaining support, even as press reports emphasize the hold-your-nose-quality in which both major-party candidates marinate, and which may have voters looking elsewhere for options.

Conducted September 21-22, a Gravis Marketing/Capitol Correspondent poll first asked the usual Obama or Romney question, which revealed a tight race. (The full results are here.)

Obama/Biden: 45.2%
Other/Unsure: 10.4%
Romney/Ryan: 44.3%

Then, Gary Johnson was added.

Johnson: 10.6%
Obama/Biden: 44.5%
Other/Unsure: 7.1%
Romney/Ryan: 37.8%

Not so tight, anymore. And Johnson's numbers are up from September 7-8, when he pulled 4.5% in Ohio.

Gary Johnson Gains Support And May Take Ohio Out of Play for Romney - Hit & Run : Reason.com

Interesting development.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Sorry for the repost, mods.

 

[MisterBeale]

This is something I don't know why the other polls aren't doing by factoring in the 3rd party candidates, especially Johnson

Every poll i've seen where they do include johnson, Willard's numbers plunge.

Because if the other major published polls in major media outlets printed his name and what he was polling, or even that there was someone else running on the ballot, people might investigate his name and see what he stands for. Then he might poll more.

 

[Soulless65]

This is something I don't know why the other polls aren't doing by factoring in the 3rd party candidates, especially Johnson

Every poll i've seen where they do include johnson, Willard's numbers plunge.

Because if the other major published polls in major media outlets printed his name and what he was polling, or even that there was someone else running on the ballot, people might investigate his name and see what he stands for. Then he might poll more.

Yeah man got to keep the two party fraud moving

 

[Old Rocks]

Ohio is already out of play for Romney.

Ohio President Obama 5.4 7 polls, all for Obama

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Ohio: Romney vs. Obama

 

[Joshuatree]

When libertarians of Ohio realize that if they vote for Johnson they will help Obama get elected they will vote for Romney instead. They will remember that the perfect is the enemy of the good. Or at least, I hope so.

 

[October]

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[Soulless65]

When libertarians of Ohio realize that if they vote for Johnson they will help Obama get elected they will vote for Romney instead. They will remember that the perfect is the enemy of the good. Or at least, I hope so.

So the answer to are problems as a nation is to elect another Socialist thanks but no thanks

 

[ILF]

Glad to see people in Ohio are paying attention to the best candidate in this election.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

When libertarians of Ohio realize that if they vote for Johnson they will help Obama get elected they will vote for Romney instead. They will remember that the perfect is the enemy of the good. Or at least, I hope so.

The question is, why should libertarians care, and how could you possibly describe Romney as "good?"

 

[AquaAthena]

Interesting. And disturbing.

I found this also interesting and not at all disturbing:

David Kirby, a fellow at the Cato Institute, just released a survey that finds libertarians are indeed do plan to vote for the Romney/Ryan ticket. Most importantly, Kirby suggests that the selection of Ayn Rand individualist Rep. Paul Ryan as Romney's VP appears "to be working" among libertarian-minded voters.

Libertarian Republican: Cato survey finds more libertarians voting for Romney, most likely due to Ryan's selection

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Interesting. And disturbing.

I found this also interesting and not at all disturbing:

David Kirby, a fellow at the Cato Institute, just released a survey that finds libertarians are indeed do plan to vote for the Romney/Ryan ticket. Most importantly, Kirby suggests that the selection of Ayn Rand individualist Rep. Paul Ryan as Romney's VP appears "to be working" among libertarian-minded voters.

Libertarian Republican: Cato survey finds more libertarians voting for Romney, most likely due to Ryan's selection

Well, if, according to this survey, Paul Ryan is an "individualist," I'd like to know who qualifies as a "libertarian."

 

[Oddball]

This libertarian ain't falling for the charade.

Ryan is phony as a $3.00 bill...He wouldn't even be on the GOP ticket were he not a good little party man buttboi.

 

[Dissent]

Gary Johnson Gains Support And May Take Ohio Out of Play for Romney

Sweet! Damn might I say this election may be the first were people don't pick the lesser of 2 evils they actually vote for who they feel represents their views!? By now I would expect everyone except the true Libertarians and Liberty lovers to jump on one of the 2 idiots bandwagons...this is gonna be one hell of an ass whipping Willard is going to get.

 

[uscitizen]

Ryan is a career politician.
It is all he has ever done.