Gang shootings in Britain are escalating...but, they banned and confiscated guns, right?

And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.

Done now? Good. Now, compare their gun related deaths to the U.S.. They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing.
So you are calling for bans and confiscations and totally ignoring the 2nd Amendment ?

I'm sure it's hard for you to separate the voices in your head from what you read here. but you should at least try.
"They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing."
Tell us how did the UK do it right and explain how that wouldn't ignore our Constitution.
 
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.

Done now? Good. Now, compare their gun related deaths to the U.S.. They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing.
So you are calling for bans and confiscations and totally ignoring the 2nd Amendment ?

I'm sure it's hard for you to separate the voices in your head from what you read here. but you should at least try.
"They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing."
Tell us how did the UK do it right and explain how that wouldn't ignore our Constitution.

I'm not sure of all they have done, but you can't argue with such low gun related death rates, unless you are a brain dead gun nut. They would argue with a pine tree.
 
Look at t
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.
Look at the numbers mr Star Wars
I'm guessing lower than a weekend in phila.
Ever lived there for any length of time?
Of course not.
Just spewing?
Go live there and feel safe!
 
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.

Done now? Good. Now, compare their gun related deaths to the U.S.. They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing.
So you are calling for bans and confiscations and totally ignoring the 2nd Amendment ?

I'm sure it's hard for you to separate the voices in your head from what you read here. but you should at least try.
"They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing."
Tell us how did the UK do it right and explain how that wouldn't ignore our Constitution.
Maybe they don't have a piece of paper written by slave owners and slave rapists
 
Look at t
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.
Look at the numbers mr Star Wars
I'm guessing lower than a weekend in phila.
Ever lived there for any length of time?
Of course not.
Just spewing?
Go live there and feel safe!

My theory is that we are a nation founded by aggressive convicts and religious nuts. What do we expect?
Way ahead in murders compared with really civilized countries
 
Gun numbers have risen to above gun-ban levels. So it's no wonder gun crime is on the rise.
No what it shows is that criminals don't give a shit about laws.

Proud vet?
"If you are not smart enough to get a real job, join the military.
Better than working and great socialist benefits"
Military, the number two indoctrination after religio

Biggest company in our world. Remember Ike?
 
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.
New statistics from where exactly? New statistics show the Trump Tax cuts went solely to Trump's family. See how that works? derp.
 
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.

Done now? Good. Now, compare their gun related deaths to the U.S.. They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing.


Guns don't kill people, stupid people do. Children don't die because of US gun laws, they are killed because of liberal "gun-free zones" and liberal "poverty zones" (black inner cities where the Liberal Politicians never go). The NRA doesn't cost lives, anti-gun groups do because if the NRA was allowed to institute half the training and safety classes they try to do, most gun crime and deaths in this country would disappear.
 
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.

Done now? Good. Now, compare their gun related deaths to the U.S.. They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing.


Guns don't kill people, stupid people do. Children don't die because of US gun laws, they are killed because of liberal "gun-free zones" and liberal "poverty zones" (black inner cities where the Liberal Politicians never go). The NRA doesn't cost lives, anti-gun groups do because if the NRA was allowed to institute half the training and safety classes they try to do, most gun crime and deaths in this country would disappear.

The NRA pushes for as many gun sales as possible. You crazy? Doesn't matter. The NRA will defend crazy people having as many guns as they can afford.
 
Gun numbers have risen to above gun-ban levels. So it's no wonder gun crime is on the rise.
No what it shows is that criminals don't give a shit about laws.

Proud vet?
"If you are not smart enough to get a real job, join the military.
Better than working and great socialist benefits"
Military, the number two indoctrination after religio

Biggest company in our world. Remember Ike?
I joined up at 26 so I wasn't some snot nosed teenager straight out of high school and I took a huge paycheck hit when I signed up. I did things that people who complain about the service,. people like yourself, would cry and shit their pants and my job was managing networks and computer systems. At one posting I managed close to 800 computers at another I managed email servers and the network for a Joint Military Intelligence Command. So in all likelihood I couldn't think as slow as people like yourself if I tried.

FYI Military personel are better educated than the general public.
Fact Of The Day #44: U.S. Military Better Educated Than Populace It Protects (INFOGRAPHIC) | HuffPost


I'm not sure why the offtopic attack on my proud service but it was amusing schooling you on reality
 
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.

Done now? Good. Now, compare their gun related deaths to the U.S.. They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing.


Guns don't kill people, stupid people do. Children don't die because of US gun laws, they are killed because of liberal "gun-free zones" and liberal "poverty zones" (black inner cities where the Liberal Politicians never go). The NRA doesn't cost lives, anti-gun groups do because if the NRA was allowed to institute half the training and safety classes they try to do, most gun crime and deaths in this country would disappear.

The NRA pushes for as many gun sales as possible. You crazy? Doesn't matter. The NRA will defend crazy people having as many guns as they can afford.
I haven't seen the NRA defend "crazy" people what I have seen is a defence of due process.
 
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.

Done now? Good. Now, compare their gun related deaths to the U.S.. They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing.
So you are calling for bans and confiscations and totally ignoring the 2nd Amendment ?

I'm sure it's hard for you to separate the voices in your head from what you read here. but you should at least try.
"They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing."
Tell us how did the UK do it right and explain how that wouldn't ignore our Constitution.

I'm not sure of all they have done, but you can't argue with such low gun related death rates, unless you are a brain dead gun nut. They would argue with a pine tree.
This is were all gun debates end. You Liberals start with noone is trying to take away firearms, inevitably the argument leads to you lefties mentioning the UK or Australia two countries who literally banned firearms
 
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.

More bullshit. You really need to learn to read things and understand them.

Number one, guns aren't banned in the UK. An estimated 4% of people own guns. But you knew that and yet you come on here time and time and time again and peddle this shit.

Number two, the article says:

"There were 350 shootings in the 12 months to the middle of January compared with 310 in the previous 12 months. "

So, there's a surge, from 350 shootings in 12 months from 310 shootings in 12 months. This isn't murders, it's shooting. But let's compare shootings in London, population 8 million, with murders in the US by state.

Murder in the United States by state - Wikipedia

Alabama. Population 4 million, half the size of London. Murder rate, 348 in 2015. Okay, so London's shooting number is about the same as Alabama's murder rate. Taking that about 3/4ths of murders in the US are with guns, that makes it at about 261 gun murders for a population HALF that of London. So, if it were the same size it would be 522 gun murders in Alabama to 350 shootings in London.

Texas, 27 million people, 1,316 murders. So, 987 gun murders. Texas is 3.375 times larger than London in terms of population. So, divide that 292 gun murders in Texas to 350 shootings in London. Yeah, Texas has a slightly LOWER rate of gun murders than London has a shootings. But then we're comparing shootings with murders. Big difference.

A little bit of understanding might make you look a little less foolish.


Gun crime is up 42% in London....they banned handguns and make it impossible for normal people to own limited shotguns ....and yet the criminals don't have a problem....dumb shit.....

Again, you use murder? Why? Their criminals do not murder their victims.....yet, as often as ours do....but their gun criminals are getting younger, and they are now shooting to kill more......

They banned guns...their gun crime went up....their gun murder went up too.....it leveled off at the same rate it was at before they banned guns...their gun control laws had no effect on their gun murder rate.....

Why are you so fucking stupid?
 
Gun numbers have risen to above gun-ban levels. So it's no wonder gun crime is on the rise.
No what it shows is that criminals don't give a shit about laws.

No, it doesn't actually.

Criminals in London are far less likely to use the guns they own than criminals in the US are. Why? They fear losing those guns. In the US there's a ready supply of guns. In the UK it's far more difficult to get guns, and far more expensive. Doesn't mean they don't use them. But like my previous post, there are a LOT LESS uses of guns in the UK than the US.


Moron...as more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rate went down, including murder....in Britain, they banned guns...and their gun crime rate went up....on an island nation...

U.S.....as we went from 320 million guns to close to 600 million guns. As we went from 4.7 million people carrying guns to over 16.3 million people carrying guns....

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Britain....after they banned guns in 1996...


U.K. Begins Another Gun Surrender Initiative Amid Increase in Gun Crime


The United Kingdom's National Ballistics Intelligence Service (NABIS) is conducting a new gun surrender program from Nov. 13 to Nov. 26 after gun crime in England and Wales increased by more than a quarter in the past year.

The Office for National Statistics found a 27 percent increase in crimes involving firearms during its most recent review of crime data. Despite a near ban on the civilian ownership of handguns the review found crimes committed with handguns increased by 25 percent and accounted for the majority of gun crimes. The agency said the increases in 2016 were part of a multiyear trend.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html


The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .





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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

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He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

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Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.




 
Gun numbers have risen to above gun-ban levels. So it's no wonder gun crime is on the rise.
No what it shows is that criminals don't give a shit about laws.

No, it doesn't actually.

Criminals in London are far less likely to use the guns they own than criminals in the US are. Why? They fear losing those guns. In the US there's a ready supply of guns. In the UK it's far more difficult to get guns, and far more expensive. Doesn't mean they don't use them. But like my previous post, there are a LOT LESS uses of guns in the UK than the US.


Moron...from today....


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/23/london-mayor-urged-to-tackle-gun-as-offences-rise


The mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has been urged to consider a gun crime strategy for the capital, following a steep rise in the number of offences and fears that victims and perpetrators are getting younger.

The Metropolitan police recorded 2,542 gun crime offences in 2017, the highest number in five years and 44% more than the 1,755 recorded in 2014, according to a report by the London assembly’s police and crime committee.

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About a third of the victims of gun crime and almost three in five offenders were aged 25 or under in the 12 months to October 2017, according to the assembly’s report. There were anecdotal suggestions from police and a senior trauma doctor that they were seeing younger victims than in the past.

Drug dealing and gang activity were identified as the main drivers of gun crime, with gangs said to account for nearly half of all offences where lethal guns – as opposed to non-lethal airguns or stun guns – were fired.
 
Yep.....Britain banned guns....and now they have more gun crime and more violent crime and the shooters are getting younger and younger....


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/23/london-mayor-urged-to-tackle-gun-as-offences-rise


The mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has been urged to consider a gun crime strategy for the capital, following a steep rise in the number of offences and fears that victims and perpetrators are getting younger.

The Metropolitan police recorded 2,542 gun crime offences in 2017, the highest number in five years and 44% more than the 1,755 recorded in 2014, according to a report by the London assembly’s police and crime committee.

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About a third of the victims of gun crime and almost three in five offenders were aged 25 or under in the 12 months to October 2017, according to the assembly’s report. There were anecdotal suggestions from police and a senior trauma doctor that they were seeing younger victims than in the past.

Drug dealing and gang activity were identified as the main drivers of gun crime, with gangs said to account for nearly half of all offences where lethal guns – as opposed to non-lethal airguns or stun guns – were fired.
 
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.

Done now? Good. Now, compare their gun related deaths to the U.S.. They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing.
So you are calling for bans and confiscations and totally ignoring the 2nd Amendment ?

I'm sure it's hard for you to separate the voices in your head from what you read here. but you should at least try.
"They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing."
Tell us how did the UK do it right and explain how that wouldn't ignore our Constitution.

I'm not sure of all they have done, but you can't argue with such low gun related death rates, unless you are a brain dead gun nut. They would argue with a pine tree.


Moron.....gun murder didn't go down in Britain.....it spiked for 10 years after the ban, then returned to the same level....their gun control laws didn't effect their gun murder rate.


Their gun control laws didn't reduce their gun violence....that has been going up steadily.......

moron.
 
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.

Done now? Good. Now, compare their gun related deaths to the U.S.. They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing.
If we thought we needed to do what the UK was doing we would still be a colony
 
And here we have it....more gang shootings in the island nation that banned and confiscated guns.......

And before the anti gunners say....in a whiny voice..."But...But.....compare that to the U.S...."

They banned and confiscated guns.

They are an island nation, without easy accessible borders.

And their gun crime rate is going up....and their criminals are now starting to shoot to kill, they are not playing around anymore.

Surge in London gangland shootings as record 880 guns seized in a year

The number of gangland shootings in London has surged as criminals used weapons to intimidate rivals and settle disputes.

New statistics reveal “lethal barrel firearms discharges” in the capital rose by nearly 13 per cent in 2017. Police also seized a record number of guns.
——-
Detectives say they are also witnessing an increase in the number of linked shootings — most involving gangs firing weapons at rivals or their property.

Done now? Good. Now, compare their gun related deaths to the U.S.. They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing.
So you are calling for bans and confiscations and totally ignoring the 2nd Amendment ?

I'm sure it's hard for you to separate the voices in your head from what you read here. but you should at least try.
"They're doing it right. We need to do what they are doing."
Tell us how did the UK do it right and explain how that wouldn't ignore our Constitution.

I'm not sure of all they have done, but you can't argue with such low gun related death rates, unless you are a brain dead gun nut. They would argue with a pine tree.

The UK has had a lower total murder rate than the US for as far back as I can find.

And their gun laws have absolutely nothing to do with that. In fact murder rates in the UK increased after they passed their gun laws
 

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