Fueling America

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    In the "solutions" section of the article, nothing was mentioned about oil shale and coal gasification. Why?

     
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    By Federal Lands are we talking National Parks? Funny how we entrust the government with preserving our lands and then they turn around and call us liberals and environmentalists when we don't want to exploit it for capital gain. I hardly believe Hatch and Allard are socialists, so it'd be opened up to big oil only. The quickest solution to the gas crisis right now is the mass production of cars with better fuel efficiency. A 6 month wait for hybrids...the demand is there.
     
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    No we are not referring to "Nationa Parks." See map below. Fuel efficient cars will be good, but that still leaves us dependent on foreign oil. We must develop what we have. We must reduce the foreign policy distortions that result from the West's energy dependency on the Middle East and Russia. So far in this thread, we have mentioned oil shale and the more than one trillion barrels of energy it offers. Included in the discussion should be coal gasification. As great is the energy potential of oil shale, coal offers even more potential. The short form is that we have the hydrocarbon energy we need right here in the lower 48. We know how to reclaim and sequester carbon. We do not need to go to Alaska or drill offshore. Do we want to pay Saudi Arabia, Iran, Chavez, and Putin $145 per barrel or $50 to $60 per barrel to the northern plains and mountain states?

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    For a map of US National Parks, go here: US National Parks Pictures: map
     
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    i dont understand the politics behind energy. dems only want to use renewable energy, repubs only want to use oil. why not work equally hard on becoming self sustaining in both? it seems obvious that we cant rely solely on one or the other
     
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    The problem is that the dems are without exception opposed to any progress, period. They won't let us develop our own oil fields, they tax the crap out of it, they penalize people for producing oil...then they act all shocked and shaken when there's an energy crisis.

    They insist that we conserve water...then hike the rates. They insist that we buy smaller, more economical cars...then impose toll taxes to make up the difference in $$ they would be receiving in fuel tax. They won't let us develop and make use of our own resources, then stamp their feet and insist that "somebody" provide the unemployed with jobs or income, and accuse others of hiking prices.

    It's crazy.

    Flipping idiots.
     
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    you cant say this is all the dems fault. you must realize fault lies on both sides
     
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    Yes, I can and do say it's the dems fault. There aren't any GOP environmental activists to my knowledge, nor have the Republicans historically nixed anything that means progress, in terms of the harvesting of natural resources.
     
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