From older Americans-Long live democracy.

[gipper]

I find it astonishing that anyone could think that handing more and more power to a government, any government, is progress and evolution.

If anything, it is regression and deevolution.

We’re way passed that my friend. The US government has unlimited power and has for sometime. It violates the constitution millions of times a day, yet few speak of it. Now, a good percentage of our population are conditioned to do as they are told by Uncle and his communication department, the MSM. Should Biden dictate all must wear masks, get the vaccine, and stay home or face fines and prison time, millions will obey without complaint.

You must be one of those who never paid attention to politics until fairly recently.

Why?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Here is an example of 'evolving'.


Hard to believe, but look it up on the Congressional website for HR 748 from 116th Congress.
American population: 330,483,530
Stimulus bill: $2,000,000,000,000 ($2 Trillion)
Dividing the cost by everyAmerican is $6,051.74
The government could have given every person over $6,000, but instead will give $1,200 to each adult under a certain income.
Wanna know where the missing 96% of your tax dollars went?
Here you go. . .
$300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance pg 147
$10,000 per person for student loan bailout
$100,000,000 to Nasa, because, who knows why.
$20,000,000,000 to the USPS, because why the hell not
$300,000,000 to the Endowment for the Arts - because of it
$300,000,000 for the Endowment for the Humanities/ because no one even knew that was a thing
$15,000,000 for Veterans Employment Training / for when the GI Bill isn't enough
$435,000,000 for mental health support
$30,000,000,000 for the Department of Education stabilization fund/ because that will keep people employed (all those zeros can be confusing, that’s $30 BILLION)
$200,000,000 to Safe Schools Emergency Response to Violence Program
$300,000,000 to Public Broadcasting / NPR has to be bought by the Democrats
$500,000,000 to Museums and Libraries / Who the hell knows how we are going to use it
$720,000,000 to Social Security Admin / but get this only 200,000,000 is to help people. The rest is for admin costs
$25,000,000 for Cleaning supplies for the Capitol Building / I kid you not it's on page 136
$7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries
$35,000,000 to the JFK Center for Performing Arts
$25,000,000 for additional salary for House of Representatives
$3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA
$315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs
$95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development
$300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance
$90,000,000 for the Peace Corp pg 148
$13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121
$ 9,000,000 Misc. Senate Expenses pg 134
$100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers pg 162. This of note because the Airlines are going to need billions in loans to keep them afloat.
($100,000,000 is chump change.)
$40,000,000,000 goes to the Take Responsibility to Workers and Families Act This sounds like it's direct payments for workers. Pg 164
$1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program pg 163
$25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs pg 165
$492,000,000 to National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) pg 167
$526,000,000 Grants to Amtrak to remain available if needed through 2021 pg 168 (what are the odds that doesn't go unused)
Hidden on page 174 the Secretary has 7 days to allocate the funds & notify Congress
$25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure pg 169
$3,000,000 Maritime Administration pg 172
$5,000,000 Salaries and Expensive Office of the Inspector General pg 172
$2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing pg 175
$5,000,000 Community Planning and Development pg 175
$2,500,000 Office of Housing
What DOES ALL of this have to do with the Virus????

Omnibus spending bill and relief bill were rolled into one. While my eyebrows go up at some of this, you do understand Republicans helped negotiate this bill...correct?
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to my 3 Martini breakfast!

 

[Darkwind]

The above list does NOT include the money being spent outside the country.

 

[Darkwind]

Here is an example of 'evolving'.


Hard to believe, but look it up on the Congressional website for HR 748 from 116th Congress.
American population: 330,483,530
Stimulus bill: $2,000,000,000,000 ($2 Trillion)
Dividing the cost by everyAmerican is $6,051.74
The government could have given every person over $6,000, but instead will give $1,200 to each adult under a certain income.
Wanna know where the missing 96% of your tax dollars went?
Here you go. . .
$300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance pg 147
$10,000 per person for student loan bailout
$100,000,000 to Nasa, because, who knows why.
$20,000,000,000 to the USPS, because why the hell not
$300,000,000 to the Endowment for the Arts - because of it
$300,000,000 for the Endowment for the Humanities/ because no one even knew that was a thing
$15,000,000 for Veterans Employment Training / for when the GI Bill isn't enough
$435,000,000 for mental health support
$30,000,000,000 for the Department of Education stabilization fund/ because that will keep people employed (all those zeros can be confusing, that’s $30 BILLION)
$200,000,000 to Safe Schools Emergency Response to Violence Program
$300,000,000 to Public Broadcasting / NPR has to be bought by the Democrats
$500,000,000 to Museums and Libraries / Who the hell knows how we are going to use it
$720,000,000 to Social Security Admin / but get this only 200,000,000 is to help people. The rest is for admin costs
$25,000,000 for Cleaning supplies for the Capitol Building / I kid you not it's on page 136
$7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries
$35,000,000 to the JFK Center for Performing Arts
$25,000,000 for additional salary for House of Representatives
$3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA
$315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs
$95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development
$300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance
$90,000,000 for the Peace Corp pg 148
$13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121
$ 9,000,000 Misc. Senate Expenses pg 134
$100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers pg 162. This of note because the Airlines are going to need billions in loans to keep them afloat.
($100,000,000 is chump change.)
$40,000,000,000 goes to the Take Responsibility to Workers and Families Act This sounds like it's direct payments for workers. Pg 164
$1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program pg 163
$25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs pg 165
$492,000,000 to National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) pg 167
$526,000,000 Grants to Amtrak to remain available if needed through 2021 pg 168 (what are the odds that doesn't go unused)
Hidden on page 174 the Secretary has 7 days to allocate the funds & notify Congress
$25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure pg 169
$3,000,000 Maritime Administration pg 172
$5,000,000 Salaries and Expensive Office of the Inspector General pg 172
$2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing pg 175
$5,000,000 Community Planning and Development pg 175
$2,500,000 Office of Housing
What DOES ALL of this have to do with the Virus????

Omnibus spending bill and relief bill were rolled into one. While my eyebrows go up at some of this, you do understand Republicans helped negotiate this bill...correct?
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to my 3 Martini breakfast!

I hold Republicans responsible as well.

No one read this bill. Not a single person in Congress.

This is supposedly a relief bill for people who are directly impacted by the illicit actions of their governors.

There should be NOTHING in this bill bu aid to the American people harmed by their government.

 

[JGalt]

At some point, every country, every society, every economy must evolve or it stagnates and descends into chaos or straight up dies.

Fall of the Western Roman Empire - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

.

Yeah, I think we have just a bit more fortitude than the Romans did.
We'll survive and move on.

Yup. Those Romans were a bunch of pussies. They just didn't have the fortitude or the guts needed to last any more than a thousand years. We'll show them.

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Whatever. You spend your time living in the past. The rest of us are going to evolve and move on.

Actually you won't "evolve and move on." Would you like to know why?

Because you don't remember the past. Your past is obscured by bright, shiny visions of a idyllic happyland where everyone is the same, we all drink from a fountain of fizzy soda while munching on the bid rock candy mountain, and spend the day petting the baby unicorns and pandas.

Unfortunately you don't realize that every time some idiot has tried to bring that vision to fruition, millions of people ended up being murdered.

Maybe you should pay a little more attention to what has transpired in the past. Perhaps you'd learn not to keep making the same errors over, and over, and over, and over....

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

At some point, every country, every society, every economy must evolve or it stagnates and descends into chaos or straight up dies.

Fall of the Western Roman Empire - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

.

Yeah, I think we have just a bit more fortitude than the Romans did.
We'll survive and move on.

Yup. Those Romans were a bunch of pussies. They just didn't have the fortitude or the guts needed to last any more than a thousand years. We'll show them.

View attachment 432543

Whatever. You spend your time living in the past. The rest of us are going to evolve and move on.

Actually you won't "evolve and move on." Would you like to know why?

Because you don't remember the past. Your past is obscured by bright, shiny visions of a idyllic happyland where everyone is the same, we all drink from a fountain of fizzy soda while munching on the bid rock candy mountain, and spend the day petting the baby unicorns and pandas.

Unfortunately you don't realize that every time some idiot has tried to bring that vision to fruition, millions of people ended up being murdered.

Maybe you should pay a little more attention to what has transpired in the past. Perhaps you'd learn not to keep making the same errors over, and over, and over, and over....

I've studied the Roman Empire quite a bit. And while there are some general warnings to be taken out of it...most of it doesn't apply..or is misshaped out of context to be used by people wanting to draw parallels.
I'm not going to spend my time worrying about what I consider to be the loss of "my country". I'll just wait patiently for the miscreants...to die out. In the meantime, I'm gonna go on living and trying to make the
world a better place. Feel free to scream at those kids on your lawn from your porch.

 

[occupied]

I find it astonishing that anyone could think that handing more and more power to a government, any government, is progress and evolution.

If anything, it is regression and deevolution.

We’re way passed that my friend. The US government has unlimited power and has for sometime. It violates the constitution millions of times a day, yet few speak of it. Now, a good percentage of our population are conditioned to do as they are told by Uncle and his communication department, the MSM. Should Biden dictate all must wear masks, get the vaccine, and stay home or face fines and prison time, millions will obey without complaint.

You must be one of those who never paid attention to politics until fairly recently.

Why?

You seem naive about practically everything. There is nothing new about the way the government exercises power yet there are a bunch of people who only started paying attention four years ago who are certain we are descending into tyranny.

 

[JGalt]

At some point, every country, every society, every economy must evolve or it stagnates and descends into chaos or straight up dies.

Fall of the Western Roman Empire - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

.

Yeah, I think we have just a bit more fortitude than the Romans did.
We'll survive and move on.

Yup. Those Romans were a bunch of pussies. They just didn't have the fortitude or the guts needed to last any more than a thousand years. We'll show them.

View attachment 432543

Whatever. You spend your time living in the past. The rest of us are going to evolve and move on.

Actually you won't "evolve and move on." Would you like to know why?

Because you don't remember the past. Your past is obscured by bright, shiny visions of a idyllic happyland where everyone is the same, we all drink from a fountain of fizzy soda while munching on the bid rock candy mountain, and spend the day petting the baby unicorns and pandas.

Unfortunately you don't realize that every time some idiot has tried to bring that vision to fruition, millions of people ended up being murdered.

Maybe you should pay a little more attention to what has transpired in the past. Perhaps you'd learn not to keep making the same errors over, and over, and over, and over....

I've studied the Roman Empire quite a bit. And while there are some general warnings to be taken out of it...most of it doesn't apply..or is misshaped out of context to be used by people wanting to draw parallels.
I'm not going to spend my time worrying about what I consider to be the loss of "my country". I'll just wait patiently for the miscreants...to die out. In the meantime, I'm gonna go on living and trying to make the
world a better place. Feel free to scream at those kids on your lawn from your porch.

Romans are irrelevant. You should have spent more time studying Marxism, and what it really has planned for you.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

At some point, every country, every society, every economy must evolve or it stagnates and descends into chaos or straight up dies.

Fall of the Western Roman Empire - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

.

Yeah, I think we have just a bit more fortitude than the Romans did.
We'll survive and move on.

Yup. Those Romans were a bunch of pussies. They just didn't have the fortitude or the guts needed to last any more than a thousand years. We'll show them.

View attachment 432543

Whatever. You spend your time living in the past. The rest of us are going to evolve and move on.

Actually you won't "evolve and move on." Would you like to know why?

Because you don't remember the past. Your past is obscured by bright, shiny visions of a idyllic happyland where everyone is the same, we all drink from a fountain of fizzy soda while munching on the bid rock candy mountain, and spend the day petting the baby unicorns and pandas.

Unfortunately you don't realize that every time some idiot has tried to bring that vision to fruition, millions of people ended up being murdered.

Maybe you should pay a little more attention to what has transpired in the past. Perhaps you'd learn not to keep making the same errors over, and over, and over, and over....

I've studied the Roman Empire quite a bit. And while there are some general warnings to be taken out of it...most of it doesn't apply..or is misshaped out of context to be used by people wanting to draw parallels.
I'm not going to spend my time worrying about what I consider to be the loss of "my country". I'll just wait patiently for the miscreants...to die out. In the meantime, I'm gonna go on living and trying to make the
world a better place. Feel free to scream at those kids on your lawn from your porch.

Romans are irrelevant. You should have spent more time studying Communism, and what it really is.

Nice move of the goalposts there.
Communism imploded because economically, it wasn't a viable direction long term.
We don't have to worry about that here. That word is just tossed around by people
with talking points who have no idea of it's meaning or context.

 

[Auld Phart]

I'm nearly 60 but if I live to be 120 I will never be as old in my mind as you are. I have accepted that I will have no place and no say in the world that continues after I die. The "twilight years" are too precious to spend them being bitter and angry. Come to terms with your eventual mortality before it's too late to enjoy anything ever again.

I have accepted that I will have no place and no say in the world that continues after I die.

What a terrible outlook.


What would the world be like if Washington, Lincoln, Curie, Edison, and thousands of others had felt that way?

I'm not a scientist, a politician, or an inventor, But I have had an impact on my children, and grandchildren, that I hope will last far past my demise.

 

[MarcATL]

Seriously dude, your "Great Black Hope" was a pretty crappy President. Did anything really "change"?

Yes, we now have Obamacare, and are on track to universal health care.

All of the dark forces marshaled by the Republicans, including your Great White Hope himself, couldn't stop it nor reverse it.

Thanks Obama!

 

[JGalt]

Seriously dude, your "Great Black Hope" was a pretty crappy President. Did anything really "change"?

Yes, we now have Obamacare, and are on track to universal health care.

Thanks Obama!

Obamacare never was a stunning success, nor will it ever be.

 

[MarcATL]

Obamacare never was a stunning success, nor will it ever be.

President Barack Hussein Obama will go down in history as ushering more health care for the American people.

The Great White Hope will go down in history as America's biggest turd stain.

Deal with it!

 

[Unkotare]

...

The People’s Republic runs a tight ship. It has near total control of its population...

Well, yes and no.

 

[Unkotare]

Obamacare never was a stunning success, nor will it ever be.

President Barack Hussein Obama will go down in history as ushering more health care for the American people.

The Great White Hope will go down in history as America's biggest turd stain.

Deal with it!

Keep wishing for that - real hard....

 

[Unkotare]

... The people here are no smarter than the faceless masses of China ...

The people of China are no more "faceless" than we are.

 

[rightwinger]

the drop in American IQ promulgated by colleges?

There has been a collective drop in America’s IQ as RW media spreads disinformation doubting Science, History, the weather, economics

 

[gipper]

I find it astonishing that anyone could think that handing more and more power to a government, any government, is progress and evolution.

If anything, it is regression and deevolution.

We’re way passed that my friend. The US government has unlimited power and has for sometime. It violates the constitution millions of times a day, yet few speak of it. Now, a good percentage of our population are conditioned to do as they are told by Uncle and his communication department, the MSM. Should Biden dictate all must wear masks, get the vaccine, and stay home or face fines and prison time, millions will obey without complaint.

You must be one of those who never paid attention to politics until fairly recently.

Why?

You seem naive about practically everything. There is nothing new about the way the government exercises power yet there are a bunch of people who only started paying attention four years ago who are certain we are descending into tyranny.

That’s funny. I’ve been posting on this issue for years. Apparently you aren’t good at comprehension.

 

[22lcidw]

As we age our worlds become smaller. Most of us have family but that is quickly becoming regarded as a threat to a government that first sold us out to the People’s Republic of China pharmaceutically and then used intelligence agencies to concoct Russian propaganda against a renegade president that angered the billion-strong communist hive mind.

The People’s Republic runs a tight ship. It has near total control of its population, a dream arrangement that strikes envy into the hearts of US politicians, academics, and corporate taskmasters that see American democracy as having run its course. The people here are no smarter than the faceless masses of China and giving them the power of the vote is an affront to globalizing elitist leadership. So, the greater good was to swindle them of that undeserved power with what can only be described as third-world election fraud on steroids.

It will be hard to prove that China, the main benefactor in the coup, use germ warfare as a comprehensive insurance policy to devastate the economic and industrial might of the World’s greatest democracy especially when the American Fourth Estate has devolved into propaganda ministries joining the Red Horde invading us by invitation.

Nonetheless we older Americans have avoided the drop in national IQ promulgated by American colleges and universities. At the very least we can see what is actually happening. We know that figurehead selected to occupy the White House did not get 80 million votes. We also realize that if this puppet takes the oath of office the bombings of distant civilizations will resume to enrich the political aristocracy fomenting the same brand of hatred that led to the attack on the World Trade Center in 2001.

We can be certain that if Joe Biden puts his on the Bible in January, Taiwan and Hong Kong will fall like dominoes. We are old. All we had was our vote. You saw what happened. If democracy is going to survive it is up to younger generations to take up the fight not just for American democracy but for democracy itself.

Our government, our educational apparatus and our press is now in league with our enemies. We call on you to save democracy for yourselves. Otherwise democracy will be just a word sitting in the dusty archived pages of future history books-if anyone can read them that is.

the drop in American IQ promulgated by colleges?

Spoken like a true magical thinking uneducated bitter old white man

The proof is our drop in competitive ways with other tech savvy nations. South Korea! .... South Korea designs and makes better vehicles then us. They are a high tech giant. They were an agrarian nation when our social justice programs started in the 1960's. The ghettos are still here as back then. And the South Koreans are a major economy in the world. Prove me wrong. We have lowered standards and excellence can not be attained with the quota system we have in place and the purposeful impoverishment of young white men to achieve it.

 

[gipper]

Obamacare never was a stunning success, nor will it ever be.

President Barack Hussein Obama will go down in history as ushering more health care for the American people.

The Great White Hope will go down in history as America's biggest turd stain.

Deal with it!

You mean the black mascot for Wall Street. He sucked. If only you Ds and progressives would recognize that Ears was a fucking neocon. Until then, you have no credibility.
Hey progressives! O was a fraud!