Freedom, First, Last and Always

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    I have been reading several of the posts on this board since the Arizona shootings. People who try to make political hay out of a sorrowful event such as this are below contempt. It really makes me angry to see the comments psuedo-political scientists post here to try and justify their thin political philosophy, if you can even call it a philosophy.

    Those of you who have resorted to calling names to those who oppose your point of view have already lost the battle. Instead of calling others mean and hateful names, why don't you pray for those who have been wounded and for the families of those who lost loved ones.? A little humility never hurts anyone, and that is what is needed now rather than finger pointing, attacking free speech and suggestions that more of our freedoms be taken away in the name of security, which is mostly an illusion anyway.

    I am reminded of those who from the beginning of our nation up to the present time, have spilt their blood for one reason and one reason only-FREEDOM! Americans have enjoyed these freedoms that they paid for in blood. Over the past several decades the Federal government, and some state governments have created programs that have steadily eroded our freedoms. Do you honestly think the government hands out money without the expectation of something in return? What would that be? It is nothing less than people giving up some of the freedom they have to direct their own lives and accomplish as much as they can with the abilities they have. So, what happens? It becomes a vicious circle of you vote for me or that one will take all these goodies away from you. All along more and more freedom is ceded to government.

    When John Edwards was campaigning for president he would often say "there are two Americas". His meaning was essentially the "haves" and "have nots" I disagreed with this notion, but did agree there are indeed two Americas. There are the "takers" who demand government supply their needs throughout life and there are the "producers" who work hard to obtain a good education and then put their abilities to work to better themselves and their nation. They are, however, rudely awakened when they receive their first paycheck at how much the sweat of their brow is taken by government.

    Now these two factions are at "war" with each other and you ask why there is so much vitriol in our political discourse? I have just given you the answer! Until government starts respecting and protecting the freedoms that are ours this battle will continue. The question is "Do enough of us value freedom above all else to push back and say no more, enough is enough?" We can limit government, protect our freedoms and still provide a safety net for those who are physically or mentally uinable to provide for themselves. But let us do it in freedom, not bondage!
     
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    Are you making political hay out of the AZ shooting, or did you just lose your train of thought?
     
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    this event has given the right wing a great opportunity to politicize the terrorist attack/murders while accusing liberals of "politicizing" the "tragedy"
     
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    There does seem to be a whiff of hypocrisy in the air.

    I especially liked the innuendo that "real patriots" have been shot. I have no gun wounds.....shall I just stop voting?
     
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    Well, this is a political message board. :eusa_whistle:
     
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    I just love how you come up with the "this event has given the right wing a great opportunity to politicize the terrorist attack/murders". Talk about politizing. :lol:

    Go read a few of Sangha's posts and get back to me with an apology.
     
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    LOL.

    So should the gun wounded have some sort of lil symbols, so we know whom to listen to?
     
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    I am sorry that I wrote my post a bit above your pay grade. Try reading it a couple of times and perhaps you might get the point of it all.
     
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    Maybe you should write posts in language people can understand rather than your lala land diatribe. If you can't get your point across, it is you that has the problem. Welcome to the real world.:lol:
     
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    I do believe I got your point. Your politiking around the AZ tragedy is fine and dandy and no one else's is.

    And the gun wounded among us are the "real patriots". That alone should make you popular here in Cleveland.
     

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