Freakonomics: What happened to all the criminals?

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    Has anyone read this book?
    I was going to link to it but I'm not allowed to yet.

    In one of the chapters, the author asserts that the crime wave that sociologists predicted would happen in the 90's was thwarted by Roe v. Wade. He argues that since unwanted children are the most likely to end up as criminals, that legalizing abortion prevented those people from ever being born, which resulted in a reduction in crime in the 90's, when those people would have been in their 20's.

    The question would then be, if you do believe that is true, was it worth it?
     
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    It's not true. There's no way to prove the claim that aborted children would end up as criminal. It's just another way to devalue children, put forth by the anti-child, pro-abortion set.
     
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    The author himself says that this is not a justification for abortion, and that the true answer would be to help the children who are most likely at risk to become criminals.

    He is merely pointing out a cause and effect relationship.

    Personally, I buy his case but I think it's a sad state of affairs that we in this country have neglected those who are need our help the most.

    I also would like to point out that prochoice does not equal pro-abortion or anti-child. I hate abortion, I hate that people feel they have no other choice, but I will stand up for the right of women to do it if they feel it is neccessary. and I absolutely love children. I have one of my own.
     
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    That may be what he says, but the proof is in the pudding. He's pointing out a cause and effect relationship but there's no proof that it really is a cause and effect relationship..other than his own bias.
     
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    I could try to retype the entire chapter, but how do you know that until you read it?
    And might I add that liberals were also outraged at the time by this? He really doesn't have any bias either way in the matter, other than a love of statistics and sociology/economics.
     
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    I know that because I'm really, really smart.

    I also have heard this insane argument before, and it falls flat because there is no research (how could there be?) that proves it.

    It's simply the musings of someone who wants to justify abortion and ultimately, eugenics.
     
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    HA!


    Well, maybe not really, really smart but certainly really, really funny!

    :clap2:
     
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    Humor and intelligence go hand in hand....
     
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    A well constructed argument, indeed.
     
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    where did he say you were being intentionally funny. maybe he's just laughing at you. :rofl:
     

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