'Jane Roe' of Roe v. Wade Endorses Ron Paul for President

[Paulie]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1957697/posts

http://people.ronpaul2008.com/campaign-updates/2008/01/22/jane-roe-endorses-ron-paul-on-roe-v-wade-anniversary/

Wow. That ought to be a boost from the pro-life community.

I bet if she endorsed Huckabee, it'd be all over the MSM.

Wonder WHY she didn't endorse Huckabee...hmmm...

“I support Ron Paul for president because we share the same goal, that of overturning Roe v Wade. Ron Paul doesn’t just talk about being pro-life, he acts on it. His voting record truly is impeccable and he undoubtedly understands our constitutional republic and the inalienable right to life for all. Ron Paul is the prime author of H.R. 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v. Wade. As the signor of the affidavit that legalized abortion 35 years ago I appreciate Ron Paul’s action to restore protection for the unborn. Ron Paul has also authored H.R. 1094 in Congress, which seeks to define life as beginning at conception. He has never wavered on the issue of being pro-life and has a voting record to prove it. He understands the importance of civil liberties for all, including the unborn.

“After taking all of the presidential candidates into consideration, it is obvious that Ron Paul is the only one that doesn’t just talk the talk. For this reason and those stated above, I am publicly endorsing Ron Paul for president.”

 

[AllieBaba]

Poor woman has done nothing but suffer since she was made an abortion poster girl.

It's sad how quickly pro-abortionists will turn on their own, if anybody voices any regret over their choice to have an abortion. So much for free choice.

 

[Shogun]

I know.. someone should tell her what her narrow options are since she's got a uterus.

 

[AllieBaba]

It's not like you can pretend you don't, once you get pregnant.

 

[Paulie]

I happen to think Paul's stance on this issue is the best. He doesn't agree with abortion, but doesn't agree with the federal government having any say in it. Overturn Roe v. Wade, and leave it to the states to decide, as the constitution intended.

No more federal funding, either way.

 

[Shogun]

indeed.. clearly having a uterus makes a gal responsible for getting raped. She should ahve known to leave that damn thing at home before mixing with boys.

 

[AllieBaba]

Once again, you're making assumptions based upon nothing but your own convictions.

I never said she was responsible for getting raped. I said she was responsible for her pregnancy.

Big difference.

 

[Shogun]

So, how is a woman who has just been GANG RAPED responsible for her pregnancy?

Why don't you clear this up by telling me what advice youd give your daughter after she recieved a rape kit at the hospital.

 

[watermark]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1957697/posts

http://people.ronpaul2008.com/campaign-updates/2008/01/22/jane-roe-endorses-ron-paul-on-roe-v-wade-anniversary/

Wow. That ought to be a boost from the pro-life community.

I bet if she endorsed Huckabee, it'd be all over the MSM.

Wonder WHY she didn't endorse Huckabee...hmmm...

She should notice that she didn't legalize abortion in anything but the ignorant states that didn't already recongnize the right to it.

 

[watermark]

Once again, you're making assumptions based upon nothing but your own convictions.

I never said she was responsible for getting raped. I said she was responsible for her pregnancy.

Big difference.

She's also responsible for her rightful abortion.

 

[AllieBaba]

She's responsible for making a choice about what to do with the fruit of that rape.

Do you not understand English? Is that where this is coming from? Because she is responsible for her body, unless somebody forcibly takes that from her. Are you saying we should deny raped women power over their own bodies? Or are you just confused about what the word responsible means?\

And if my daughter was raped, I'd tell her I'd support her no matter what she chooses, as long as she makes a legal choice. I'd be supportive of her if she chose to keep the baby, if she chooses to put the baby up for adoption, or, sadly, if she chose to abort.

I would take into account her age, however.

 

[bennylava]

Yes, let's punish women who live in the red states. That's fair. Make them drive to another state, makes sense, right?

 

[mattskramer]

So, how is a woman who has just been GANG RAPED responsible for her pregnancy?

Why don't you clear this up by telling me what advice youd give your daughter after she recieved a rape kit at the hospital.

Where do you draw the line when it comes to allowing or outlawing abortion? I’m just curious. I would support outlawing abortion except to save the life and health of the mother – and perhaps in cases of rape and incest – but that would be about it.

 

[bennylava]

So a fetus is only an equal human being if the mom didn't choose to have sex?

 

[mattskramer]

So a fetus is only an equal human being if the mom didn't choose to have sex?

I have not firmly made up my mind on special rape cases. Given a rape in addition to other circumstances concerning the victim, I think that abortion should be a legal option. Hey, at least I’m not in support of arbitrary abortion under any and all circumstances or for no reason at all.

 

[AllieBaba]

I think abortion as birth control should be illegal. I don't believe that every woman who gets herself into a little trouble should have the right to kill her baby, at any point in development. At the same time, I think a woman's primary care physician should be able to trump the illegality of it, if a woman is raped or has a medical reason to terminate the pregnancy. (And a medical reason should not be classified as a child with a cleft palette).

Having said that, I'd like to point out that for all that it is the primary call of pro-abortionists, a miniscule number of women actually get pregnant via rape; and even fewer choose abortion. I have not heard of a single woman who has stepped forward in the last 40 years to say, "I was raped and forced to deliver and keep my baby." It didn't happen much even in the past, when abortion was illegal. Doctors still performed "procedures" in their offices for women who requested them. Not all illegal abortions were performed in dark alleyways by filthy hacks.

Nor do I believe the hysterical rhetoric that if we make abortions illegal and shut down the clinics that women will start dying by the thousands as a result of botched abortions. Women will be able to obtain relatively safe abortions regardless of what happens with the law, because there will always be a clause that allows certain circumstances to trump the law.And people being what they are, they will find ways to exploit that to suit themselves. Which is fine.

The idea that abortion is terribly safe even now is in itself a wive's tale. Women still die on the abortion table, and horrible abuses still take place around abortion. Just because it's legal doesn't make it any prettier than it was when it wasn't. The pro-abortion crowd just wants us to think that.

 

[bennylava]

I like "no reason at all". In fact last week I had an abortion and I'm not even pregnant.

 

[AllieBaba]

Funny joke. Let me tell you, though, that I've escorted a woman to the abortion clinic on more than one occasion.

On one occasion, the ultrasound showed...no embryo. No fetus. Nothing.

Think they called off the abortion? HELL NO! Things went ahead as planned, so they still earned their $600 from the state.

 

[Shogun]

She's responsible for making a choice about what to do with the fruit of that rape.
Do you not understand English? Is that where this is coming from? Because she is responsible for her body, unless somebody forcibly takes that from her. Are you saying we should deny raped women power over their own bodies? Or are you just confused about what the word responsible means?\
And if my daughter was raped, I'd tell her I'd support her no matter what she chooses, as long as she makes a legal choice. I'd be supportive of her if she chose to keep the baby, if she chooses to put the baby up for adoption, or, sadly, if she chose to abort.
I would take into account her age, however.

So, then, are you FINALLY admitting that there ARE circumstances where an ABORTION should be allowed as a choice then? Or, did you just try to pull a fast one and drop the word "LEGAL" in there since you, ultimately, want to criminalize abortion?


Let me frame that question better: If your daughter were recently pregnant from being gang raped and abortion were criminalized are you telling me that she should be FORCED to have a reminder growing in her of such a violation for 9 months?

 

[Shogun]

Where do you draw the line when it comes to allowing or outlawing abortion? I’m just curious. I would support outlawing abortion except to save the life and health of the mother – and perhaps in cases of rape and incest – but that would be about it.

I've been clear about this in every other abortion thread. I'd criminalize abortions on feti in which there is a heartbeat. In cases of rape and incest there is still a cellular window in which to act. I don't consider a zygote the same thing as a fetus. The difference that I see in such a distinction is the presence of a functioning nervous system and brain activity. Cells no more have brain activity than do.. ok, nevermind.. i wont ake that joke.. hehehe..