Francis Keys bridge hit by ship. Bridge collapses, mass casualty event.

Reporting Dali had the same trouble while docked.


The Dali cargo ship which smashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge suffered a 'severe electrical problem' while docked in Baltimore days before, according to a port worker.

Julie Mitchell, co-administrator of Container Royalty, a company which tracks cargo, told CNN the ship was anchored at the port for at least 48 hours prior to the deadly crash.

'And those two days, they were having serious power outages… they had a severe electrical problem,' Mitchell told the broadcaster. 'It was total power failure, loss of engine power, everything.'


 
I don't think the engines ever stopped. Diesels are compression ignition; they don't need electricity to function. A power failure wouldn't affect the engines, I've run small marine diesels, as long as they have compression, fuel and air, they run.
The fuel pumps are electric though. If you lose power it doesn't take long to starve the engine of fuel. There are backup steering systems, and a bow thruster, but they rely on the generators to power the hydraulics.

They needed a few minutes to get the backup generators on line and restore steerage and get the engine re-fired, and they just didn't have that time. Plus it was an ebb tide, so they had the momentum plus the current carrying them into the bridge.
 
Live from Baltimore at Ravens Stadium
Lots of trucks parked along 95 but normal traffic flow north until hit 695 intersection and then normal 3-5 minute trip to Russel St took 15. Firt McHenery exit backed up almost to 95 . Signs say takes half hour to get to both tunnels from 95 exits
 
Live from Baltimore at Ravens Stadium
Lots of trucks parked along 95 but normal traffic flow north until hit 695 intersection and then normal 3-5 minute trip to Russel St took 15. Firt McHenery exit backed up almost to 95 . Signs say takes half hour to get to both tunnels from 95 exits
I was thinking about earlier. Truck traffic on the highways is going to get a lot worse with the port shut down.

That's what happened in Portland. The port shut down due to a prolonged strike, and the shippers moved to other ports. I-5 filled up with trucks moving north/south from the other ports- goods that would have previously been loaded on rail at the Port of Portland.
 
Bad ?
It will be devastating . Possibly unparalleled .
Just watch

Not really. There are many Ports on the East Coast and all can pick up some of the additional cargo. The hardest part would be the RO-RO ships. But Georgia has a large facility for that, as well as smaller facilities elsewhere on the coast. Temporary adjustments can be made.

We aren’t talking about Russia which has few port facilities to absorb the impact. As an example. If St Petersburg was blocked the cargo would have to travel a long distance to get into the city. In America, we have more than a dozen ports available close to Baltimore.

Norfolk of course, Delaware, Philadelphia, New Jersey, Charleston, Savannah, Brunswick, New York, and the list goes on and on.

Putin’s ill conceived and executed attack on our infrastructure won’t have a big impact on our economy. At this point Putin should go down in history as Vlad the Incompetent.
 
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audio of one of the first responders at the scene
 
I don't think the engines ever stopped. Diesels are compression ignition; they don't need electricity to function. A power failure wouldn't affect the engines, I've run small marine diesels, as long as they have compression, fuel and air, they run.
Honestly though we have at least one person here who says He Knows-from ship sources that the engines stopped and Never restarted.
 
The bridge didn't collapse because of a design flaw. No truss bridge in the world could have survived that collision.
Today's standards require much better pier protection.
The morons have "Infrastructure" money, so why not protect critical infrastructure?
The new bridge may have similar superstructure, or it may be more like the Tappan-Zee Bridge in NY.
You can see the old bridge next to it.
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Francis Scott Key had no protection. The Island Barrier is best. The "Fender" would have been crushed.
You can bet that the new bridge will have modern Pier Protection.
 
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Today's standards require much better pier protection.
The morons have "Infrastructure" money, so why not protect critical infrastructure?
The new bridge may have similar superstructure, or it may be more like the Tappan-Zee Bridge in NY.
You can see the old bridge next to it.
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Very good thing that President Biden actually passed an infrastructure law instead of just boosting about doing one.
 
Today's standards require much better pier protection.
The morons have "Infrastructure" money, so why not protect critical infrastructure?
The new bridge may have similar superstructure, or it may be more like the Tappan-Zee Bridge in NY.
You can see the old bridge next to it.
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Francis Scott Key had no protection. The Island Barrier is best. The "Fender" would have been crushed.
You can bet that the new bridge will have modern Pier Protection.
The center span piers on the FSK bridge did have wooden piling wingwalls. All of the piers have concrete bases just below the waterline.

The bridge in your pic would not have survived the collision either. The ship has a 150-foot beam and a lot of flare in the bow. 150,000 long tons at 7 kts doesn't just stop. It would probably ride up even that island barrier, and shear the support piers just like it did to the FSK.

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The new SF Bay Bridge took thirteen years and six and a half billion dollars to build, but it's a much more complicated design because there is no room to anchor the suspension cables at one end on Treasure Island. My guess is four to five years of construction time and if it's that fast the insurance company will still be surveying and arguing about the cause of the collision.
Yea, based on the length of the bridge, based on planning that has not even begun yet on a new design, it more than likely will be at least 5 years. Considering the new bridge will be "impact resistant" it will be more of a complicated design. I can't even see construction beginning for 6 months or more. 5 years might be a little too optimistic, probably more like 6-7 years, but this one will be ramped up. I've watched how painstaking it is to build one of these .
 
Today's standards require much better pier protection.
The morons have "Infrastructure" money, so why not protect critical infrastructure?
The new bridge may have similar superstructure, or it may be more like the Tappan-Zee Bridge in NY.
You can see the old bridge next to it.
View attachment 923338


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Francis Scott Key had no protection. The Island Barrier is best. The "Fender" would have been crushed.
You can bet that the new bridge will have modern Pier Protection.

Ok. Those things can stop small and maybe medium sized boats. Say a hundred foot yacht. A thousand foot ship weighing a hundred thousand tons? No chance.
 

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