Fracking Babies (To Death)

Unfounded science warrants a hysterical response. Congrats

Hysterical kneejerk reaction to actual evidence that fossil fuels are bad for your health.


Fossil fuels are bad for your health? What poppycock.

Efficient and available ENERGY increases health and lifespans. Energy enables almost everything we use to to improve our lives.

It's really quite pathetic to see addle-brained morons such a DDT disdain the resources and innovations which make his plump little life quite comfortable.

But he may yet run into some BAD LUCK if the his political overlords do get rid of fossil fuels.

"Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as “bad luck.” - Heinlein

How many pints of gasoline have you had today?

None? :eek:

Why is that if it "increases your health and lifespan"?

Oh wait, you are just being your usual disingenuous hypocritical self.

Nevermind, back to the OP and what needs to be done about this disturbing trend that fracking in having on babies.


Your ignorance of the role energy plays in the economy and in all the goods and services you consume is hardly surprising.
 
Not sure about this baby study, but fracking operations can leak toxic substances into the groundwater, and chemical byproducts into the air. It is for that reason that water trucks are brought in.

If fracking is proposed for your area, then I would advise to sell up and leave, if you can, as the risk is there. Though, if you want to be a Dodo, then by all means test your theory and live next door to a fracking well.

omg, so lets give up our lives because of some study. why don't we just all kill ourselves so we will NEVER have another fear in our lives
for crying out the SKY IS always falling with you people
Move and live next door to a fracking well, if you think there is no health risk whatesover.

You don't need a study to realize that whether you live next to a factory or an industrial operation, there are health risks.

But as I said, test your theory, and live your life like the folks in gasland. However, it is probably safer to live in the red zone of Chernobyl.
Live near wells know many that do also,not one problem, other than new roads and some prosperity. Nothing from local hospitals about a jump in mortality none of what is claimed has happen
L
Still don't get it do you. Not every well bursts, but when they do you are in for it. Have fun with that.
 
Unfounded science warrants a hysterical response. Congrats

Hysterical kneejerk reaction to actual evidence that fossil fuels are bad for your health.
What model Flintstone Mobile do you drive?


I drive a Toyota Prius. It's my second hybrid car.

We decided in 2001 to never buy another regular gas car again. And we haven't.

During the summer I get anywhere from 53 to 55 miles per gallon on that car. In the winter it decreases because of the different gas, I get around 48 to 51 miles to the gallon in the winter.

I've never had to get that car smog checked either which saves time, hassle and money. Many places I go have special parking in the front of the building just for hybrid and what we call E friendly vehicles.

There is no fracking in my state. Thank goodness. It will be interesting too see how infant mortality rates compare from states with frack and states that don't have it. I'm sure that infants and babies are a lot safer in states without tracking.


It's a pretty safe bet that far fewer infants will die from Fracking than at then hands of Taxpyer Funded Planned Parenthood Abortionists.
 
Fracking occurs at least 5000 feet below the surface of the earth. 5000 feet, thats about a mile for you libtardians.

It does not affect the aquafer, the water table, or unborn babies.

the ignorance of the left continues to amaze.
 
Premature births and dead infants but all the extremist rightwing can do is fling vitriol.

Not one of them has even bothered to ask if there isn't another reason perhaps.

Nope, just the usual kneejerk vulgarities.

50 million plus aborted and counting and you're gonna preach to us about magical fairies causing death. Lol.

thank you.
Unfounded science warrants a hysterical response. Congrats

Hysterical kneejerk reaction to actual evidence that fossil fuels are bad for your health.
What model Flintstone Mobile do you drive?


I drive a Toyota Prius. It's my second hybrid car.

We decided in 2001 to never buy another regular gas car again. And we haven't.

During the summer I get anywhere from 53 to 55 miles per gallon on that car. In the winter it decreases because of the different gas, I get around 48 to 51 miles to the gallon in the winter.

I've never had to get that car smog checked either which saves time, hassle and money. Many places I go have special parking in the front of the building just for hybrid and what we call E friendly vehicles.

There is no fracking in my state. Thank goodness. It will be interesting too see how infant mortality rates compare from states with frack and states that don't have it. I'm sure that infants and babies are a lot safer in states without tracking.


It's a pretty safe bet that far fewer infants will die from Fracking than at then hands of Taxpyer Funded Planned Parenthood Abortionists.

AND do you see these people all WORRIED and bent over that?
two faced hypocrites are dangerous people: to US
look at Obama and all these liberal/progressive/democrat/commies
 
Not sure about this baby study, but fracking operations can leak toxic substances into the groundwater, and chemical byproducts into the air. It is for that reason that water trucks are brought in.

If fracking is proposed for your area, then I would advise to sell up and leave, if you can, as the risk is there. Though, if you want to be a Dodo, then by all means test your theory and live next door to a fracking well.

omg, so lets give up our lives because of some study. why don't we just all kill ourselves so we will NEVER have another fear in our lives
for crying out the SKY IS always falling with you people
Move and live next door to a fracking well, if you think there is no health risk whatesover.

You don't need a study to realize that whether you live next to a factory or an industrial operation, there are health risks.

But as I said, test your theory, and live your life like the folks in gasland. However, it is probably safer to live in the red zone of Chernobyl.
Live near wells know many that do also,not one problem, other than new roads and some prosperity. Nothing from local hospitals about a jump in mortality none of what is claimed has happen
L
Still don't get it do you. Not every well bursts, but when they do you are in for it. Have fun with that.


bullshit, if there is a leak it would be 5000 feet below the surface.
 
Fracking occurs at least 5000 feet below the surface of the earth. 5000 feet, thats about a mile for you libtardians.

It does not affect the aquafer, the water table, or unborn babies.

the ignorance of the left continues to amaze.

Double casing is run across the aquifer and you're right, fracturing occurs anywhere from 5000-15000 feet tvd(true vertical depth). Aquifers are usually 2000 feet below or higher in formation depending on where you are geologically.
 
Unfounded science warrants a hysterical response. Congrats

Hysterical kneejerk reaction to actual evidence that fossil fuels are bad for your health.


Fossil fuels are bad for your health? What poppycock.

Efficient and available ENERGY increases health and lifespans. Energy enables almost everything we use to to improve our lives.

It's really quite pathetic to see addle-brained morons such a DDT disdain the resources and innovations which make his plump little life quite comfortable.

But he may yet run into some BAD LUCK if the his political overlords do get rid of fossil fuels.

"Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as “bad luck.” - Heinlein

How many pints of gasoline have you had today?

None? :eek:

Why is that if it "increases your health and lifespan"?

Oh wait, you are just being your usual disingenuous hypocritical self.

Nevermind, back to the OP and what needs to be done about this disturbing trend that fracking in having on babies.


Your ignorance of the role energy plays in the economy and in all the goods and services you consume is hardly surprising.

Ironic coming from the person who refuses to drink 87 octane for her health.
 
Fracking occurs at least 5000 feet below the surface of the earth. 5000 feet, thats about a mile for you libtardians.

It does not affect the aquafer, the water table, or unborn babies.

the ignorance of the left continues to amaze.
Putting it in perspective, it is about risk. Ultimately fracking operations might go wrong in 1 of 100,000 wells (or be much less than that), but when they do the environment and public health is in for it, like with oil or gas leaks of a conventional kind.

Up to people if they choose to live near that, though pretty sure the insurance companies factor in that risk when determining insurance premiums.
 
Unfounded science warrants a hysterical response. Congrats

Hysterical kneejerk reaction to actual evidence that fossil fuels are bad for your health.
What model Flintstone Mobile do you drive?


I drive a Toyota Prius. It's my second hybrid car.

We decided in 2001 to never buy another regular gas car again. And we haven't.

During the summer I get anywhere from 53 to 55 miles per gallon on that car. In the winter it decreases because of the different gas, I get around 48 to 51 miles to the gallon in the winter.

I've never had to get that car smog checked either which saves time, hassle and money. Many places I go have special parking in the front of the building just for hybrid and what we call E friendly vehicles.

There is no fracking in my state. Thank goodness. It will be interesting too see how infant mortality rates compare from states with frack and states that don't have it. I'm sure that infants and babies are a lot safer in states without tracking.


It's a pretty safe bet that far fewer infants will die from Fracking than at then hands of Taxpyer Funded Planned Parenthood Abortionists.

Ironic that you don't care how many infants will die from fracking but you get your panties in a wad over abortions.

The hypocrisy of the right-to-lifers is rampant.
 
Unfounded science warrants a hysterical response. Congrats

Hysterical kneejerk reaction to actual evidence that fossil fuels are bad for your health.


Fossil fuels are bad for your health? What poppycock.

Efficient and available ENERGY increases health and lifespans. Energy enables almost everything we use to to improve our lives.

It's really quite pathetic to see addle-brained morons such a DDT disdain the resources and innovations which make his plump little life quite comfortable.

But he may yet run into some BAD LUCK if the his political overlords do get rid of fossil fuels.

"Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as “bad luck.” - Heinlein

How many pints of gasoline have you had today?

None? :eek:

Why is that if it "increases your health and lifespan"?

Oh wait, you are just being your usual disingenuous hypocritical self.

Nevermind, back to the OP and what needs to be done about this disturbing trend that fracking in having on babies.


Your ignorance of the role energy plays in the economy and in all the goods and services you consume is hardly surprising.

Ironic coming from the person who refuses to drink 87 octane for her health.


Weren't you one of the idiots who claimed that the gulf was destroyed by the spill in 2010? Got news for ya, it wasn't. Oil is a natural substance, it is always leaking from the bottom of the sea. The gulf has completely recovered, fish, shrimp, crabs, oysters, and all othe marine life is thriving, the beaches are clean and full of tourists. BP paid for the clean up. Its over, it was not the end of life in the gulf as you idiot libs predicted.

you were wrong about this, as you are about everything else.
 
Not sure about this baby study, but fracking operations can leak toxic substances into the groundwater, and chemical byproducts into the air. It is for that reason that water trucks are brought in.

If fracking is proposed for your area, then I would advise to sell up and leave, if you can, as the risk is there. Though, if you want to be a Dodo, then by all means test your theory and live next door to a fracking well.

omg, so lets give up our lives because of some study. why don't we just all kill ourselves so we will NEVER have another fear in our lives
for crying out the SKY IS always falling with you people
Move and live next door to a fracking well, if you think there is no health risk whatesover.

You don't need a study to realize that whether you live next to a factory or an industrial operation, there are health risks.

But as I said, test your theory, and live your life like the folks in gasland. However, it is probably safer to live in the red zone of Chernobyl.
Live near wells know many that do also,not one problem, other than new roads and some prosperity. Nothing from local hospitals about a jump in mortality none of what is claimed has happen
L
Still don't get it do you. Not every well bursts, but when they do you are in for it. Have fun with that.


bullshit, if there is a leak it would be 5000 feet below the surface.
Ever heard of ground water, and cracks.
 
Unfounded science warrants a hysterical response. Congrats

Hysterical kneejerk reaction to actual evidence that fossil fuels are bad for your health.
What model Flintstone Mobile do you drive?


I drive a Toyota Prius. It's my second hybrid car.

We decided in 2001 to never buy another regular gas car again. And we haven't.

During the summer I get anywhere from 53 to 55 miles per gallon on that car. In the winter it decreases because of the different gas, I get around 48 to 51 miles to the gallon in the winter.

I've never had to get that car smog checked either which saves time, hassle and money. Many places I go have special parking in the front of the building just for hybrid and what we call E friendly vehicles.

There is no fracking in my state. Thank goodness. It will be interesting too see how infant mortality rates compare from states with frack and states that don't have it. I'm sure that infants and babies are a lot safer in states without tracking.


It's a pretty safe bet that far fewer infants will die from Fracking than at then hands of Taxpyer Funded Planned Parenthood Abortionists.

Ironic that you don't care how many infants will die from fracking but you get your panties in a wad over abortions.

The hypocrisy of the right-to-lifers is rampant.


How many infants die in underdeveloped country because the water is not potable? How many die because their is insufficient transportation to deliver relief food supplies?

It's incredibly creepy to see Plump Anonymous Progressives who live comfortable modern lives advocate to destroy that opportunity for poor people around the world. Because that is EXACTLY what your STATUS QUO PC Groupthink means.
 
Fracking occurs at least 5000 feet below the surface of the earth. 5000 feet, thats about a mile for you libtardians.

It does not affect the aquafer, the water table, or unborn babies.

the ignorance of the left continues to amaze.
Putting it in perspective, it is about risk. Ultimately fracking operations might go wrong in 1 of 100,000 wells (or be much less than that), but when they do the environment and public health is in for it, like with oil or gas leaks of a conventional kind.

Up to people if they choose to live near that, though pretty sure the insurance companies factor in that risk when determining insurance premiums.


being alive causes you to die. fracking won't change your odds. 100% that you will die.
 
omg, so lets give up our lives because of some study. why don't we just all kill ourselves so we will NEVER have another fear in our lives
for crying out the SKY IS always falling with you people
Move and live next door to a fracking well, if you think there is no health risk whatesover.

You don't need a study to realize that whether you live next to a factory or an industrial operation, there are health risks.

But as I said, test your theory, and live your life like the folks in gasland. However, it is probably safer to live in the red zone of Chernobyl.
Live near wells know many that do also,not one problem, other than new roads and some prosperity. Nothing from local hospitals about a jump in mortality none of what is claimed has happen
L
Still don't get it do you. Not every well bursts, but when they do you are in for it. Have fun with that.


bullshit, if there is a leak it would be 5000 feet below the surface.
Ever heard of ground water, and cracks.


sure, ground water occurs 100-1000 feet beneath the surface. Fracking occurs 5000-15000 feet below the surface and the pipes are double lined with steel and concrete. you are more at risk at a filling station than from fracking.
 
Hysterical kneejerk reaction to actual evidence that fossil fuels are bad for your health.


Fossil fuels are bad for your health? What poppycock.

Efficient and available ENERGY increases health and lifespans. Energy enables almost everything we use to to improve our lives.

It's really quite pathetic to see addle-brained morons such a DDT disdain the resources and innovations which make his plump little life quite comfortable.

But he may yet run into some BAD LUCK if the his political overlords do get rid of fossil fuels.

"Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as “bad luck.” - Heinlein

How many pints of gasoline have you had today?

None? :eek:

Why is that if it "increases your health and lifespan"?

Oh wait, you are just being your usual disingenuous hypocritical self.

Nevermind, back to the OP and what needs to be done about this disturbing trend that fracking in having on babies.


Your ignorance of the role energy plays in the economy and in all the goods and services you consume is hardly surprising.

Ironic coming from the person who refuses to drink 87 octane for her health.


Weren't you one of the idiots who claimed that the gulf was destroyed by the spill in 2010? Got news for ya, it wasn't. Oil is a natural substance, it is always leaking from the bottom of the sea. The gulf has completely recovered, fish, shrimp, crabs, oysters, and all othe marine life is thriving, the beaches are clean and full of tourists. BP paid for the clean up. Its over, it was not the end of life in the gulf as you idiot libs predicted.

you were wrong about this, as you are about everything else.

Only a fool believes that there are no long term toxic after effects from dumping 4 millions barrels of crude oil over the reefs of the Gulf.

Toxic Chemical Plagues Cleanup Crews Five Years after BP Oil Spill Disaster Center for Effective Government

Once a spill happens the consequences linger.

Personally I won't eat any shrimp or seafood from that region for at least another decade, probably more.
 
Unfounded science warrants a hysterical response. Congrats


And yet-----and yet, for all the Republicans that are whining, pissing and moaning on this thread, y'all have yet to produce a shred of evidence to refute the data in the OP article that Fracking... "Analyzing publicly available data from the Pennsylvania Department of Health and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Mangano found that, since the early 2000s and compared to the rest of the state, the heavily-fracked counties have seen a rise in infant mortality (13.9 percent), perinatal mortality (23.6 percent), low-weight births (3.4 percent), premature births/gestation less than 32 weeks (12.4 percent) and cancer incidence in age 0-4 (35.1 percent).
And, similar statistics that are occurring in the fracked up areas of Pennsylvania are also happening in the fracked up areas of Utah - coincidence?


Fracking Babies (To Death)
by Richard Averett on June 23, 2015

What’s Killing the Babies of Vernal, Utah?
A fracking boomtown, a spike in stillborn deaths and a gusher of unanswered questions…A midwife comes under attack after she starts asking questions about dead babies in a Utah fracking town.
<snip>

[Donna] Young, a fiftysomething, heart-faced woman with a story-time lilt of a voice, cuts a curious figure for a pariah. She’s the mother of six, a grandmother of 14 and an object of reverence among the women she’s helped, many of whom she’s guided through three and four home births with blissfully short labors and zero pain meds. And the sin for which she’s been punished with death threats and attacks on her reputation? Two years ago, she stumbled onto the truth that an alarming number of babies were dying in Vernal — at least 10 in 2013 alone, what seemed to her a shockingly high infant mortality rate for such a small town. That summer, she raised her hand and put the obvious question to Joe Shaffer, director of the TriCounty Health Department: Why are so many of our babies dying?

In most places, detecting a grave risk to children would inspire people to name a street for you. But in Vernal, a town literally built by oil, raising questions about the safety of fracking will brand you a traitor and a target. “Me and my kids are still cautious: If someone kicked in my front door tonight, it’d take an hour for the sheriff to get here,” says Young, whose house on 60 acres is well out of town and a quarter-mile clear of her closest neighbor. “The first person they’d meet is me on the staircase, pointing that .45 dead at ’em. And I know how to use these things — I can nail a coyote in the pasture from 100 yards.”

<snip>

Which raises a question you might ask in a state whose legislature is so rabid for oil and gas money that it set aside millions to sue the federal government for the right to drill near Moab and Desolation Canyon, some of the state’s most sacrosanct places: How many dead infants does it take before you’ll accept that there’s a problem?

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Like the post above stated. Until fracking can be SHOWN to be the cause of 2 million infant deaths a year you merely demonstrate your hypocrisy.
 
What model Flintstone Mobile do you drive?


I drive a Toyota Prius. It's my second hybrid car.

We decided in 2001 to never buy another regular gas car again. And we haven't.

During the summer I get anywhere from 53 to 55 miles per gallon on that car. In the winter it decreases because of the different gas, I get around 48 to 51 miles to the gallon in the winter.

I've never had to get that car smog checked either which saves time, hassle and money. Many places I go have special parking in the front of the building just for hybrid and what we call E friendly vehicles.

There is no fracking in my state. Thank goodness. It will be interesting too see how infant mortality rates compare from states with frack and states that don't have it. I'm sure that infants and babies are a lot safer in states without tracking.


It's a pretty safe bet that far fewer infants will die from Fracking than at then hands of Taxpyer Funded Planned Parenthood Abortionists.

Ironic that you don't care how many infants will die from fracking but you get your panties in a wad over abortions.

The hypocrisy of the right-to-lifers is rampant.


How many infants die in underdeveloped country because the water is not potable? How many die because their is insufficient transportation to deliver relief food supplies?

It's incredibly creepy to see Plump Anonymous Progressives who live comfortable modern lives advocate to destroy that opportunity for poor people around the world. Because that is EXACTLY what your STATUS QUO PC Groupthink means.

:lmao: at your flailing!

You are defending the death of innocent American infants by fracking.

In the process you have completely destroyed all of your credibility when it comes to whining about abortions.

But that is your problem. Have a nice day.


There is no proof in that article yet you're taking it as scientific fact. Unbelievable yet believable coming from the do good crowd.
 

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