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You asked for it:Nothing is a lie using your logic...Anyone can say anything. Like Rummy saying he knows where the WMD's are, then in his book admitting he didnt. That's not a lie, it's a slight embellishment, or exaggeation, or he believes it in his mind so it's not a lie, or speculation...Hell, someone give me a thesaurus
Again, what did Sammon say that was a lie? Quote him verbatim.
And while you're at it, quote Rumsfeld verbatim on your claim that he made a statement that "he knows where the WMD's are".
Oh BTW, I can recognize a lie when I see or hear one.
Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
You asked for it:Nothing is a lie using your logic...Anyone can say anything. Like Rummy saying he knows where the WMD's are, then in his book admitting he didnt. That's not a lie, it's a slight embellishment, or exaggeation, or he believes it in his mind so it's not a lie, or speculation...Hell, someone give me a thesaurus
Again, what did Sammon say that was a lie? Quote him verbatim.
And while you're at it, quote Rumsfeld verbatim on your claim that he made a statement that "he knows where the WMD's are".
Oh BTW, I can recognize a lie when I see or hear one.
Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
You asked for it:Again, what did Sammon say that was a lie? Quote him verbatim.
And while you're at it, quote Rumsfeld verbatim on your claim that he made a statement that "he knows where the WMD's are".
Oh BTW, I can recognize a lie when I see or hear one.
Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."
Thats what you said, not me. I posted what you bolded, fool.Thanks RD I forgot the other republican rule: if it happened a long time ago it doesnt count I'll remember that next time some con yells "Jimmy Carter / Bill Clinton"
"We do not torture" completly true because Bush doesnt believe waterboarding IS torture even tho it is.
what is a lie anyway? Cons sure are nuanced when they want to be
No dummy, that you tried to divert the issue with something that happened 8 years ago when you could have and should have used the one you'all used in 2008 was the point.
Now you use torture to try to get off topic....priceless liberal bs that passes for thought in liberalland
8 years ago doesnt count anymore? how about anytime during the Bush presidency? Is that all off the table now?
You asked for it:
Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."
Wait. You believe that there really were WMDs in Iraq?
What does that make Bob Beckle, Alan Colmes, Chris Matthews, and the rest.He's not an editor. He is not a journalist. He is simply a republican Hack.
I didn't overlook that, I merely realized that if they can see the trucks go in then they can see them go out as well as where they went to after they went out, therefore the "they took them away" argument does not hold water. But you overlooked that, didn't you.You asked for it:Again, what did Sammon say that was a lie? Quote him verbatim.
And while you're at it, quote Rumsfeld verbatim on your claim that he made a statement that "he knows where the WMD's are".
Oh BTW, I can recognize a lie when I see or hear one.
Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."
LOL, the left really is grasping at straws when they have to shun the truth, and strawman people with DIFFERENT OPINIONS. It truly is sad, but amusing. Carry on, PJ, carry on.
We get it. Lying is totally acceptable to the Right if you can use lies to get at Democrats.
You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."
Wait. You believe that there really were WMDs in Iraq?
Wait. You believe that MM is a truth based outlet?
Wait. You believe that there really were WMDs in Iraq?
Wait. You believe that MM is a truth based outlet?
Are you Lonestar_Logic now?
What exactly did he lie about?
You do know that speculation isn't lying.
Or perhaps you, like most liberals, are too stupid to know the difference.
Here we go again folks, from the people who brought you "Mission Accomplished" then blamed it on the Military comes the popular Right wing show
"What is a lie?"
He said Obama was a socialist and I say that guy takes it up the ass and that is TOTALLY OK to say ON THE NEWS shit you dont believe because nothing is a lie.
I can fly! I'm not lying!
What does that make Bob Beckle, Alan Colmes, Chris Matthews, and the rest.He's not an editor. He is not a journalist. He is simply a republican Hack.
This guy has no talkshow and no regular contribution to Fox. He is simply a commentator who reports the news yet retains his own opinions.
I didn't overlook that, I merely realized that if they can see the trucks go in then they can see them go out as well as where they went to after they went out, therefore the "they took them away" argument does not hold water. But you overlooked that, didn't you.You asked for it:
Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."
LOL, the left really is grasping at straws when they have to shun the truth, and strawman people with DIFFERENT OPINIONS. It truly is sad, but amusing. Carry on, PJ, carry on.
We get it. Lying is totally acceptable to the Right if you can use lies to get at Democrats.
YOU have absolutey no ground to stand on in regards to lying. You spent over 20 years as a US Naval OFFICER, and you are a dyke, you admitted to that, so you spent your entire career lying to the US Navy.
I never attended, buy I'm fairly sure the Navy's OCS school probably teaches HONESTY as a core value, right?
I didn't overlook that, I merely realized that if they can see the trucks go in then they can see them go out as well as where they went to after they went out, therefore the "they took them away" argument does not hold water. But you overlooked that, didn't you.You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."
They could see the trucks but not what was put in them. This is not James Bond. There are limits to the technology.
You asked for it:
Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."
Wait. You believe that there really were WMDs in Iraq?
We get it. Lying is totally acceptable to the Right if you can use lies to get at Democrats.
YOU have absolutey no ground to stand on in regards to lying. You spent over 20 years as a US Naval OFFICER, and you are a dyke, you admitted to that, so you spent your entire career lying to the US Navy.
I never attended, buy I'm fairly sure the Navy's OCS school probably teaches HONESTY as a core value, right?
Oh dear...time to pull out the "You're gay" card.
I was asked ONCE if I had ever had homosexual sex...when I was going thru the acceptance process. At that time, I had not. I answered truthfully the only time I was ever asked. But of course, I've told this before and you know that.
However, I've not admitted that I am willing to lie willingly and unremorsefully over political issues. I would not do that. THAT WOULD BE WRONG. You brag about being willing to do it. I can just imagine what you would be willing to lie about that means even MORE to you.
Now, if what I say bothers you...let me remind you, it is YOU who bragged about being willing to LIE. No one forced that out of you. Are you willing to stand by what you yourself said? Or are you going to try to weasel out?