Fox News Washington editor caught on tape gloating about lying on air

[bodecea]

Pretty funny how a certain other place won't even allow this to be discussed at all.


Must be awkward.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Nothing is a lie using your logic...Anyone can say anything. Like Rummy saying he knows where the WMD's are, then in his book admitting he didnt. That's not a lie, it's a slight embellishment, or exaggeation, or he believes it in his mind so it's not a lie, or speculation...Hell, someone give me a thesaurus

Again, what did Sammon say that was a lie? Quote him verbatim.

And while you're at it, quote Rumsfeld verbatim on your claim that he made a statement that "he knows where the WMD's are".

Oh BTW, I can recognize a lie when I see or hear one.

You asked for it:

Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?



SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."

 

[ClosedCaption]

Nothing is a lie using your logic...Anyone can say anything. Like Rummy saying he knows where the WMD's are, then in his book admitting he didnt. That's not a lie, it's a slight embellishment, or exaggeation, or he believes it in his mind so it's not a lie, or speculation...Hell, someone give me a thesaurus

Again, what did Sammon say that was a lie? Quote him verbatim.

And while you're at it, quote Rumsfeld verbatim on your claim that he made a statement that "he knows where the WMD's are".

Oh BTW, I can recognize a lie when I see or hear one.

You asked for it:

Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?



SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

That's not fair, he said he knew where the weapons were and didnt....that's not a lie. For example, I slept with Sarah Pailin....totally not a lie because I believe it even if I didnt believe it (like Sammon) it's still totally true.

 

[bodecea]

Again, what did Sammon say that was a lie? Quote him verbatim.

And while you're at it, quote Rumsfeld verbatim on your claim that he made a statement that "he knows where the WMD's are".

Oh BTW, I can recognize a lie when I see or hear one.

You asked for it:

Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?



SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."

Wait. You believe that there really were WMDs in Iraq?

 

[R.D.]

Thanks RD I forgot the other republican rule: if it happened a long time ago it doesnt count I'll remember that next time some con yells "Jimmy Carter / Bill Clinton"

"We do not torture" completly true because Bush doesnt believe waterboarding IS torture even tho it is.

what is a lie anyway? Cons sure are nuanced when they want to be

No dummy, that you tried to divert the issue with something that happened 8 years ago when you could have and should have used the one you'all used in 2008 was the point.

Now you use torture to try to get off topic....priceless liberal bs that passes for thought in liberalland

8 years ago doesnt count anymore? how about anytime during the Bush presidency? Is that all off the table now?

Thats what you said, not me. I posted what you bolded, fool.

If you have trouble keeping up thats understandable. Just try to stop posting things that make it clear you don't understand. It makes you look dumb.

 

[Liberty]

You asked for it:

Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?



SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."

Wait. You believe that there really were WMDs in Iraq?

Wait. You believe that MM is a truth based outlet?

 

[mudwhistle]

He's not an editor. He is not a journalist. He is simply a republican Hack.

What does that make Bob Beckle, Alan Colmes, Chris Matthews, and the rest.

This guy has no talkshow and no regular contribution to Fox. He is simply a commentator who reports the news yet retains his own opinions.

 

[edthecynic]

Again, what did Sammon say that was a lie? Quote him verbatim.

And while you're at it, quote Rumsfeld verbatim on your claim that he made a statement that "he knows where the WMD's are".

Oh BTW, I can recognize a lie when I see or hear one.

You asked for it:

Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?



SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."

I didn't overlook that, I merely realized that if they can see the trucks go in then they can see them go out as well as where they went to after they went out, therefore the "they took them away" argument does not hold water. But you overlooked that, didn't you.

 

[bucs90]

LOL, the left really is grasping at straws when they have to shun the truth, and strawman people with DIFFERENT OPINIONS. It truly is sad, but amusing. Carry on, PJ, carry on.

We get it. Lying is totally acceptable to the Right if you can use lies to get at Democrats.

YOU have absolutey no ground to stand on in regards to lying. You spent over 20 years as a US Naval OFFICER, and you are a dyke, you admitted to that, so you spent your entire career lying to the US Navy.

I never attended, but I'm fairly sure the Navy's OCS school probably teaches HONESTY as a core value, right?

 

[bodecea]

You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."

Wait. You believe that there really were WMDs in Iraq?

Wait. You believe that MM is a truth based outlet?

Are you Lonestar_Logic now?

 

[Liberty]

Wait. You believe that there really were WMDs in Iraq?

Wait. You believe that MM is a truth based outlet?

Are you Lonestar_Logic now?

Are you Hypocritical_Dumbass now?

 

[gautama]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg4qWPkOpfY

What exactly did he lie about?


You do know that speculation isn't lying.


Or perhaps you, like most liberals, are too stupid to know the difference.

Here we go again folks, from the people who brought you "Mission Accomplished" then blamed it on the Military comes the popular Right wing show

"What is a lie?"

He said Obama was a socialist and I say that guy takes it up the ass and that is TOTALLY OK to say ON THE NEWS shit you dont believe because nothing is a lie.

I can fly! I'm not lying!

ClosedMind&FullOfCRAP,

Dubya, using his own judgment acquiesced to Clinton Adm's and the Congressional Dem Leadership's CORRECT howling and yowling to eliminate the Baghdad Psycho .....using the DEMS' OWN VERBIAGE including statements regarding WMDs which coincided with the opinion of ALL the Major Intelligence Agencies of the World, except China.

Except, Dubya, walked the walk (instead of blathering around....a characteristic of the DEMS including the Charlatan Obami Salaami) and defeated IRAQ's FOURTH LARGEST ARMY in the World in TWENTY TWO DAYS !!!

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED !!!

However, the HYPOCRITICAL & TREACHEROUS Dems, realizing that their chances in the upcoming elections was ZERO, NADA, ZIPPO......made a 180 degree about face and using the Lib Controlled Main Stream Media 24/7 deluged the Nation with the criticism of Dubya....and STABBED HIM IN THE BACK, magnifying Dubya's difficult cleanup operations in dealing with the Shiites, Sunnis & Kurds a THOUSAND-FOLD thus giving the IslamoFascist Swine the GREEN LIGHT to initiate the IRAQI QUAGMIRE !!!!

Every minor Dubya setback was magnified a THOUSAND FOLD. Every minor Islamofascist success was magnified a THOUSAND FOLD !!!! And the Islamofascist Swine, realizing that the HYPOCRITICAL & TREACHEROUS Dems had their backs.....because they, THE ISLAMOFASCIST SWINE WERE THE HYPOCRITICAL & TREACHEROUS DEMS' ticket to victory in the upcoming U.S. Elections.

You think that Iran and the IslamoFascist Swine woulda dared to attack America, the GREATEST POWER IN MANKIND'S HISTORY when America wiped the floor with IRAQ in TWENTY TWO DAYS when it took Iran 6 0r 7 YEARS TO FIGHT IRAQ TO A STANDSTILL, with a LOSS OF OVER A MILLION MEN ?!?!?

OBVIOUSLY, IRAN and the IslamoFascist Swine KNEW that the HYPOCRITICAL & TREACHEROUS DEMS were creating a DIVIDED AMERICA to win in the upcoming Elections !!!

And, the contemptible scum like the ClosedMind&FullOfCRAP are STILL using the LIEBERRHOID'S GREATEST POLITICAL SCAM IN MANKIND'S HISTORY.....to STILL slam George W. Bush for doing the correct thing in eliminating the Baghdad Monster.....who was the greatest threat in the Mid East for our Strategic Oil Interests and......the PSYCHO that tortured and slaughtered close to a million of his own people........A HELLUVA LOT MORE THAN OBAMI SALAAMI'S PHONEY CONCERN FOR THE FEW LIBYANS (in comparison)....and QADDAFI being a far less of a STRATEGIC THREAT TO AMERICA !!!

 

[ClosedCaption]

He's not an editor. He is not a journalist. He is simply a republican Hack.

What does that make Bob Beckle, Alan Colmes, Chris Matthews, and the rest.

This guy has no talkshow and no regular contribution to Fox. He is simply a commentator who reports the news yet retains his own opinions.

This guy is the VP of news and sent out emails to hosts telling them to say the same. Matthews and Colmes arent VP's. So why are you comparing hosts with VPs?

And that was not his opinion, an opinion is something you believe. He said he didn't believe it but said it anyway.

 

[mudwhistle]

You asked for it:

Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?



SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."

I didn't overlook that, I merely realized that if they can see the trucks go in then they can see them go out as well as where they went to after they went out, therefore the "they took them away" argument does not hold water. But you overlooked that, didn't you.

They could see the trucks but not what was put in them. This is not James Bond. There are limits to the technology.

 

[bodecea]

LOL, the left really is grasping at straws when they have to shun the truth, and strawman people with DIFFERENT OPINIONS. It truly is sad, but amusing. Carry on, PJ, carry on.

We get it. Lying is totally acceptable to the Right if you can use lies to get at Democrats.

YOU have absolutey no ground to stand on in regards to lying. You spent over 20 years as a US Naval OFFICER, and you are a dyke, you admitted to that, so you spent your entire career lying to the US Navy.

I never attended, buy I'm fairly sure the Navy's OCS school probably teaches HONESTY as a core value, right?

Oh dear...time to pull out the "You're gay" card.


I was asked ONCE if I had ever had homosexual sex...when I was going thru the acceptance process. At that time, I had not. I answered truthfully the only time I was ever asked. But of course, I've told this before and you know that.

However, I've not admitted that I am willing to lie willingly and unremorsefully over political issues. I would not do that. THAT WOULD BE WRONG. You brag about being willing to do it. I can just imagine what you would be willing to lie about that means even MORE to you.

Now, if what I say bothers you...let me remind you, it is YOU who bragged about being willing to LIE. No one forced that out of you. Are you willing to stand by what you yourself said? Or are you going to try to weasel out?

 

[ClosedCaption]

he said he knew where they were and he didnt....to the right that isnt a lie, it's something else more nuanced

 

[bodecea]

You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."

I didn't overlook that, I merely realized that if they can see the trucks go in then they can see them go out as well as where they went to after they went out, therefore the "they took them away" argument does not hold water. But you overlooked that, didn't you.

They could see the trucks but not what was put in them. This is not James Bond. There are limits to the technology.

Where are those darn WMDs now?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

You asked for it:

Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?



SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

You must have overlooked the part where he said "I would also add, we saw from the air that there were dozens of trucks that went into that facility after the existence of it became public in the press and they moved things out. They dispersed them and took them away. So there may be nothing left. I don't know that. But it's way too soon to know. The exploitation is just starting."

Wait. You believe that there really were WMDs in Iraq?

At one point there were, it would have been hard to gas the Kurds without them and hard to use in the Iran-Iraq war without them too. So yes there were WMD's in Iraq.

 

[bucs90]

We get it. Lying is totally acceptable to the Right if you can use lies to get at Democrats.

YOU have absolutey no ground to stand on in regards to lying. You spent over 20 years as a US Naval OFFICER, and you are a dyke, you admitted to that, so you spent your entire career lying to the US Navy.

I never attended, buy I'm fairly sure the Navy's OCS school probably teaches HONESTY as a core value, right?

Oh dear...time to pull out the "You're gay" card.


I was asked ONCE if I had ever had homosexual sex...when I was going thru the acceptance process. At that time, I had not. I answered truthfully the only time I was ever asked. But of course, I've told this before and you know that.

However, I've not admitted that I am willing to lie willingly and unremorsefully over political issues. I would not do that. THAT WOULD BE WRONG. You brag about being willing to do it. I can just imagine what you would be willing to lie about that means even MORE to you.

Now, if what I say bothers you...let me remind you, it is YOU who bragged about being willing to LIE. No one forced that out of you. Are you willing to stand by what you yourself said? Or are you going to try to weasel out?

You spent 20 years as a military officer, violating a core value of HONESTY. Gays and lesbians were not allowed in the military during your career, and you, an officer, LIED and witheld the truth about a major policy violation....in this case your own policy violation.

So you say it'd be wrong to lie about a politician in order to influence an election......but not to uphold your sworn oath to abide by the core values of a Naval officer, with regards to a major policy violation? What a fucking hypocrite!!!

You're right, no one forced that out, I volunteered it. Left wing progressive ideology is an ideology based on evil (If you'd research the history of that movement you'd know that) and I would be more than willing to outright LIE if it meant slowing or stopping that ideology.

In my opinion, it's sorta like an undercover cop going in deep cover to undermine a criminal enterprise. Or lying to a drug dealer or gang member while undercover in order to defeat them in the end. Lying is NOBLE in some cases (defeating evil or crime) and NOT in others (Violating your sworn oath as a military officer to uphold core values).

So yeah, if I was in a position of power, with the chance to outright lie about Obama or Pelosi or any other far left tyrant, I would do it without hesitation if it hurt their chances of being re-elected.

 

[3DG4life]

For all those who wanted the "unedited" tape:

Fox News Exec Bill Sammon Linked Obama To Socialism On Air, But Thought It Wasn't True (AUDIO)