FOX News poll overwhelmingly favors gun control legislation.

[2aguy]

We don't have enough laws, and the ones we do have are not working. Why is this so hard for gun nuts to understand?

Moron.....we have enough laws......they work. The problem is the democrat party prosecutors, judges, and politicians are releasing violent gun criminals, with felony conviction after felony conviction, over and over again.......

Why is this so hard for morons like you to understand this?

 

[odanny]

Moron.....we have enough laws......they work. The problem is the democrat party prosecutors, judges, and politicians are releasing violent gun criminals, with felony conviction after felony conviction, over and over again.......

Why is this so hard for morons like you to understand this?

 

[2aguy]

And....you have nothing...........typical of a leftist...when confronted with truth, facts and reality, you are completely stumped....

 

[odanny]

And....you have nothing...........typical of a leftist...when confronted with truth, facts and reality, you are completely stumped....

You have no facts, you have opinion and conjecture. The facts prove me right, if you look at gun deaths and gun violence in America. Then couple that with popular opinion, and you lose on both.

 

[2aguy]

You have no facts, you have opinion and conjecture. The facts prove me right, if you look at gun deaths and gun violence in America. Then couple that with popular opinion, and you lose on both.

And....you stil didn't address any of my points......showing you have nothing.

Popular opinion in democrat party controlled states once said blacks should be slaves.........Republicans changed that by defeating the democrats in the Civil War and freeing blacks from the democrats.

 

[odanny]

And....you stil didn't address any of my points......showing you have nothing.

Popular opinion in democrat party controlled states once said blacks should be slaves.........Republicans changed that by defeating the democrats in the Civil War and freeing blacks from the democrats.

And once again, you are talking out your ass, like you always do.

Popular opinion sides with me, not you. Gun violence statistics side with me, not you. Facts are on my side, not yours.

 

[2aguy]

And once again, you are talking out your ass, like you always do.

Popular opinion sides with me, not you. Gun violence statistics side with me, not you. Facts are on my side, not yours.

Popular opinion in nazi Germany was to put Jews in camps...........

Sell "popular" opinion to biden voters....

 

[odanny]

Popular opinion in nazi Germany was to put Jews in camps...........

Sell "popular" opinion to biden voters....

Thank you for proving my point. Do keep talking.

 

[2aguy]

Thank you for proving my point. Do keep talking.

Still didn't respond to my points...because you can't....you can just spew left wing b.s. and then you are stuck....

 

[Captain Caveman]

It's tragic, literally, that Republicans won't listen to their constituents.


Support for gun violence prevention policies highlighted in the poll:

• 87 percent – Background Checks for Guns
• 81 percent – Enforce Existing Gun Laws
• 81 percent – Legal Age 21 to Buy All Guns
• 80 percent – Require Mental Health Checks on all gun buyers
• 80 percent – Flag People Danger to Self
• 77 percent – Require 30-day Waiting Period
• 61 percent – Ban Assault Weapons
• 45 percent – Encouraging more citizens to carry guns to defend against attackers

Fox News Poll: Voters favor gun limits over arming citizens to reduce gun violence

A new Fox News poll found that most voters favored more limits on gun rights rather than an increase in arming Americans to combat gun violence.

www.foxnews.com

FYI: Fox News Poll Shows Overwhelming Support for Commonsense Gun Violence Prevention Measures

Today, Chairman of the House Gun Violence Prevention Task Force Rep.

mikethompson.house.gov

There's 3 prongs to guns -

1 - Gun features. What are suitable and unsuitable features for a gun in society. Society is not an army.

2 - Culture. Where it's acceptable to use a gun and where it isn't. No guns in public. How to secure a gun when not in use. Generations need to die out to instill the right gun culture. The current American gun culture is flawed, but gun nuts are too stupid to see that.

3 - The person. People are incharge of their police record, their driving record, their mental health record. So those that fail on any of those are simply not suitable to be responsible with a gun.

Other Western nations do better than America to such an extent, if you add up similar Western nation stats, America is still worse.

Finally, Hollywood and John Wayne that couldn't stop a pig in an alley did America no favours with guns. And gun nuts swallowed that crock on the screen hook line sinker.

 

[2aguy]

There's 3 prongs to guns -

1 - Gun features. What are suitable and unsuitable features for a gun in society. Society is not an army.

2 - Culture. Where it's acceptable to use a gun and where it isn't. No guns in public. How to secure a gun when not in use. Generations need to die out to instill the right gun culture. The current American gun culture is flawed, but gun nuts are too stupid to see that.

3 - The person. People are incharge of their police record, their driving record, their mental health record. So those that fail on any of those are simply not suitable to be responsible with a gun.

Other Western nations do better than America to such an extent, if you add up similar Western nation stats, America is still worse.

Finally, Hollywood and John Wayne that couldn't stop a pig in an alley did America no favours with guns. And gun nuts swallowed that crock on the screen hook line sinker.

AGain....you refuse to address this fact.....European countries murdered more innocent people in 6 years than gun murder in the entire 246 year history of the U.S.......

Guns in public are where people are attacked by rapists, robbers, killers.....and yet you want them disarmed and helpless......

We already have laws that ban criminals and the dangerously mentally ill from having guns.....our problem is that it is in the interest of the democrat party to keep releasing violent criminals...who do almost all of the criminal gun violence in our country.....

We follow the data.......you follow emotion.....you are irrational, and willing to hope that the government will never again murder people in the millions....

Europe...

In the 1920s, they began the process of registering guns....to make their people safer. That was the lie. by the mid 1930s, the socialists in Germany began the process of banning and confiscating guns, and the same for the countries they defeated......

By 1939, the German socialists began to murder 15 million people....in 6 years.....men, women and over 1 million children.

6 years, 15 million murdered citizens..not war dead, innocent people rounded up and murdered in camps and forests....

15 million in 6 years.

In the United States, gun murder for our entire 246 year history?

Around 2,460,000

Europe.... 15 million in 6 years.

U.S..... 2,460,000 in 246 years.

Now the math part...get out your pencil....

How many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up with the number of Europeans murdered by their governments.....

Show your work.

 

[2aguy]

There's 3 prongs to guns -

1 - Gun features. What are suitable and unsuitable features for a gun in society. Society is not an army.

2 - Culture. Where it's acceptable to use a gun and where it isn't. No guns in public. How to secure a gun when not in use. Generations need to die out to instill the right gun culture. The current American gun culture is flawed, but gun nuts are too stupid to see that.

3 - The person. People are incharge of their police record, their driving record, their mental health record. So those that fail on any of those are simply not suitable to be responsible with a gun.

Other Western nations do better than America to such an extent, if you add up similar Western nation stats, America is still worse.

Finally, Hollywood and John Wayne that couldn't stop a pig in an alley did America no favours with guns. And gun nuts swallowed that crock on the screen hook line sinker.

The actual data....how many times a year do Americans use their legal guns in self defense to stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings, and stabbings?

Notice......none of the research was done by Hollywood or John Wayne.....

Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?



Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct



that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—

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A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)


2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

2021 national firearms survey..

The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,
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The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.
2021 National Firearms Survey

Clinton's study by the DOJ....

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf

Applying those restrictions leaves 19 NSPOF respondents (0.8 percent of the sample), representing 1.5 million defensive users. This estimate is directly comparable to the well-known estimate of Kleck and Gertz, shown in the last column of exhibit 7. While the NSPOF estimate is smaller, it is statistically plausible that the difference is due to sampling error. Inclusion of multiple DGUs reported by half of the 19 NSPOF respondents increases the estimate to 4.7 million DGUs.



n the third column of Table 6.2, we apply the Kleck and Gertz (1995) criteria for "genuine" DGUs (type A), leaving us with just 19 respondents. They represent 1.5 million defensive users. This estimate is directly comparable to the well-known Kleck and Gertz estimate of 2.5 million, shown in the last

While ours is smaller, it is staistically plausible that the difference is due to sampling error. to the when we include the multiple DGUs victim. defensive reported by half our 19 respondents, our estimate increases to 4.7 milli

While ours is smaller, it is statistically plausible that the difference petrator; in most cases (69 percent), the is due to sampling error. Note that when we include the multiple DGUs reported by half our 19 respondents, our estimate increases to 4.7 million DGUs.
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As shown in Table 6.6, the defender fired his or her gun in 27 percent of these incidents (combined "fire warning shots" and "fire at perpetrator" percentages, though some respondents reported firing both warning shots and airning at the perpetrator). Forty percent of these were "warning shots," and about a third were aimed at the perpetrator but missed. The perpetrator was wounded by the crime victim in eight percent of all DGUs. In nine percent of DGUs the victim captured and held the perpetrator at gunpoint until the police could arrive.

Obama's study...

Defensive Use of Guns

Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010).
National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2013. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press. Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence |The National Academies Press.

Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence | Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence |The National Academies Press

 

[Abatis]

And once again, you are talking out your ass, like you always do.

Popular opinion sides with me, not you. Gun violence statistics side with me, not you. Facts are on my side, not yours.

Foundational constitutional principles and SCOTUS enforcing them with the rule of law, sides with gun rights supporters and completely reject your leftist statist stupidity.

"The very purpose of a Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections." -- West Virginia State Bd. of Ed. v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624, 638 (1943)​

 

[d0gbreath]

Fox just another propo rag for libs....

It wasn't so long ago, that that wasn't so. The Donald watched that channel during waking hours, for four years straight. Did you ever stop to think that Fox shifted to the left because they think that there is a majority over here? You know, ratings are important. When your old audience is dying out, best to move on.

 

[Manonthestreet]

It wasn't so long ago, that that wasn't so. The Donald watched that channel during waking hours, for four years straight. Did you ever stop to think that Fox shifted to the left because they think that there is a majority over here? You know, ratings are important. When your old audience is dying out, best to move on.

Thanks for confirmation

 

[2aguy]

It wasn't so long ago, that that wasn't so. The Donald watched that channel during waking hours, for four years straight. Did you ever stop to think that Fox shifted to the left because they think that there is a majority over here? You know, ratings are important. When your old audience is dying out, best to move on.

If ratings were king rhey would not have taken Tucker off the air......

...

 

[d0gbreath]

If ratings were king rhey would not have taken Tucker off the air......

...

I'm sure that they didn't like having to do that. He just became too expensive to have around.

 

[LibertyKid]

It's tragic, literally, that Republicans won't listen to their constituents.


Support for gun violence prevention policies highlighted in the poll:

• 87 percent – Background Checks for Guns
• 81 percent – Enforce Existing Gun Laws
• 81 percent – Legal Age 21 to Buy All Guns
• 80 percent – Require Mental Health Checks on all gun buyers
• 80 percent – Flag People Danger to Self
• 77 percent – Require 30-day Waiting Period
• 61 percent – Ban Assault Weapons
• 45 percent – Encouraging more citizens to carry guns to defend against attackers

Fox News Poll: Voters favor gun limits over arming citizens to reduce gun violence

A new Fox News poll found that most voters favored more limits on gun rights rather than an increase in arming Americans to combat gun violence.

www.foxnews.com

FYI: Fox News Poll Shows Overwhelming Support for Commonsense Gun Violence Prevention Measures

Today, Chairman of the House Gun Violence Prevention Task Force Rep.

mikethompson.house.gov

The results are due to the poor understanding of the 2A. I seriously believe that most people, and maybe even some gun owners, feel that the 2A is primarily the right that allows citizens to bare arms. That is not correct. Baring arms is the natural progression for the citizens to protect liberty and freedoms from a tyrannical gov't. In order to do so, we must be able to bare arms.
If you asked the citizens, should the people be allowed to overthrow a tyrannical gov't I believe most people would say "Yes". The next logical questions is "How"? If the answer to 'how' doesn't include force via the means of "Baring Arms", then they have missed the entire point of the 2A.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's tragic, literally, that Republicans won't listen to their constituents.

The constitution is not subject to polling data.
Fail.