For The NRA Freedom Means Being Heavily Armed And Scared To Death

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not like there hasn't been guns around for the last two hundred plus years. You probably need to ask yourself what has changed with people, not guns.

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

Something obviously changed.
People had legal Thompson Machineguns right after WWI, when they had a surplus and were dumping them for mail order $25 and no license required.
People did not used to do school shootings.
My father used to take his shotgun to elementary school with him, so he could try to shoot dinner on the way home.
In the 60s, 2 students were killed from knife fights, so a third of the teachers were armed.
So yes, people clearly have drastically changed in the last 200 years.
It does not take a mutation, it can be through conditioned responses.

The government banned Thompson sub machine guns because they were being used by gangs against police. Today the NRA prevents any weapon from being banned.

Really? The NRA basically said to go ahead and ban bump stocks. How does that male your statement true?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

Something obviously changed.
People had legal Thompson Machineguns right after WWI, when they had a surplus and were dumping them for mail order $25 and no license required.
People did not used to do school shootings.
My father used to take his shotgun to elementary school with him, so he could try to shoot dinner on the way home.
In the 60s, 2 students were killed from knife fights, so a third of the teachers were armed.
So yes, people clearly have drastically changed in the last 200 years.
It does not take a mutation, it can be through conditioned responses.

The government banned Thompson sub machine guns because they were being used by gangs against police. Today the NRA prevents any weapon from being banned.

Really? The NRA basically said to go ahead and ban bump stocks. How does that male your statement true?

Oh, excuse me! I didn't think a libtard would know the difference.

What weapons do you want to ban?

 

[9thIDdoc]

But what will our schools look like when we are done? What will our schools feel like? Is this where we are to train and nurture a free society, in the midst of assault rifles and bulletproof armor? Those things signify and communicate something quite other than freedom.

They impose an environment of fear, which can be debilitating to our youth, whom we should want to be confident, open, honest and happy. These are not the kinds of things you see in a free society, but a society at war. How bizarre is it that we would willfully take on the trappings of a society at war, while countless nations around the world — embroiled in real, live civil wars — envy our peace?

This is madness, of course. The NRA’s logic dictates that we should make our schools look like war zones to accommodate unfettered gun rights.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eans-being-heavily-armed-and-scared-to-death/

Your view of cause and effect is backward. Being prepared doesn't cause violence. Violence causes reasonable people to prepare.Being unable to handle it invites violence.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

If I’m heavily armed WTF do I have to be scared of?

Are you the only one you care about?

Are you somehow struggling with the definition of self defense?

There are only two words there, and one of them is self.

 

[Rigby5]

Not like there hasn't been guns around for the last two hundred plus years. You probably need to ask yourself what has changed with people, not guns.

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

Something obviously changed.
People had legal Thompson Machineguns right after WWI, when they had a surplus and were dumping them for mail order $25 and no license required.
People did not used to do school shootings.
My father used to take his shotgun to elementary school with him, so he could try to shoot dinner on the way home.
In the 60s, 2 students were killed from knife fights, so a third of the teachers were armed.
So yes, people clearly have drastically changed in the last 200 years.
It does not take a mutation, it can be through conditioned responses.

The government banned Thompson sub machine guns because they were being used by gangs against police. Today the NRA prevents any weapon from being banned.

But the point is there was no federal gun laws at all and people could easily buy machineguns until 1934, and there was no problem. In fact, the gangs that were using Thompson machine guns were actually caused by Prohibition, and the worst they did was 7 killed at the St. Valentines day massacre. That would not even warrant a news article these days. These days it is the PEOPLE who are different and more violent, not the WEAPONS. The weapons then were even more powerful because they were fully automatic and have 75 round drum magazines.

And no, the NRA does not prevent weapons from being banned. The Thompson machinegun is still banned since 1934. The only thing the NRA is trying to prevent is single shot AR type rifles from being banned, because there is nothing about them that warrants being banned. If you can ban an AR, you can and will ban everything.

 

[Rigby5]

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

Each generation is still human? Hmmm...the weapon is still a gun.

A more powerful and efficient killing weapon nowdays. I dont see that same change or even rate of change reflected in humans.

That is totally wrong.
School shootings are not only fairly new, but rising drastically, and that has nothing at all to do with weapons. It has to do entirely with heightened emotions and lack of responsibility.
Here is the graph of school shootings. Back around 1920 is when full auto weapons were the cheapest and easiest to get, without any licensing requirements at all.

Why does you chart only go to 2010 and what constitutes a school shooting for the purposes of that chart?

Here is a link to a chart that is not an image do I can't embed, but has actually body counts and go to 2013.

 A Chart of the 137 Fatal School Shootings in the U.S. Since 1980

 

[Rigby5]

But what will our schools look like when we are done? What will our schools feel like? Is this where we are to train and nurture a free society, in the midst of assault rifles and bulletproof armor? Those things signify and communicate something quite other than freedom.

They impose an environment of fear, which can be debilitating to our youth, whom we should want to be confident, open, honest and happy. These are not the kinds of things you see in a free society, but a society at war. How bizarre is it that we would willfully take on the trappings of a society at war, while countless nations around the world — embroiled in real, live civil wars — envy our peace?

This is madness, of course. The NRA’s logic dictates that we should make our schools look like war zones to accommodate unfettered gun rights.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eans-being-heavily-armed-and-scared-to-death/

Your view of cause and effect is backward. Being prepared doesn't cause violence. Violence causes reasonable people to prepare.Being unable to handle it invites violence.

The crazy part is that those who want to ban honest people from buying any particular firearm actually think that is going to prevent criminals and murderers.

 

[peach174]

If I’m heavily armed WTF do I have to be scared of?

Are you the only one you care about?

It's our duty as armed citizens to use those guns to protect all unarmed lawful citizen's,so yes we care about all .
It's actually in our AZ. State law, if you are armed with a side pistol you use it to stop a crime and protect others around you.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

If I walk down the street and am gunned downed by a guy who drops his AR-15 on the street and it discharges into my face, the gun nuts would blame me for not wearing full body armor.

crazy

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

Each generation is still human? Hmmm...the weapon is still a gun.

A more powerful and efficient killing weapon nowdays. I dont see that same change or even rate of change reflected in humans.

That is totally wrong.
School shootings are not only fairly new, but rising drastically, and that has nothing at all to do with weapons. It has to do entirely with heightened emotions and lack of responsibility.
Here is the graph of school shootings. Back around 1920 is when full auto weapons were the cheapest and easiest to get, without any licensing requirements at all.

Why does you chart only go to 2010 and what constitutes a school shooting for the purposes of that chart?

Here is a link to a chart that is not an image do I can't embed, but has actually body counts and go to 2013.

A Chart of the 137 Fatal School Shootings in the U.S. Since 1980

So, they are counting Va Tech as a school shooting?

That makes the entire premise out to be a lie.

 

[peach174]

War is porn for Zionists, and they'd love to see Americans living like a people under siege (ala Israelis).

There are all sorts of things we can do to fight these school shootings, things that don't involve taking away gun right or making America look a country under siege.

Hold parents responsible for the crimes of their kids. Move troublemakers into special schools. Etc.

Under siege?
What are you talking about?
We have security everywhere and we are not under siege. We are protected.
There is armed security at sporting events, concerts, parades, all of congress, the white house, entertainers.
Everyone but our school children.
It's about time they get armed protection too.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We had no problem with gun rights until democrat lunatics took over. There were no mass shootings and no school shootings.

 

[saveliberty]

People havent changed. Their environment has changed. The people that are doing this feel that they are exacting revenge.

You are not going to solve the real problem until you see people have changed. Identify what has changed in them and start a better change.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Not like there hasn't been guns around for the last two hundred plus years. You probably need to ask yourself what has changed with people, not guns.

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

Something obviously changed.
People had legal Thompson Machineguns right after WWI, when they had a surplus and were dumping them for mail order $25 and no license required.
People did not used to do school shootings.
My father used to take his shotgun to elementary school with him, so he could try to shoot dinner on the way home.
In the 60s, 2 students were killed from knife fights, so a third of the teachers were armed.
So yes, people clearly have drastically changed in the last 200 years.
It does not take a mutation, it can be through conditioned responses.

When people believed in God, there was always a fear of being watched. We feared judgement day and even damnation as a possible penalty for our sins. We didn't just create guns the last 20 years. They've been around since our founding. We didn't invent crazy people in the last 20 years either. Crazy people have always been around.

As we became a more secular society and allowed liberals a free hand to defend evil, things like this school shooting and other mass murders became the norm. It's to the point that it's happening every couple of months now.

There are very distinct differences in our society today that were not there 50 years ago. Guns and crazy people are not two of them. We raise children today to be eggshells. Bullying is actually a national concern as if we never had bullying before. We shield them from every possible negative emotion and situation because that's what the leftist shrinks told us to do.

So kids who are faced with negativity for the first time in their lives react harshly. They get some guns and kill people. They read something on Facebook and end up committing suicide. With no fear of God (because liberalism taught us God was a fictional character) there is nothing to fear after death. It's like having surgery. Everything just turns black and you cease to exist.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If I walk down the street and am gunned downed by a guy who drops his AR-15 on the street and it discharges into my face, the gun nuts would blame me for not wearing full body armor.

So how many times in your life have you walked past somebody carrying a AR-15 with them?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Not like there hasn't been guns around for the last two hundred plus years. You probably need to ask yourself what has changed with people, not guns.

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

Something obviously changed.
People had legal Thompson Machineguns right after WWI, when they had a surplus and were dumping them for mail order $25 and no license required.
People did not used to do school shootings.
My father used to take his shotgun to elementary school with him, so he could try to shoot dinner on the way home.
In the 60s, 2 students were killed from knife fights, so a third of the teachers were armed.
So yes, people clearly have drastically changed in the last 200 years.
It does not take a mutation, it can be through conditioned responses.

The government banned Thompson sub machine guns because they were being used by gangs against police. Today the NRA prevents any weapon from being banned.

Assault rifles are still banned.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But what will our schools look like when we are done? What will our schools feel like? Is this where we are to train and nurture a free society, in the midst of assault rifles and bulletproof armor? Those things signify and communicate something quite other than freedom.

They impose an environment of fear, which can be debilitating to our youth, whom we should want to be confident, open, honest and happy. These are not the kinds of things you see in a free society, but a society at war. How bizarre is it that we would willfully take on the trappings of a society at war, while countless nations around the world — embroiled in real, live civil wars — envy our peace?

This is madness, of course. The NRA’s logic dictates that we should make our schools look like war zones to accommodate unfettered gun rights.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eans-being-heavily-armed-and-scared-to-death/

We only have two choices in this matter: Live with mass killings or do something to try and stop them. Trying to go against our Constitution and disarm 300 million Americans will not be the solution because it can't be done.

 

[LeftofLeft]

But what will our schools look like when we are done? What will our schools feel like? Is this where we are to train and nurture a free society, in the midst of assault rifles and bulletproof armor? Those things signify and communicate something quite other than freedom.

They impose an environment of fear, which can be debilitating to our youth, whom we should want to be confident, open, honest and happy. These are not the kinds of things you see in a free society, but a society at war. How bizarre is it that we would willfully take on the trappings of a society at war, while countless nations around the world — embroiled in real, live civil wars — envy our peace?

This is madness, of course. The NRA’s logic dictates that we should make our schools look like war zones to accommodate unfettered gun rights.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eans-being-heavily-armed-and-scared-to-death/

Not a pretty site, heavy armed guards. At the same time, tell the children and their families that in an era where mass shootings of innocents largely occur where the shooter has obtained the guns illegally, you are going to enhance the law to make it more difficult to purchase guns legally. You’ve barely moved the needle and have not closed the gap.

Blaming the NRA is not going to make children safer. It’s a multi-step approach.

 

[miketx]

But what will our schools look like when we are done? What will our schools feel like? Is this where we are to train and nurture a free society, in the midst of assault rifles and bulletproof armor? Those things signify and communicate something quite other than freedom.

They impose an environment of fear, which can be debilitating to our youth, whom we should want to be confident, open, honest and happy. These are not the kinds of things you see in a free society, but a society at war. How bizarre is it that we would willfully take on the trappings of a society at war, while countless nations around the world — embroiled in real, live civil wars — envy our peace?

This is madness, of course. The NRA’s logic dictates that we should make our schools look like war zones to accommodate unfettered gun rights.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eans-being-heavily-armed-and-scared-to-death/

I'm heavily armed but I'm not scared to death. In fact I'd rather beat some criminals face in than to shoot them.

 

[LuckyDuck]

But what will our schools look like when we are done? What will our schools feel like? Is this where we are to train and nurture a free society, in the midst of assault rifles and bulletproof armor? Those things signify and communicate something quite other than freedom.

They impose an environment of fear, which can be debilitating to our youth, whom we should want to be confident, open, honest and happy. These are not the kinds of things you see in a free society, but a society at war. How bizarre is it that we would willfully take on the trappings of a society at war, while countless nations around the world — embroiled in real, live civil wars — envy our peace?

This is madness, of course. The NRA’s logic dictates that we should make our schools look like war zones to accommodate unfettered gun rights.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eans-being-heavily-armed-and-scared-to-death/

Assault rifles??? The last I recall there are only two types of individuals that are allowed actual assault rifles.
1. The military.
2. Individuals with a federal firearms license.
People like you, keep referring to the "NRA" as though it was a single individual, it's made up of 5 MILLION individual gun owners and that is five million gun owners out of a total of over 80 MILLION private, non-NRA gun owners and the more people like you bitch about "law-abiding" gun owners who, by the way, aren't committing crimes and have never been a threat to you, the more we non-NRA members begin to side with them.