For The NRA Freedom Means Being Heavily Armed And Scared To Death

[Asclepias]

Not like there hasn't been guns around for the last two hundred plus years. You probably need to ask yourself what has changed with people, not guns.

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

 

[Thinker101]

Not like there hasn't been guns around for the last two hundred plus years. You probably need to ask yourself what has changed with people, not guns.

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

 

[Asclepias]

Not like there hasn't been guns around for the last two hundred plus years. You probably need to ask yourself what has changed with people, not guns.

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

 

[Thinker101]

Not like there hasn't been guns around for the last two hundred plus years. You probably need to ask yourself what has changed with people, not guns.

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

Each generation is still human? Hmmm...the weapon is still a gun.

 

[Rigby5]

Not like there hasn't been guns around for the last two hundred plus years. You probably need to ask yourself what has changed with people, not guns.

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

Something obviously changed.
People had legal Thompson Machineguns right after WWI, when they had a surplus and were dumping them for mail order $25 and no license required.
People did not used to do school shootings.
My father used to take his shotgun to elementary school with him, so he could try to shoot dinner on the way home.
In the 60s, 2 students were killed from knife fights, so a third of the teachers were armed.
So yes, people clearly have drastically changed in the last 200 years.
It does not take a mutation, it can be through conditioned responses.

 

[Asclepias]

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

Each generation is still human? Hmmm...the weapon is still a gun.

A more powerful and efficient killing weapon nowdays. I dont see that same change or even rate of change reflected in humans.

 

[Rigby5]

Not like there hasn't been guns around for the last two hundred plus years. You probably need to ask yourself what has changed with people, not guns.

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

No, someone good with a Japanese Katana even from 500 years ago could easily kill more than 17 in that time frame.
With a blunderbuss from 1600 one could kill 17 people with a single shot.
Hand held weapons have not changed much in killing power or efficiency.
In fact, after WWI, there was a huge surplus of unused Thompson Machineguns they were selling mail order for $25.
If someone had an 1890 pump shotgun, they would easily have killed 30 or more in the same time frame.

The false notion it is the fault of the tools somehow, is just totally wrong.
The problem is the students bulling victims like Cruz and causing the violence.

 

[Rigby5]

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

Each generation is still human? Hmmm...the weapon is still a gun.

A more powerful and efficient killing weapon nowdays. I dont see that same change or even rate of change reflected in humans.

That is totally wrong.
School shootings are not only fairly new, but rising drastically, and that has nothing at all to do with weapons. It has to do entirely with heightened emotions and lack of responsibility.
Here is the graph of school shootings. Back around 1920 is when full auto weapons were the cheapest and easiest to get, without any licensing requirements at all.

 

[Asclepias]

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

No, someone good with a Japanese Katana even from 500 years ago could easily kill more than 17 in that time frame.
With a blunderbuss from 1600 one could kill 17 people with a single shot.
Hand held weapons have not changed much in killing power or efficiency.
In fact, after WWI, there was a huge surplus of unused Thompson Machineguns they were selling mail order for $25.
If someone had an 1890 pump shotgun, they would easily have killed 30 or more in the same time frame.

The false notion it is the fault of the tools somehow, is just totally wrong.
The problem is the students bulling victims like Cruz and causing the violence.

Its not the fault of the tool I just said thats the thing that changed the most.

 

[Thinker101]

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

No, someone good with a Japanese Katana even from 500 years ago could easily kill more than 17 in that time frame.
With a blunderbuss from 1600 one could kill 17 people with a single shot.
Hand held weapons have not changed much in killing power or efficiency.
In fact, after WWI, there was a huge surplus of unused Thompson Machineguns they were selling mail order for $25.
If someone had an 1890 pump shotgun, they would easily have killed 30 or more in the same time frame.

The false notion it is the fault of the tools somehow, is just totally wrong.
The problem is the students bulling victims like Cruz and causing the violence.

Its not the fault of the tool I just said thats the thing that changed the most.

Which brings us back to it's people that have changed the most.

 

[John Shaw]

A blunderbuss could kill 17 people with one shot? What????!!!

 

[Asclepias]

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

No, someone good with a Japanese Katana even from 500 years ago could easily kill more than 17 in that time frame.
With a blunderbuss from 1600 one could kill 17 people with a single shot.
Hand held weapons have not changed much in killing power or efficiency.
In fact, after WWI, there was a huge surplus of unused Thompson Machineguns they were selling mail order for $25.
If someone had an 1890 pump shotgun, they would easily have killed 30 or more in the same time frame.

The false notion it is the fault of the tools somehow, is just totally wrong.
The problem is the students bulling victims like Cruz and causing the violence.

Its not the fault of the tool I just said thats the thing that changed the most.

Which brings us back to it's people that have changed the most.

People havent changed. Their environment has changed. The people that are doing this feel that they are exacting revenge.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If I walk down the street and am gunned downed by a guy who drops his AR-15 on the street and it discharges into my face, the gun nuts would blame me for not wearing full body armor.

If he drops it and it fires, you can sue the manufacturer. Or in this case your heirs.

 

[Asclepias]

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

Each generation is still human? Hmmm...the weapon is still a gun.

A more powerful and efficient killing weapon nowdays. I dont see that same change or even rate of change reflected in humans.

That is totally wrong.
School shootings are not only fairly new, but rising drastically, and that has nothing at all to do with weapons. It has to do entirely with heightened emotions and lack of responsibility.
Here is the graph of school shootings. Back around 1920 is when full auto weapons were the cheapest and easiest to get, without any licensing requirements at all.

In the 1920's was the environment that Drumpf harkens to when he says MAGA.

 

[BulletProof]

War is porn for Zionists, and they'd love to see Americans living like a people under siege (ala Israelis).

There are all sorts of things we can do to fight these school shootings, things that don't involve taking away gun right or making America look a country under siege.

Hold parents responsible for the crimes of their kids. Move troublemakers into special schools. Etc.

 

[pismoe]

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

Each generation is still human? Hmmm...the weapon is still a gun.

A more powerful and efficient killing weapon nowdays. I dont see that same change or even rate of change reflected in humans.

That is totally wrong.
School shootings are not only fairly new, but rising drastically, and that has nothing at all to do with weapons. It has to do entirely with heightened emotions and lack of responsibility.
Here is the graph of school shootings. Back around 1920 is when full auto weapons were the cheapest and easiest to get, without any licensing requirements at all.

In the 1920's was the environment that Drumpf harkens to when he says MAGA.

----------------------------------------------------- NO , i'd say its the 50s and 60s Ace but your opinion that its the 20s is alright with me as the 20s were alright Ace .

 

[Rigby5]

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

No, someone good with a Japanese Katana even from 500 years ago could easily kill more than 17 in that time frame.
With a blunderbuss from 1600 one could kill 17 people with a single shot.
Hand held weapons have not changed much in killing power or efficiency.
In fact, after WWI, there was a huge surplus of unused Thompson Machineguns they were selling mail order for $25.
If someone had an 1890 pump shotgun, they would easily have killed 30 or more in the same time frame.

The false notion it is the fault of the tools somehow, is just totally wrong.
The problem is the students bulling victims like Cruz and causing the violence.

Its not the fault of the tool I just said thats the thing that changed the most.

Not, the tool's change is almost insignificant.
It is ONLY how people are acting that has changed.
Crime for money or power can be understood.
These school shooters usually are deliberately killing themselves and none of them gain anything.
It is totally irrational behavior, different than any previous generations.

 

[Synthaholic]

A good thread to drop this into:

 

[Dragonlady]

Not like there hasn't been guns around for the last two hundred plus years. You probably need to ask yourself what has changed with people, not guns.

So youre saying guns 200 years ago are the same as todays models?

So you're saying people 200 years ago are the same as today?

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

Something obviously changed.
People had legal Thompson Machineguns right after WWI, when they had a surplus and were dumping them for mail order $25 and no license required.
People did not used to do school shootings.
My father used to take his shotgun to elementary school with him, so he could try to shoot dinner on the way home.
In the 60s, 2 students were killed from knife fights, so a third of the teachers were armed.
So yes, people clearly have drastically changed in the last 200 years.
It does not take a mutation, it can be through conditioned responses.

The government banned Thompson sub machine guns because they were being used by gangs against police. Today the NRA prevents any weapon from being banned.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes unless youre saying there was a mutation that occurred and no one told me about.

It may have been only you that mutated. Every generation is different, work ethic for example, current batch of kids appear to have less of a work ethic than their parents, parents different from their parents. I'd say 200 years ago a lot was different.

No each generation is still human. The only thing thats changed is the killing power and efficiency of the weapons.

Each generation is still human? Hmmm...the weapon is still a gun.

A more powerful and efficient killing weapon nowdays. I dont see that same change or even rate of change reflected in humans.

That is totally wrong.
School shootings are not only fairly new, but rising drastically, and that has nothing at all to do with weapons. It has to do entirely with heightened emotions and lack of responsibility.
Here is the graph of school shootings. Back around 1920 is when full auto weapons were the cheapest and easiest to get, without any licensing requirements at all.

Why does you chart only go to 2010 and what constitutes a school shooting for the purposes of that chart?