For the last Time, "skeptics," the SUN is NOT the cause of climate change, and "solar cycle" was put out by the fraud

humans don't control climate is my point. Land mass and water contribute depending on where you live longitude and latitude from the sun and gravity, moon as well.

Land use contributes ... just a city's worth of asphalt will raise temperature 3ยบC ... if cities cover 1% of the ground, then we've raised average temperatures by 0.03ยบC on land ... 0.005ยบC globally ... yes, plus, AGW ...
 
Land use contributes ... just a city's worth of asphalt will raise temperature 3ยบC ... if cities cover 1% of the ground, then we've raised average temperatures by 0.03ยบC on land ... 0.005ยบC globally ... yes, plus, AGW ...
humans are nature.
 
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Brought to you by people who don't think words have gender ... you can't change your sex, but you can change your pronoun ... [giggle] ... and plurals are genderless in English, feminine in German and I don't know about the Romantics ...
 
humans are nature.

Very very much true ... humans are part of the environment ... we, and all other respitory creatures, have profoundly altered the atmosphere ... from 96% CO2 to N2/O2 mixture ... mainly cyanobacteria ... humans are just trying to restore the proper balance ...
 
Hilarious. How many times do you guys have to admit you have no idea what AGW is about ? Itโ€™s getting weary listening to dullards.
Military was deployed to Guam to recover from a typhoon, can you believe they landed on the runway? Guam Looks upright to me.

 
Very very much true ... humans are part of the environment ... we, and all other respitory creatures, have profoundly altered the atmosphere ... from 96% CO2 to N2/O2 mixture ... mainly cyanobacteria ... humans are just trying to restore the proper balance ...
no, humans and all respitory creatures use the available resources the planet provides. We should be encouraging growth of plant life by increasing CO2 in the atmosphere.
 
no, humans and all respitory creatures use the available resources the planet provides. We should be encouraging growth of plant life by increasing CO2 in the atmosphere.

There's 8 billion of us turning plants back into the carbon dioxide that makes them ... human population and the Keeling Curve are perfect correlation ... 100% ...
 
Post 501 above links to that debate where you were destroyed, parroting one McBullshit "study" that claimed wood outside for 20k years did not decompose.

Every single measure of Earth glaciers today shows McBullshit is off by a factor of at least 20 fold...

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You want us to believe that a 2.5 mile thick glacier on Chicago that originated in Northern Canada is from an ice age just 75k years old. 2.5 mile thick glaciers in antarctica gave us 800k years of ice core data. Greenland's ice age took one million years to travel 1k miles - 1 mile per 1000 years.

75k years after North American Ice Age began, the ice was still hundreds of miles north of Chicago, and Chicago had no ice.

McBullshit is laughable, and your trolling bullshit proves you have NO DATA to refute any of what is posted...

You have no evidence. No real evidence.
 
All those things may very well have a measuralbe effect on climate, provided the sun remains. W/o the sun none of those things will be able to restore climate. It sure seems to me that the sun has a predominant overwhelming affect. The best all those other things can be is "controversial".
Your powers of observation do you credit

(Sarcasm off)
 
Yes it is. You must be running out of quarters.
right, You've lost quite a few .. not sure what's left of you.

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you may be right. At the same time you may not be right. w/ the sun either Greenland or North America will thaw. w/o the sun both will freeze. Sure seems to me that the sun is the overwhelmingly predominant influence on climate.
on the climate, but this is climate CHANGE, and nothing about the Sun has CHANGED relative to Earth for billions of years...
Actually, the sun in fact does change, and in just a billion years it will make the earth so hot that the oceans will boil. Huge changes in climate should be expected. More importantly (to me) are the orbital variations, the way the earth/sun distance goes from 91 million miles to 95million between July and January. The inverse square law then puts the solar radiation at the square of the distance change. Add to that we got the earth's precession giving us a shift in tilt by a few degrees, more changes.

So we know the sun affects the earth's climates in ways that are easily measurable. What is less measurable is the popular 'climate change' meme that has the earth heating up a degree or two over the past 150 years or so. The general agreement is the increase in temperature. What is not generally agreed is what the earth's average temperature is now and what the earth's avearge temperature was 150 years ago.

To me that makes no sense. I'll agree that's what we got but no other study of heat flow can have a change of temperature w/o knowing the beginning and ending temperatures. It's simply a defiance of reality.
 
Land use contributes ... just a city's worth of asphalt will raise temperature 3ยบC ... if cities cover 1% of the ground, then we've raised average temperatures by 0.03ยบC on land ... 0.005ยบC globally ... yes, plus, AGW ...


Urban Heat Sink Effect is all the warming they have in the raw data. Nothing else is warming. All other claims are fudge.
 
You have no evidence. No real evidence.


LOL!!!

Over and over, why the thread was started - all the evidence available to mankind is there.

Tectonic plate movement = North America was within 600 miles of the North Pole beginning 50 million years ago
Speed of ice age glacier = per Greenland about a mile per thousand years, or 500 times slower than McBullshit
Age of glacier ice = Greenland is at least a million years old, and it took a million for it to get from top to bottom, not even the full distance of Ellesmere to Chicago - your side not only says 75k, but that the glaciers on Chicago were 2.5 miles thick too. Greenland's ice south of Arctic Circle is less than a mile thick.
Ice Cores = apples to apples, Antarctica is 2.5 miles thick = 800k years of ice core data, and researchers are trying to extract more - but just that is more than 10x the McBullshit "age" on Chicago

And then your McBullshit "study" LIED about dating wood in nature 20k years old - LOL!!!

ALL DATA supports North American Ice Age 30-50 million years

NO DATA supports McBullshit

"Study" supplied by you on McBullshit outed as FRAUD


GAME OVER
 
the sun in fact does change, and in just a billion years it will make the earth so hot that the oceans will boil.


Plenty of hydrogen left. A billion years from now, an aggressive estimate, when it runs out of hydrogen, the Sun will cause Earth climate change. Until then, it is not changing anything...
 

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