FLASHBACK: 'No Risk' USA Will Lose Its Top Credit Rating. Says,Treasury's Geithner

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Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said Tuesday there is "no risk" the U.S. will lose its top credit rating amid a new analysis that revised its outlook on American debt to "negative."

Geithner took to the airwaves of financial news networks to push back against a report Monday by Standard & Poor's that lowered its outlook on U.S. debt to "negative," reflecting political uncertainty over whether lawmakers will reach an agreement to address long-term debt.

There is no chance that the U.S. will lose its top credit rating, Geithner said, forcefully disputing the notion that S&P or other ratings services might downgrade U.S. bonds from their current AAA rating.

"No risk of that, no risk," Geithner said on the Fox Business Network.


"Washington is a hard place to read. And it's hard for people to look past the political rhetoric and try to understand whether the leadership of Washington is going to take the tough steps necessary to get ahead of this problem," the Treasury secretary explained. "I think the prospects for a bipartisan agreement are better than they've been in a long period of time. Of course, we have to turn that into action."

To help alleviate pressure, Geithner said he would prefer Congress authorize a substantial increase in the debt ceiling, though the secretary said the administration would defer to Congress in making the ultimate determination.

"If it were up to me, knowing that you want the world to know that our commitment to meet our obligation will never be in question, you would do it for as long as possible," he said. "Important to recognize that even under Paul Ryan's budget plan, you'd have to raise the debt limit by probably $2 trillion over the next 18 months to get through this, roughly the same amount as in the president's framework."

The administration trotted Geithner out on Tuesday after the S&P report rattled markets on Monday and drove Republican criticism of the White House over the Obama administration's deficit-reduction plans.

The Republican-held House passed a budget last week that would make substantial cuts over the next decade and reshape entitlement programs. But that plan, authored by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), isn't expected to advance through the Senate and reach Obama's desk, and the administration has launched a new round of negotiations aimed at reaching an agreement on deficit reduction.

The administration announced Monday that Vice President Joe Biden would spearhead those negotiations in a summit May 5 at Blair House, though it's not clear whether Republicans on Capitol Hill intend to participate. Those meetings run parallel to talks held by the Gang of Six in the Senate intended to advance another bipartisan plan for tackling deficits and debt.

Geithner said a key step toward reducing uncertainty over U.S. debt would be to authorize an increase in the debt ceiling, a step lawmakers will need to take some time this spring, but which Republicans have insisted must be paired with serious fiscal reforms.

Congress last authorized an increase in February 2010, raising the limit by $1.9 trillion to a total of $14.3 trillion.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mon...r-no-risk-that-us-loses-its-top-credit-rating
 
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Geithner made that statement on April 19, 2011. I doubt he could have foreseen the bizarre T-Republican dysfunctionality that would follow.
 
I love how the Obama Administration is pissed off that Standard And Poor's doesn't subscribe to the debt accounting principles of Obamanomics:

Update at 9:57 p.m. ET. Administration Says Decision Flawed:

CNN reports that the Obama administration reacted "angrily" at the S&P announcement. Here's what a Treasury official said:

"A judgment flawed by a $2 trillion error speaks for itself."

CNN also quotes another administration official saying the move was a "facts-be-damned decision."

"Their analysis was way off, but they wouldn't budge," the official told CNN.

S&P told NPR's Tamara Keith that it would have no comment on the administration's claim that their initial assessment included a $2 trillion math error.

According to the Obama Administration, everyone (Republicans, credit rating agencies) is wrong and debt shouldn't be accounted for.
 
The result of the latest vote was irrelevant to this - it was bound to happen either way. And, anyone who thought otherwise was unrealistic.
 
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said Tuesday there is "no risk" the U.S. will lose its top credit rating amid a new analysis that revised its outlook on American debt to "negative."

Another convenient lie by the administration.
 
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said Tuesday there is "no risk" the U.S. will lose its top credit rating amid a new analysis that revised its outlook on American debt to "negative."

Another convenient lie by the administration.
But look how many actually bought it. The Useful Idiots bought it hook, line, and sinker.

And, the credit rating fell, as it should have. But, they believed the lies that it wouldn't.

Amazing how this administration has such power to suck the IQ out of so many en masse.
 
Geithner made that statement on April 19, 2011. I doubt he could have foreseen the bizarre T-Republican dysfunctionality that would follow.

Yea blame those Republicans. They wanted to cut more in order to actuallly lower the debt, but the Dems refused.

The rating is being lowered because the Dems, which still control the government, have demonstrated that they have not gotten the message from the last election and have every intention of spending more than the government takes in.
 
This is a shameful day for the USA.

The fallout will be even worse.
 
We lost it today, down to AA+, thank you Obama, you have successfully fundamentally changed America. But you will go no further without a firm ass whoopen from we the people, I beg you to dare try it. We are ready for your UN weapons sanctions and your communist agenda, try me asshole and see what happens.

Holy shit, that is scary! I bet you just love listening to Dr. Laura Schlessinger...
 
CNN: Chinese agency downgrades U.S. credit rating for the 3rd time.
The Dagong Global Credit Rating Company, which lowered the United States to A+ last November after the U.S. Federal Reserve decided to continue loosening its monetary policy, announced a further downgrade to A


German Rating Agency Feri Downgrades US Government Bonds: AAA to AA! | zero hedge
The first Western downgrade of US government bonds is a fact! The German credit rating agency Feri lowered its rating on US debt by a full notch, from AAA to AA.

"The U.S. government has fought the effects of the financial market crisis primarily by an increase in government debt. We do not see that there is sufficient attention being paid to other measures, "said Dr. Tobias Schmidt, CEO of Feri Rating & Research AG. "Our rating system shows a deterioration in economic health, so the downgrading of the credit ratings of U.S. is warranted."

For the third consecutive year the deficit of the United States is in double digit percentages relative to gross domestic product (GDP). "Deficits of such magnitude are not a sustainable fiscal policy. We would reconsider the rating when the U.S. government creates a long-term sustainable budget," said Schmidt. German press release: Feri Downgrades US Gov Debt AAA to AA


Egan-Jones Downgrades US From AAA To AA+ It had nothing to do with the current Debt Limit!!! It was due to the looming 100% Debt to GDP ratio.
Generally we devise modeling calculators and do an analysis that examines the debt load of a country with respect to its GDP and other economic indicators. The analysis is then adjusted to reflect the outlook on a myriad of factors that reflect the firm’s overall view of the sovereign debt and the quality of the country’s ability to meet and thrive under such load. Some of the qualitative factors that impact our ultimate assessment of credit quality such as the flexibility, stability and overall strength of the economy, ease of tax collection, acceptance of contract law, ease of doing business, and prospects for future growth and health. The non quant issues are generally subjective and a moving target, so each rating of a sovereign may differ because of the non-quantitative nuances being addressed.


Moody's lowered its outlook on U.S. debt to "negative." | CNN
Credit rating agency Moody's said Tuesday the United States will keep its sterling AAA credit rating for the time being, but lowered its outlook on U.S. debt to "negative."

A "negative outlook" indicates the possibility that Moody's would downgrade the country's sovereign credit rating within a year or two.


S&P Downgraded US Credit to AA+ | AP
S&P said that in addition to the downgrade, it is issuing a negative outlook, meaning that there was a chance it will lower the rating further within the next two years. It said such a downgrade, to AA, would occur if the agency sees smaller reductions in spending than Congress and the administration have agreed to make, higher interest rates or new fiscal pressures during this period.

"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics"


Fitch Statement Shows US Downgrade Risk Remains In Play
Fitch said that it “projects that US government debt, including debt incurred by state and local governments as well as the federal government, will reach 100% of GDP by the end of 2012, and will continue to rise over the medium term - a profile that is not consistent with the United States retaining its 'AAA' sovereign rating.”

Gold upgrade to a Tier 1 Asset while US Bonds get downgraded.
 
All part of the plan, folks.

The death of socialistic nationalism and the advancement of feudual internationalism is, I still believe, the long term agenda.

If it is NOT on the agenda, then our leaders are rather dumb because everything that is occurring is leading us in this direction

And, as I do NOT think the masters of our universe as cluess idiots, I have to conclude that at least some major players in various governments and corporate boards are actively working toward this ultimate goal.
 
Geithner made that statement on April 19, 2011. I doubt he could have foreseen the bizarre T-Republican dysfunctionality that would follow.



Looking back at the intervening months since that time, the TEA Party/Republicans had voted on and passed two different budget/debt ceiling Bills out of the house before the Senate even discussed one on the floor. The Democrat Party is the villain in this denial of responsibility.

The House passed a funding bill for the FAA months before the "crisis" occurred. Within that bill was the recognition that airports that need a $3000/passenger subsidy don't need an airport.

How many facts and how much reality need one ignor to maintain the belief that the Democrat Party is anything but a group of coniving liars with nothing more on their agenda than getting re-elected?

They have no plans, no ideas, no courage and no priciples.

Believing the Democrats have the answers is like believing the Vikings will win the Super Bowl.
 
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner said Tuesday there is "no risk" the U.S. will lose its top credit rating amid a new analysis that revised its outlook on American debt to "negative."

Geithner took to the airwaves of financial news networks to push back against a report Monday by Standard & Poor's that lowered its outlook on U.S. debt to "negative," reflecting political uncertainty over whether lawmakers will reach an agreement to address long-term debt.

There is no chance that the U.S. will lose its top credit rating, Geithner said, forcefully disputing the notion that S&P or other ratings services might downgrade U.S. bonds from their current AAA rating.

"No risk of that, no risk," Geithner said on the Fox Business Network.


"Washington is a hard place to read. And it's hard for people to look past the political rhetoric and try to understand whether the leadership of Washington is going to take the tough steps necessary to get ahead of this problem," the Treasury secretary explained. "I think the prospects for a bipartisan agreement are better than they've been in a long period of time. Of course, we have to turn that into action."

To help alleviate pressure, Geithner said he would prefer Congress authorize a substantial increase in the debt ceiling, though the secretary said the administration would defer to Congress in making the ultimate determination.

"If it were up to me, knowing that you want the world to know that our commitment to meet our obligation will never be in question, you would do it for as long as possible," he said. "Important to recognize that even under Paul Ryan's budget plan, you'd have to raise the debt limit by probably $2 trillion over the next 18 months to get through this, roughly the same amount as in the president's framework."

The administration trotted Geithner out on Tuesday after the S&P report rattled markets on Monday and drove Republican criticism of the White House over the Obama administration's deficit-reduction plans.

The Republican-held House passed a budget last week that would make substantial cuts over the next decade and reshape entitlement programs. But that plan, authored by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), isn't expected to advance through the Senate and reach Obama's desk, and the administration has launched a new round of negotiations aimed at reaching an agreement on deficit reduction.

The administration announced Monday that Vice President Joe Biden would spearhead those negotiations in a summit May 5 at Blair House, though it's not clear whether Republicans on Capitol Hill intend to participate. Those meetings run parallel to talks held by the Gang of Six in the Senate intended to advance another bipartisan plan for tackling deficits and debt.

Geithner said a key step toward reducing uncertainty over U.S. debt would be to authorize an increase in the debt ceiling, a step lawmakers will need to take some time this spring, but which Republicans have insisted must be paired with serious fiscal reforms.

Congress last authorized an increase in February 2010, raising the limit by $1.9 trillion to a total of $14.3 trillion.

'No risk' the US will lose its top credit rating, says Treasury's Geithner - The Hill's On The Money



Ah, for the good ol' days.

Don't you wish Lassie would run to us barking, explaining that little Timmy had fallen down the well?

Still another of the wimp/moron/liar brigade in this administration that never get tired of being wrong. If it wasn't so important that they be successful, this would be comically funny. In the entire time this gang of clowns has been in charge they have been wrong about every single thing they have taken up.

Every single thing. It's an unblemished record of failure.
 
We lost it today, down to AA+, thank you Obama, you have successfully fundamentally changed America. But you will go no further without a firm ass whoopen from we the people, I beg you to dare try it. We are ready for your UN weapons sanctions and your communist agenda, try me asshole and see what happens.

Holy shit, that is scary! I bet you just love listening to Dr. Laura Schlessinger...


If the incompetent gang of buffoons in the Administration don't leave you terrified, take a look at the Senate Leadership.

This really is scary. I just hope we make it to the next election. If the Big 0 has his way, we won't. The credit rating drop is just one more in a series of warnings that are being ignored by the guy at the wheel.
 
Geithner made that statement on April 19, 2011. I doubt he could have foreseen the bizarre T-Republican dysfunctionality that would follow.

Then he needs to get another job because he's going around with his head up his ass.

Any man on the street could see what was coming except for Tiny Tim Geithner.
 
The result of the latest vote was irrelevant to this - it was bound to happen either way. And, anyone who thought otherwise was unrealistic.

Yep.

But, you gotta admit, this Administration is taking the phrase 'rising to the level of your individual incompetence' to a whole new level.

The only thing that surprises me is that the left are still defending it. Perhaps they care more about political agenda than country?
 
We lost it today, down to AA+, thank you Obama, you have successfully fundamentally changed America. But you will go no further without a firm ass whoopen from we the people, I beg you to dare try it. We are ready for your UN weapons sanctions and your communist agenda, try me asshole and see what happens.

Holy shit, that is scary! I bet you just love listening to Dr. Laura Schlessinger...


If the incompetent gang of buffoons in the Administration don't leave you terrified, take a look at the Senate Leadership.

This really is scary. I just hope we make it to the next election. If the Big 0 has his way, we won't. The credit rating drop is just one more in a series of warnings that are being ignored by the guy at the wheel.

He's not ignoring it. He wants it. This is a fundamental step in 'redistributing the wealth'. The problem is that Americans thought he meant redistributing the wealth of individuals to others within the country. He didn't. He meant destroying the United States as the economic powerhouse of the world. He's redistributing our country's wealth.
 
The result of the latest vote was irrelevant to this - it was bound to happen either way. And, anyone who thought otherwise was unrealistic.

Yep.

But, you gotta admit, this Administration is taking the phrase 'rising to the level of your individual incompetence' to a whole new level.

The only thing that surprises me is that the left are still defending it. Perhaps they care more about political agenda than country?

Thats been a given for a long time. Lets bring in the SUPER DELEGATES for their opinion, shall we.
 

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