First for marijuana and same sex marriage

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57546156/marijuana-same-sex-marriage-initiatives-are-winners/


    Well, with all the buzz over the presidential results something happened that has been overlooked: for the FIRST time, marijuana and same sex marriages have been voted as legal by the people. It is interesting that same sex marriages have finally become accepted enough to be voted on as legal after more than 30 failures across the nation in such liberal bastions as CA to boot. This is the wind of change.

    As far as Marijuana, I am wondering what the feds response here is going to be. I would love nothing more than to see the federal government simply drop the entire drug war altogether but I don't think that Obama is willing to do so BUT I can see him not challenging the state laws. It should be interesting to see how this plays out.
     
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    Uhmmm california did both the feds overturned weed and the mormons gay marriage.
     
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    No, CA did not. CA passed a LAW (not a vote) for same sex marriage and then the VOTE overturned it. This is the first time that a majority of the voters have actually passed same sex marriage.

    Again, CA has NEVER legalized marijuana. They did pass a medical marijuana law and, as far as I know, the feds HAVE NOT overturned it. It is still alive and kicking. Now, RECREATIONAL marijuana use is legal in 2 states. That is, marijuana is fully legal in those states. Still against federal law though and I did cover that in the OP.
     
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    Yep, gay marriage had a clean sweep yesterday.

    Three states had the legalization of marriage on their ballots. Washington, Maryland, and Maine.

    All three states approved.


    What's more, Minnesota had a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage on their ballot, and it failed.


    Quite a victory for the gay community. Congratulations to all of you. And congratulations to those four states which finally did the right thing.

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    Washington state had a measure to legalize the sale of marijuana. It was approved.

    It is going to be very interesting to see how the federal government reacts to this.

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    I suspect that as it pertains to marijuana, those two states that legalized it completely aren't going to be alone for long.


    As their public coffers fill up with marijuana taxes, other state governments are going to take notice and decide to hell with what the FEDs say on the subject.


    I'd expect medical marijuana states to start lining up for reforendum votes on this issue soon, too.


    Speaking from the perspective of Maine where medical marijuana is already legal, and where, as a result, the MAFIA's dirtweed marijuana trade has virtunally COLLAPSED in the last year, as more and more folks either become MM patients or buy their hemp from friends who can get the much superior grade of MM over the mafia's Mexican dirtweed...the complete legalization of marijuana state by state seems very probably in the decade or so.
     
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    It is. I think that Obama is going to leave it alone though as long as they don't try sales. As far as I can tell, the law actually should allow the sale (not by the corner dealer but through state approved regulated business) and regulation BUT I don't think that is going to happen. Not, at least, if WA really does want this to happen.

    Freedom gains a small victory this election cycle. Very small.

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    Let's hope so. The right always complains about the border problem but then fails to realize that the legalization of marijuana would virtually eliminate this issue. No money for illegal drug trade means that illegal drug trade ceases to exist and that is the worst of the problems at the border.
     
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    Of course even this happy development has blowback.

    The poor working stiff I used to buy my hemp from has gone out of business because MM is so superior to the shit he had to sell that the black market could provide.

    But for most of us and for our state, the Medical Marijuana laws positive outcomes exceed its negatives ones.

    Not only do most of us save money because we smoke less to get the same benefits, but we can smoke knowing that the profit is staying local and we are NOT supporting with our purchases the worst criminals in the Western hemishpere, too.

    Now this is something that should have happened 30 years ago, but better late than never.
     
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    Fair enough. Differences noted. I was thinking same outcomes...people have access.
     
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    Means those after-wedding parties will be all the better! :D
     

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