First circuit courts of appeals rule no right to bear arms outside the home

Shall not be infringed

a bunch of commas and militia talk. Its pretty poorly written or needs translated into real English.

What to do is look at how it was enforced in 1800 and that seems to be that folks could own guns and carry them around. I don't see the debate there.

Maybe guns can be registered, maybe guns can be restricted from certain places but it seems clear the application of the 2nd during the lifetimes of its writers even if it was poorly written.

Only because people like you are anti gun nutters

Smart politics would be to be friends with the guy who says the writers of the 2nd obviously intended folks to own firearms.

But yeah, if you wanna argue, I think your guns are effectively registered if you have a Google or Facebook app on your smartphone and the NRA is a bunch of idiots or scared sissy team worshipers for not realizing it and defending privacy rights.

Once again though, the implementation of the 2nd is clear, the NRA are idiot sissies or team worshipers and I'm just bringing the latter up since you poked me.

That's nice....but...shall not be infringed. Suck on it

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

ok, go join the National Guard and get a gun then! They might just send you to defend the border from folks we should make into future Americans lol.

Really your best argument is looking at how it was implemented not quoting the darned thing.
 
Gun nut scum defying authority. Carrying firearms out of their homes. The impudence!

iu
 
Shall not be infringed

a bunch of commas and militia talk. Its pretty poorly written or needs translated into real English.

What to do is look at how it was enforced in 1800 and that seems to be that folks could own guns and carry them around. I don't see the debate there.

Maybe guns can be registered, maybe guns can be restricted from certain places but it seems clear the application of the 2nd during the lifetimes of its writers even if it was poorly written.

Only because people like you are anti gun nutters

Smart politics would be to be friends with the guy who says the writers of the 2nd obviously intended folks to own firearms.

But yeah, if you wanna argue, I think your guns are effectively registered if you have a Google or Facebook app on your smartphone and the NRA is a bunch of idiots or scared sissy team worshipers for not realizing it and defending privacy rights.

Once again though, the implementation of the 2nd is clear, the NRA are idiot sissies or team worshipers and I'm just bringing the latter up since you poked me.

That's nice....but...shall not be infringed. Suck on it

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

ok, go join the National Guard and get a gun then! They might just send you to defend the border from folks we should make into future Americans lol.

Really your best argument is looking at how it was implemented not quoting the darned thing.

You mention how it was implemented in the 1800’s. That is actually a good test.

Militia Acts of 1792 - Wikipedia

According to Congress, the Milita was every able bodied free man. In other words, everyone. Today of course, we would say men and women. The well regulated meant that the Governor’s of the States could appoint officers, or Commission them. The Militia worked like this. You live in a town. Let’s call the Town Boogerville. A rider approaches and announces that the Indians are on the war path, and the Militia has been activated. The town with 100 able bodied men, must send no less than fifteen to fight. If fifteen volunteers were not found, then men were “pressed” into service. While serving, they were subject to military law, and discipline. Another facet of the “well regulated”.

More than fifteen could step up, but whatever the minimum number was, had to go. Some states had mandatory drill and marksmanship training after divine worship, as a law.

So the well regulated Militia, was officers appointed by the Governor, who had the authority of the rank they were commissioned at, and the free men (white guys) who could be called up to defend their community, or state, as needed. In other words, everyone.
 
"The British are coming. Put away your guns. The British are coming. Put away your guns."

Was taught to generations of American schoolboys never.


iu
 
ok, go join the National Guard and get a gun then!

United States Code
Title 10 - ARMED FORCES
Subtitle A - General Military Law
PART I - ORGANIZATION AND GENERAL MILITARY POWERS
CHAPTER 13 - THE MILITIA
Sec. 311 - Militia: composition and classes
From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov

§311. Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
 
ok, go join the National Guard and get a gun then!

United States Code
Title 10 - ARMED FORCES
Subtitle A - General Military Law
PART I - ORGANIZATION AND GENERAL MILITARY POWERS
CHAPTER 13 - THE MILITIA
Sec. 311 - Militia: composition and classes
From the U.S. Government Publishing Office, www.gpo.gov

§311. Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Now I really so thank you for posting that. No one has for a year I've been making fun of the language.


This part is good "§311. Militia: composition and classes


(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied..."

The age part loses it though, I guess 52 year olds cand own a gun lol.
 
Now I really so thank you for posting that. No one has for a year I've been making fun of the language.

I'm no constitutional scholar. The 18th century language is confusing to us only because we don't read our history. As a history buff, I get what our founding fathers meant. It's a pity the indoctrination centers, oops, I mean schools don't teach history in context.

As an aviator, I read:

Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

As:

If you want an airline or an Air Force, you have to have trained pilots.

Aircraft, like rifles are just tools. It's the well trained operators that make a well maintained, well trained airline or Air Force.

Any government boob who infringes on said training is a twatwaffle and therefore, we shall write an amendment to prevent such twatwafflish behavior.

If Madison were alive today, do you think he would object to my use of "twatwaffle"?

iu
 
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No argument. I think the links are hilarious. "Guns up the ass reports on carry restrictions."
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The Circuit court ruled on a narrow point of Massachusetts state law, hardly applicable to to the entire country much less to the 2nd Amendment as a whole.

So if Georgia the state I live in, decided to ban a religion, as a State, then that would be fine, since it didn’t apply the the nation as a whole, much less to the entire First Amendment? The Bill of Rights are individual rights, available and guaranteed to all citizens, in the nation. It is a promise to each of us individually. I may not exercise my First Amendment right to peaceably assemble, but it is my right, and it should not be laughed off as a few people, or not affecting things as a whole.

It is one of the reasons why I object to police misconduct. It might only happen in a few cases, but those rights, are individual and when one of us loses just a little, it affects the whole, and should be opposed by the whole of all citizens.
 
Infringed to radicals may not be what the majority decides. Firearms extremists should get realistic or the results will be much worse than they should be.
 
U.S.A. -(Ammoland.com)- On 2 November 2018, the First Circuit Court of Appeals held the Second Amendment effectively does not apply outside the home. From uscourts.gov:

This case involves a constitutional challenge to the Massachusetts firearms licensing statute, as implemented in the communities of Boston and Brookline. All of the individual plaintiffs sought and received licenses from one of those two communities to carry firearms in public. The licenses, though, were restricted: they allowed the plaintiffs to carry firearms only in relation to certain specified activities but denied them the right to carry firearms more generally.
First Circuit Court of Appeals Rule No Right to Bear Arms Outside the Home
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http://media.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opinions/17-2202P-01A.pdf


Well the morons will turn them in when they offer you money for them, pushed into hard times hard up for money why turn in your guns we will give you money for them , that way we can sell them back out into the streets.

That way it takes away all your methods that are free will and a right to protect your home, family etc...

They are pushing for the COPS to lose their guns too.

It is a sad day when ppl are so dumbed down they haven't a clue the 2nd amendment is for . MORE THAN TO OWN A GUN ILLITERATE IDIOTS.


well that will go up the hill eventually to the SC
 
U.S.A. -(Ammoland.com)- On 2 November 2018, the First Circuit Court of Appeals held the Second Amendment effectively does not apply outside the home. From uscourts.gov:

This case involves a constitutional challenge to the Massachusetts firearms licensing statute, as implemented in the communities of Boston and Brookline. All of the individual plaintiffs sought and received licenses from one of those two communities to carry firearms in public. The licenses, though, were restricted: they allowed the plaintiffs to carry firearms only in relation to certain specified activities but denied them the right to carry firearms more generally.
First Circuit Court of Appeals Rule No Right to Bear Arms Outside the Home
View attachment 228714

http://media.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opinions/17-2202P-01A.pdf


Well the morons will turn them in when they offer you money for them, pushed into hard times hard up for money why turn in your guns we will give you money for them , that way we can sell them back out into the streets.

That way it takes away all your methods that are free will and a right to protect your home, family etc...

They are pushing for the COPS to lose their guns too.

It is a sad day when ppl are so dumbed down they haven't a clue the 2nd amendment is for . MORE THAN TO OWN A GUN ILLITERATE IDIOTS.

Same could be said for the First Amendment too, right? You leave home without it
 
So if Georgia the state I live in, decided to ban a religion, as a State, then that would be fine, since it didn’t apply the the nation as a whole, much less to the entire First Amendment? The Bill of Rights are individual rights, available and guaranteed to all citizens, in the nation. It is a promise to each of us individually. I may not exercise my First Amendment right to peaceably assemble, but it is my right, and it should not be laughed off as a few people, or not affecting things as a whole.It is one of the reasons why I object to police misconduct. It might only happen in a few cases, but those rights, are individual and when one of us loses just a little, it affects the whole, and should be opposed by the whole of all citizens.
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You can read into it it anything you please. The point remains, it was a ruling meant for the state of Massachusetts.
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So if Georgia the state I live in, decided to ban a religion, as a State, then that would be fine, since it didn’t apply the the nation as a whole, much less to the entire First Amendment? The Bill of Rights are individual rights, available and guaranteed to all citizens, in the nation. It is a promise to each of us individually. I may not exercise my First Amendment right to peaceably assemble, but it is my right, and it should not be laughed off as a few people, or not affecting things as a whole.It is one of the reasons why I object to police misconduct. It might only happen in a few cases, but those rights, are individual and when one of us loses just a little, it affects the whole, and should be opposed by the whole of all citizens.
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You can read into it it anything you please. The point remains, it was a ruling meant for the state of Massachusetts.
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The Second over rides state law.

This ruling will be struck down, has to be. The Constitution always wins
 
Shall not be infringed

a bunch of commas and militia talk. Its pretty poorly written or needs translated into real English.

What to do is look at how it was enforced in 1800 and that seems to be that folks could own guns and carry them around. I don't see the debate there.

Maybe guns can be registered, maybe guns can be restricted from certain places but it seems clear the application of the 2nd during the lifetimes of its writers even if it was poorly written.
You got to read it in the context of the era… Apparently you’re too stupid to realize that
 

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