Fire National Anthem Kneelers

[protectionist]

The post you quoted was in response to your post of "What is sad is your disrespect for the country, its flag, its national anthem, and military members who died, so you can mouth off, as you're doing here now".

Defamatory? Yep.
Hateful? Yep.
Likely to offend? Yep.

So you worry about your own posts and I will worry about mine.

if you ever were to file a slander suit based on those premises, you wouldn't collect a dime. That sentence of mine is INFORMATIVE, nothing like what you wrote. Bedtime now. Pleasant dreams.

 

[WinterBorn]

Thuggish? LMAO!! Did I scare you?

Your claims about my patriotism were uncalled for and uncivilized too. We'll call it even.

As for Florida, I worked for years in Tampa, Sarasota and Venice. I insulted several seniors in those years. Never did time for any of it. In fact, the police were never called. Apparently the seniors, who are snowflakes like you, live elsewhere.

Please stop insulting the seniors, OK ?

PS - thugs don't scare me. I'm a Republican. I walk the streets in my neighborhood, and the Tampa thugs need to keep away from me. I carry a gun (licensed), a pepper spray, a box cutter, and wear steel toe Army combat shoes.

Look, I am not insulting seniors. I am insulting you. The fact that you are a senior does not change that.

And, I will be 58 in a few months. So it is not as if I am some youngster preying on old people.

 

[WinterBorn]

The post you quoted was in response to your post of "What is sad is your disrespect for the country, its flag, its national anthem, and military members who died, so you can mouth off, as you're doing here now".

Defamatory? Yep.
Hateful? Yep.
Likely to offend? Yep.

So you worry about your own posts and I will worry about mine.

if you ever were to file a slander suit based on those premises, you wouldn't collect a dime. That sentence of mine is INFORMATIVE, nothing like what you wrote. Bedtime now. Pleasant dreams.

And you would collect on what I said? No, you would not.

The sentence of yours is defamatory, hateful and offensive. After crowing on and on about patriotism, you now have the gall to say your intentional insults aimed at my patriotism is all fine and dandy? Ok, so in addition to being a liar and an asshole, you are a hypocrite? Ok.

 

[Joe Hunt Deer]

The Patriot Act now authorizes this court to issue search orders directed at any U.S. citizen who the FBI believes may be involved in terrorist activities. Such activities may, in part, even involve First Amendment protected acts such as participating in non-violent public protests.

There's a new bible in town and it's called the " Patriot Act " ..

 

[WinterBorn]

The Patriot Act now authorizes this court to issue search orders directed at any U.S. citizen who the FBI believes may be involved in terrorist activities. Such activities may, in part, even involve First Amendment protected acts such as participating in non-violent public protests.

There's a new bible in town and it's called the " Patriot Act " ..

The old bible, namely the US Constitution, is still the law of the land.

Also, look at how the patriot act defines terrorism. Nothing those athletes are doing fits that definition.

 

[Joe Hunt Deer]

The Patriot Act now authorizes this court to issue search orders directed at any U.S. citizen who the FBI believes may be involved in terrorist activities. Such activities may, in part, even involve First Amendment protected acts such as participating in non-violent public protests.

There's a new bible in town and it's called the " Patriot Act " ..

The old bible, namely the US Constitution, is still the law of the land.

Also, look at how the patriot act defines terrorism. Nothing those athletes are doing fits that definition.

I'm just showing that you can be charged under the act for non-violent public protest .

 

[WinterBorn]

The Patriot Act now authorizes this court to issue search orders directed at any U.S. citizen who the FBI believes may be involved in terrorist activities. Such activities may, in part, even involve First Amendment protected acts such as participating in non-violent public protests.

There's a new bible in town and it's called the " Patriot Act " ..

The old bible, namely the US Constitution, is still the law of the land.

Also, look at how the patriot act defines terrorism. Nothing those athletes are doing fits that definition.

I'm just showing that you can be charged under the act for non-violent public protest .

If it does not break any law or threaten anyone, you can't.

"The Patriot Act defines "domestic terrorism" as activities within the United States that . . . involve acts dangerous to human life that. . . appear to be intended--

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping. . . ."

Now how does this apply to athletes kneeling during the national anthem?

 

[Joe Hunt Deer]

Keep in mind, I'm talking about SEC.215 of the Patriot Act .
Judge: PATRIOT Act trumps First Amendment protected speech of innocent citizens - The American Vision

Also SEC.215 was renewed on June 02, 2015 .
Section summary of the Patriot Act, Title II - Wikipedia

 

[AvgGuyIA]

You might. It will depend on whether or not your contract says it explicitly or whether you were failing to perform your job while you were protesting. Neither of those apply here.

FALSE! People get fired every day from jobs, contract or no contract.

If given a good reason. But expecting an employer to fire people who make them competitive in their market because some snowflake can't handle a few players kneeling during the national anthem, is absolutely ridiculous.

The term "snowflake" was coined for and is exclusive to only the liberal crybabies such as yourself. You don't get to redefine it to include people who are justifiably outraged at the disrespect given to our flag and the men who died defending the nation this Flag represents. To the black NFL players if they can't respect our fallen heroes, they can wrap themselves in the Flag as a symbol of their own emancipation.

 

[saltydancin]

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So insulting the nation should be illegal, in your view?

What should be illegal is those under color of law in this nation insulting the American public, where after more than 24 US Constitutions had been stolen & in all probability burned along with a couple absentee voting ballots then having some supreme swastika up Uranus court super ego of a suicidal Islam Christiananality pedophile mentality dictate one must vote while to more than 24 old glories which had been stolen & also in all probability burned; be told one must pray in a house of worship, since one nation under God only exists there.[/QUOTE]

Is english not your native language?[/QUOTE]

Being a descendant of ancestors in Scotland & England along with Washington, D.C. born, guessing like Islam's Christainananaltiy pedophile mentalities of attempting some skewed stand for the anthem or be fired as reason is the usual immaculate conception force be with you.

 

[saltydancin]

You sanctimonious prick. I have never disrespected the flag, national anthem, my country or anyone who died in service of our nation. Not once. But because I do not believe patriotism should be forced, you accused me of heinous acts? Fuck you.I earned my freedom too. But, unlike you, I do not demand that everyone think and believe the way
Deliberately kneeling during the national anthem is a lowlife, scummy act, done by spoiled brat idiots, which you wrongly condone.
This isn't an issue of > "patriotism should be forced" It's an issue of the opposite of patriotism not being tolerated.- where that is insult and disrespect for the country, and its military, past & present.

Deliberately kneeling during the national anthem is a lowlife, scummy act, done by spoiled brat idiots, which you wrongly condone.
This isn't an issue of > "patriotism should be forced" It's an issue of the opposite of patriotism not being tolerated.- where that is insult and disrespect for the country, and its military, past & present.

In not wasting time to vote due to KKK churchstate thieving absentee voting ballot thieves just as usually not wasting time on the national anthem due to thieving old glory arsonists & thieving US Constitution arsonists where 2 - 250 lb "serve the Pope or die" KKK churchstate cops obstructed standing at a university football game pressing on shoulders of maybe weighing 160 lb in lynching enforcement for Ike's old glory culprits, which have never been prosecuted as Ike & Berger contracted is still an insult as is telling Ike have no use for a one nation under God swastika. And as usual Islam's Christiananality pedophile mentalities utilize propaganda in national religion cognitive dissonance where in claiming it's kneelers protesting the flag when it's protesting those wearing the flag which get people killed like the Federal Lynching state of hate KKK churchstate cops immaculate drug conceptions in response to complaints of Arab terrorists that threatened POTUS & to nuke Temple Mount before 9/11.

 

[RASTAMEN]

LMAO!!!!

"This isn't an issue of > "patriotism should be forced" It's an issue of the opposite of patriotism not being tolerated.- where that is insult and disrespect for the country, and its military, past & present."

Can you not see the lunacy of your statement? You say it is not about forced patriotism, but you will not tolerate a lack of patriotism. WTF?

Can't YOU see the difference between the 2 statements ? Forcing somebody to do something (very easy), is not the same as not accepting something.

And you are in favor of forcing all of America to accept the insulting, disrespecting UNpatriotic act of the kneelers.

UJust make sure all you mouth breathing conservatives continues to place hand over your gutless hearts and stand for the Anthem......afterall no is stopping you.

 

[RASTAMEN]

LMAO! Yeah, the statute says one thing and you say another. Makes sense.

Dozens of 825.102 inmates of Florida prisons disagree. Denial is OK for some things. Not felonies.

Hey Bannon give us a break why don'tcha.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, this debate illustrates Mark Twain's definition of patriot.

Patriot.............the one who hollers the loudest without knowing what they are hollering about.

Those who are screaming that the NFL is disrespecting the military fit that definition perfectly.

 

[WinterBorn]

You know, this debate illustrates Mark Twain's definition of patriot.

Patriot.............the one who hollers the loudest without knowing what they are hollering about.

Those who are screaming that the NFL is disrespecting the military fit that definition perfectly.

Best post of the thread. Thank you.

 

[MrShangles]

The right to protest is guaranteed in the US Constitution. The protesters are not hurting anyone. They are not causing problems for anyone. They are protesting the actions against a minority. This "They are stomping on the flag!" and "They are pissing on the graves of every soldier who ever served" is just bullshit.

YOU are the bullshit, and everyone knows it (other than the airhead protestors).

1. Not all speech is free. Freedom of speech is the weakest part of the Constitution, and has numerous exceptions (sedition, slander, libel, abuse of elderly - FL statute 825.102, perjury, threats, inciting a riot, fighting words, disturbing the peace, etc. etc.

2. Of course they are hurting (everyone in America) - They're disrespecting the US military, the flag, and National Anthem, which represents the sacrifices of thousands of US military, alive now and who died to preserve the freedoms that these bonehead, spoiled brats now enjoy.

3. Actions against a minority ? So the Obama/Sharpton/Jackson race hustlers machine concocts a BS brew and you fall for it, huh ? Something tells me you're not that stupid.
I asked a local college football player (National Anthem kneeler) to tell me 3 case of police brutality against blacks. He cited 5.
Michael Brown & Darin Wilson........Betty Shelby & Terrence Crutcher......Pantaleo & Eric Garner.......Michael Sager & Walter Scott........Freddie Gray & the Baltimore 6.

All cases that were justifiable police action. Dumbbell kneelers

The kneelers should be FIRED. People get fired from jobs every day, by the thousands, for things THEY SAY. In private industry there is no such thing as freedom of speech.

1) I never said all speech was free. But the idea that you want to FIRE people who kneel quietly during the National Anthem is ridiculous. Do you want to require everyone stand and show proper patriotism? Because any country that requires that is the worst sort of dictatorship or socialist nightmare.

2) No, the people kneeling are NOT hurting anyone. Your claims to the contrary are delusional. And the kneeling athletes are not anti-soldier, and they are not doing anything to soldiers or the flag. They are quietly kneeling in protest. If you can't handle that, then the word "snowflake" doesn't even BEGIN to cover you.

3) I never said I agree with the reason they are protesting. But I served in the military to make sure they have the right to protest. I don't agree with the KKK. But I served to protect their rights too.

At least the KKK will defend our flag at all cost.



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[MrShangles]

You sanctimonious prick. I have never disrespected the flag, national anthem, my country or anyone who died in service of our nation. Not once. But because I do not believe patriotism should be forced, you accused me of heinous acts? Fuck you.I earned my freedom too. But, unlike you, I do not demand that everyone think and believe the way
Deliberately kneeling during the national anthem is a lowlife, scummy act, done by spoiled brat idiots, which you wrongly condone.
This isn't an issue of > "patriotism should be forced" It's an issue of the opposite of patriotism not being tolerated.- where that is insult and disrespect for the country, and its military, past & present.

Deliberately kneeling during the national anthem is a lowlife, scummy act, done by spoiled brat idiots, which you wrongly condone.
This isn't an issue of > "patriotism should be forced" It's an issue of the opposite of patriotism not being tolerated.- where that is insult and disrespect for the country, and its military, past & present.

In not wasting time to vote due to KKK churchstate thieving absentee voting ballot thieves just as usually not wasting time on the national anthem due to thieving old glory arsonists & thieving US Constitution arsonists where 2 - 250 lb "serve the Pope or die" KKK churchstate cops obstructed standing at a university football game pressing on shoulders of maybe weighing 160 lb in lynching enforcement for Ike's old glory culprits, which have never been prosecuted as Ike & Berger contracted is still an insult as is telling Ike have no use for a one nation under God swastika. And as usual Islam's Christiananality pedophile mentalities utilize propaganda in national religion cognitive dissonance where in claiming it's kneelers protesting the flag when it's protesting those wearing the flag which get people killed like the Federal Lynching state of hate KKK churchstate cops immaculate drug conceptions in response to complaints of Arab terrorists that threatened POTUS & to nuke Temple Mount before 9/11.

That’s a mouthful of blabbering, didn’t make any sense. Aren’t you a hateful person.


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[ABikerSailor]

The right to protest is guaranteed in the US Constitution. The protesters are not hurting anyone. They are not causing problems for anyone. They are protesting the actions against a minority. This "They are stomping on the flag!" and "They are pissing on the graves of every soldier who ever served" is just bullshit.

YOU are the bullshit, and everyone knows it (other than the airhead protestors).

1. Not all speech is free. Freedom of speech is the weakest part of the Constitution, and has numerous exceptions (sedition, slander, libel, abuse of elderly - FL statute 825.102, perjury, threats, inciting a riot, fighting words, disturbing the peace, etc. etc.

2. Of course they are hurting (everyone in America) - They're disrespecting the US military, the flag, and National Anthem, which represents the sacrifices of thousands of US military, alive now and who died to preserve the freedoms that these bonehead, spoiled brats now enjoy.

3. Actions against a minority ? So the Obama/Sharpton/Jackson race hustlers machine concocts a BS brew and you fall for it, huh ? Something tells me you're not that stupid.
I asked a local college football player (National Anthem kneeler) to tell me 3 case of police brutality against blacks. He cited 5.
Michael Brown & Darin Wilson........Betty Shelby & Terrence Crutcher......Pantaleo & Eric Garner.......Michael Sager & Walter Scott........Freddie Gray & the Baltimore 6.

All cases that were justifiable police action. Dumbbell kneelers

The kneelers should be FIRED. People get fired from jobs every day, by the thousands, for things THEY SAY. In private industry there is no such thing as freedom of speech.

1) I never said all speech was free. But the idea that you want to FIRE people who kneel quietly during the National Anthem is ridiculous. Do you want to require everyone stand and show proper patriotism? Because any country that requires that is the worst sort of dictatorship or socialist nightmare.

2) No, the people kneeling are NOT hurting anyone. Your claims to the contrary are delusional. And the kneeling athletes are not anti-soldier, and they are not doing anything to soldiers or the flag. They are quietly kneeling in protest. If you can't handle that, then the word "snowflake" doesn't even BEGIN to cover you.

3) I never said I agree with the reason they are protesting. But I served in the military to make sure they have the right to protest. I don't agree with the KKK. But I served to protect their rights too.

At least the KKK will defend our flag at all cost.



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You want the KKK to defend the flag? Really? A group of people who also display confederate battle flags and Nazi flags as well?

Those people and those flags offend me more than a player taking a knee does.

And I served over 20 years in the military.

 

[saltydancin]

3) I never said I agree with the reason they are protesting. But I served in the military to make sure they have the right to protest. I don't agree with the KKK. But I served to protect their rights too.[/QUOTE]

At least the KKK will defend our flag at all cost.
[/QUOTE]
That certainly clarifies why Byrd's KKK churchstate defended their rite to steal & burn more than 24 President Eisenhower presented for business excellence flags along with more than 24 US Constitutions while fabricating misnomers backed by immaculate drug conceptions utilizing their US fascist masochist threats to kill a senator even if one didn't attend; just as the Federal Lynching state KKK churchstate cops of hate attempting baptizing eyes by urination in D.C. while at lunch discussing Washington sports teams for failure to lynch an American for not standing for the national anthem due to not attending baseball games or other sports events for too many years; but then again how else could they pull off protecting Arab terrorists that threatened POTUS & to nuke Temple Mount before 9/11 as if those burning Bush's rights were higher than the US Supreme Court just as a West Nazi Germany Virginia KKK attack on a Navy Hospital to steal & burn a US Constitution on a cross. Never considered at the time there was a McHeil's Navy.

 

[WinterBorn]

The right to protest is guaranteed in the US Constitution. The protesters are not hurting anyone. They are not causing problems for anyone. They are protesting the actions against a minority. This "They are stomping on the flag!" and "They are pissing on the graves of every soldier who ever served" is just bullshit.

YOU are the bullshit, and everyone knows it (other than the airhead protestors).

1. Not all speech is free. Freedom of speech is the weakest part of the Constitution, and has numerous exceptions (sedition, slander, libel, abuse of elderly - FL statute 825.102, perjury, threats, inciting a riot, fighting words, disturbing the peace, etc. etc.

2. Of course they are hurting (everyone in America) - They're disrespecting the US military, the flag, and National Anthem, which represents the sacrifices of thousands of US military, alive now and who died to preserve the freedoms that these bonehead, spoiled brats now enjoy.

3. Actions against a minority ? So the Obama/Sharpton/Jackson race hustlers machine concocts a BS brew and you fall for it, huh ? Something tells me you're not that stupid.
I asked a local college football player (National Anthem kneeler) to tell me 3 case of police brutality against blacks. He cited 5.
Michael Brown & Darin Wilson........Betty Shelby & Terrence Crutcher......Pantaleo & Eric Garner.......Michael Sager & Walter Scott........Freddie Gray & the Baltimore 6.

All cases that were justifiable police action. Dumbbell kneelers

The kneelers should be FIRED. People get fired from jobs every day, by the thousands, for things THEY SAY. In private industry there is no such thing as freedom of speech.

1) I never said all speech was free. But the idea that you want to FIRE people who kneel quietly during the National Anthem is ridiculous. Do you want to require everyone stand and show proper patriotism? Because any country that requires that is the worst sort of dictatorship or socialist nightmare.

2) No, the people kneeling are NOT hurting anyone. Your claims to the contrary are delusional. And the kneeling athletes are not anti-soldier, and they are not doing anything to soldiers or the flag. They are quietly kneeling in protest. If you can't handle that, then the word "snowflake" doesn't even BEGIN to cover you.

3) I never said I agree with the reason they are protesting. But I served in the military to make sure they have the right to protest. I don't agree with the KKK. But I served to protect their rights too.

At least the KKK will defend our flag at all cost.



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No they won't. They will, however, happily waves flags from not one but two foreign nations that we fought a war against.
And anyone who would only defend the flag for white people is worse than anything these athletes have ever done.