Finally The Internet Generation Says No To The Terrorist Entity!

[pbel]

Finally the Internet generation says no to the terrorist entity!
Pro-Palestine protesters again thwart Israeli cargo ship in Oakland World news theguardian.com

Demonstrators approach the Port of Oakland in an attempt to prevent an Israeli ship from docking last month. Photograph: Jason Benttinen/Justin Benttinen/The Guardian
Protesters demonstrating against the recent Israeli military operation in Gaza have launched a fresh picket at the Port of Oakland in California, preventing an Israeli-owned container ship from unloading its cargo.
A picket of about 200 pro-Palestinian demonstrators campaigning under the title “Block the Boat” assembled on Saturday alongside the Zim Shanghai, a massive, 300-meter commercial vessel. No cargo was unloaded after members of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union refused to work on the ship, citing safety fears due to the crowd of protesters and police.
One of the protest organizers, Steve Zeltzer, said: “I think it was a big victory today for those who are opposed to the policies of Israel in Gaza.”
The successful action to frustrate the unloading of the Zim Shanghai follows similar protests last month in ports along the coast of California and in Florida. The Zim Shanghai’s sister ship, the Zim Piraeus, was blockaded for four days and prevented from unloading at the same port in Oakland. In the end, the vessel had to make its way to Los Angeles with its cargo still on board.
Further protests were staged in Seattle, Tacoma and Long Beach ports in California, and Tampa in Florida.

 

[montelatici]

With Apartheid South Africa, it started with little victories like this. But, Israel is far more powerful than Apartheid South Africa in terms of their power over the U.S. government.

 

[pbel]

With Apartheid South Africa, it started with little victories like this. But, Israel is far more powerful than Apartheid South Africa in terms of their power over the U.S. government.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Washington — (JTA) — If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans.
Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally. Add to that the results of a recent focus group culled from 12 congressional staffers — a small but very influential cohort — and pro-Israel activists are worried about the long-term sustainability of broad U.S. support for Israel in Congress.
Last Friday, a select group of Jewish institutions was sent a confidential summary of the staffers discussing the recent Gaza conflict. The tone of the summary, which was obtained by JTA, was one of alarm.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Finally the Internet generation says no to the terrorist entity!
Pro-Palestine protesters again thwart Israeli cargo ship in Oakland World news theguardian.com

Demonstrators approach the Port of Oakland in an attempt to prevent an Israeli ship from docking last month. Photograph: Jason Benttinen/Justin Benttinen/The Guardian
Protesters demonstrating against the recent Israeli military operation in Gaza have launched a fresh picket at the Port of Oakland in California, preventing an Israeli-owned container ship from unloading its cargo.
A picket of about 200 pro-Palestinian demonstrators campaigning under the title “Block the Boat” assembled on Saturday alongside the Zim Shanghai, a massive, 300-meter commercial vessel. No cargo was unloaded after members of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union refused to work on the ship, citing safety fears due to the crowd of protesters and police.
One of the protest organizers, Steve Zeltzer, said: “I think it was a big victory today for those who are opposed to the policies of Israel in Gaza.”
The successful action to frustrate the unloading of the Zim Shanghai follows similar protests last month in ports along the coast of California and in Florida. The Zim Shanghai’s sister ship, the Zim Piraeus, was blockaded for four days and prevented from unloading at the same port in Oakland. In the end, the vessel had to make its way to Los Angeles with its cargo still on board.
Further protests were staged in Seattle, Tacoma and Long Beach ports in California, and Tampa in Florida.

Finally the Internet generation says no to the terrorist entity!

Terror lovers come in all ages.

 

[shart_attack]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

 

[Hossfly]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

 

[pbel]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

The Chinese are not bombing civilians like animals while civlian Israelis were congregating and cheering as spectators like a Roman Coliseum battle feeding innocents to the Lions, all watching as bombs fell on Gaza and the killing was their entertainment!

Yea 'ol Hoss, blame it on anti-Semitism because you have no answer!

 

[toastman]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

The Chinese are not bombing civilians like animals while civlian Israelis were congregating and cheering as spectators like a Roman Coliseum battle feeding innocents to the Lions, all watching as bombs fell on Gaza and the killing was their entertainment!

Yea 'ol Hoss, blame it on anti-Semitism because you have no answer!

let me see if I understand this correctly. You are whining about Israelis watching the Gaza war from afar, when it is the Palestinians that you support who cheer, hand out candy and smile with glee whenever Hamas kills Israeli civilians??
Donyou not realize how stupid you are complaining about that?
BTW, care to show us a clip of Israelis cheering?

 

[Hossfly]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

The Chinese are not bombing civilians like animals while civlian Israelis were congregating and cheering as spectators like a Roman Coliseum battle feeding innocents to the Lions, all watching as bombs fell on Gaza and the killing was their entertainment!

Yea 'ol Hoss, blame it on anti-Semitism because you have no answer!

Nice try, Phillip, but since there are other forums here, I haven't seen you complaining about Syrian war planes bombing their own people. It is only where the Jews are concerned that you hop on the bandwagon like the anti-Semite you are. When Arabs kill Arabs, you have nothing to say. I think Phillip must have missed the news about the Chinese recently executing their own terrorists. The Chinese wouldn't have put up with terrorists like Hamas for very long.

 

[pbel]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

The Chinese are not bombing civilians like animals while civlian Israelis were congregating and cheering as spectators like a Roman Coliseum battle feeding innocents to the Lions, all watching as bombs fell on Gaza and the killing was their entertainment!

Yea 'ol Hoss, blame it on anti-Semitism because you have no answer!

Nice try, Phillip, but since there are other forums here, I haven't seen you complaining about Syrian war planes bombing their own people. It is only where the Jews are concerned that you hop on the bandwagon like the anti-Semite you are. When Arabs kill Arabs, you have nothing to say. I think Phillip must have missed the news about the Chinese recently executing their own terrorists. The Chinese wouldn't have put up with terrorists like Hamas for very long.

I do three Forums, Israel&Palestine, Art, and writing.

I just Luv this one!
Hossfly

He’d be coming
Down the mountain
If he could

But he fell asleep
In the outhouse
Sawing wood

Poor ‘ol Hossie
Drank too much
Hoochie

Now he’s snoring
On top of
Poopie

Or he’d be down
The mountain
Cutting wood!

 

[toastman]

BTW, the goods were still unloaded in Los Angeles.
Some 'victory'

 

[pbel]

BTW, the goods were still unloaded in Los Angeles.
Some 'victory'

All fires start with a small flame...It is growing before your very eyes...Think tomorrow...

 

[Hossfly]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

The Chinese are not bombing civilians like animals while civlian Israelis were congregating and cheering as spectators like a Roman Coliseum battle feeding innocents to the Lions, all watching as bombs fell on Gaza and the killing was their entertainment!

Yea 'ol Hoss, blame it on anti-Semitism because you have no answer!

Nice try, Phillip, but since there are other forums here, I haven't seen you complaining about Syrian war planes bombing their own people. It is only where the Jews are concerned that you hop on the bandwagon like the anti-Semite you are. When Arabs kill Arabs, you have nothing to say. I think Phillip must have missed the news about the Chinese recently executing their own terrorists. The Chinese wouldn't have put up with terrorists like Hamas for very long.

I do three Forums, Israel&Palestine, Art, and writing.

I just Luv this one!
Hossfly

He’d be coming
Down the mountain
If he could

But he fell asleep
In the outhouse
Sawing wood

Poor ‘ol Hossie
Drank too much
Hoochie

Now he’s snoring
On top of
Poopie

Or he’d be down
The mountain
Cutting wood!

AAARRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!

 

[Grendelyn]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

The Chinese are not bombing civilians like animals while civlian Israelis were congregating and cheering as spectators like a Roman Coliseum battle feeding innocents to the Lions, all watching as bombs fell on Gaza and the killing was their entertainment!

Yea 'ol Hoss, blame it on anti-Semitism because you have no answer!

let me see if I understand this correctly. You are whining about Israelis watching the Gaza war from afar, when it is the Palestinians that you support who cheer, hand out candy and smile with glee whenever Hamas kills Israeli civilians??
Donyou not realize how stupid you are complaining about that?
BTW, care to show us a clip of Israelis cheering?[/QUOTE]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

BTW, the goods were still unloaded in Los Angeles.
Some 'victory'

All fires start with a small flame...It is growing before your very eyes...Think tomorrow...

Idiots are good at setting themselves on fire.

 

[Grendelyn]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

The Chinese are not bombing civilians like animals while civlian Israelis were congregating and cheering as spectators like a Roman Coliseum battle feeding innocents to the Lions, all watching as bombs fell on Gaza and the killing was their entertainment!

Yea 'ol Hoss, blame it on anti-Semitism because you have no answer!

let me see if I understand this correctly. You are whining about Israelis watching the Gaza war from afar, when it is the Palestinians that you support who cheer, hand out candy and smile with glee whenever Hamas kills Israeli civilians??
Donyou not realize how stupid you are complaining about that?
BTW, care to show us a clip of Israelis cheering?

 

[toastman]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

The Chinese are not bombing civilians like animals while civlian Israelis were congregating and cheering as spectators like a Roman Coliseum battle feeding innocents to the Lions, all watching as bombs fell on Gaza and the killing was their entertainment!

Yea 'ol Hoss, blame it on anti-Semitism because you have no answer!

let me see if I understand this correctly. You are whining about Israelis watching the Gaza war from afar, when it is the Palestinians that you support who cheer, hand out candy and smile with glee whenever Hamas kills Israeli civilians??
Donyou not realize how stupid you are complaining about that?
BTW, care to show us a clip of Israelis cheering?[/QUOTE]

Uhh, so?? They're cheering thag their country is attacking their enemy, Hamas. Now show me a video of Israelis cheering and handing out candy after hearing thag Palestinian civilians were killed..like the evil Palestinians do.

 

[Hossfly]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

The Chinese are not bombing civilians like animals while civlian Israelis were congregating and cheering as spectators like a Roman Coliseum battle feeding innocents to the Lions, all watching as bombs fell on Gaza and the killing was their entertainment!

Yea 'ol Hoss, blame it on anti-Semitism because you have no answer!

let me see if I understand this correctly. You are whining about Israelis watching the Gaza war from afar, when it is the Palestinians that you support who cheer, hand out candy and smile with glee whenever Hamas kills Israeli civilians??
Donyou not realize how stupid you are complaining about that?
BTW, care to show us a clip of Israelis cheering?

That was me cheering. What's the big deal? Don't you root for your team?

 

[Hossfly]

If the results of a recent focus group and polls are any indication, support for Israel is weakening among young Americans. Polls conducted in late July by Gallup and the Pew Research Center found that support for Israel is weaker among younger Americans and Democrats than among Americans generally.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/203589/young-americans-moving-away-from-israel-support/#ixzz3EeuQkfca

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

The Chinese are not bombing civilians like animals while civlian Israelis were congregating and cheering as spectators like a Roman Coliseum battle feeding innocents to the Lions, all watching as bombs fell on Gaza and the killing was their entertainment!

Yea 'ol Hoss, blame it on anti-Semitism because you have no answer!

Nice try, Phillip, but since there are other forums here, I haven't seen you complaining about Syrian war planes bombing their own people. It is only where the Jews are concerned that you hop on the bandwagon like the anti-Semite you are. When Arabs kill Arabs, you have nothing to say. I think Phillip must have missed the news about the Chinese recently executing their own terrorists. The Chinese wouldn't have put up with terrorists like Hamas for very long.

I do three Forums, Israel&Palestine, Art, and writing.

I just Luv this one!
Hossfly

He’d be coming
Down the mountain
If he could

But he fell asleep
In the outhouse
Sawing wood

Poor ‘ol Hossie
Drank too much
Hoochie

Now he’s snoring
On top of
Poopie

Or he’d be down
The mountain
Cutting wood!

The nonsense you have just read from Phillip is why people involved on another discussion board thought that he needed therapy. It was a board discussing the Middle East, and yet Phillip had nothing to say about the Middle East even though a lot was going on there but to post his silly poems, his asinine essays, and drag out his coloring box. The viewers and posters on this forum who are not anti-Semitic like he is are probably wondering if his therapist will be able to ever help him. I think they are intelligent enough to realize that the reason he loves this forum is because he can get all his Jew hatred out.

 

[pbel]

BTW, the goods were still unloaded in Los Angeles.
Some 'victory'

All fires start with a small flame...It is growing before your very eyes...Think tomorrow...

Idiots are good at setting themselves on fire.

Really, how can you call Toast an idiot when you told him you were blood brothers?

Big shock, that.

Again, for the idiots in Hollywood who haven't long since noticed already:

IF YOU ARE JEWISH, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

You can just imagine how the Jew haters like Phillip salivate over that story about Israeli cargo ships. Does anyone think that Phillip and the rest of his Jew hating friends (including the Leftist Jews who poison the minds of the young in universities)) would ever stop a Chinese ship from docking even though China has horrible human rights abuses? Does Phillip and friends ever consider that China is occupying Tibet and how the Tibetan people are treated?

The Chinese are not bombing civilians like animals while civlian Israelis were congregating and cheering as spectators like a Roman Coliseum battle feeding innocents to the Lions, all watching as bombs fell on Gaza and the killing was their entertainment!

Yea 'ol Hoss, blame it on anti-Semitism because you have no answer!

Nice try, Phillip, but since there are other forums here, I haven't seen you complaining about Syrian war planes bombing their own people. It is only where the Jews are concerned that you hop on the bandwagon like the anti-Semite you are. When Arabs kill Arabs, you have nothing to say. I think Phillip must have missed the news about the Chinese recently executing their own terrorists. The Chinese wouldn't have put up with terrorists like Hamas for very long.

I do three Forums, Israel&Palestine, Art, and writing.

I just Luv this one!
Hossfly

He’d be coming
Down the mountain
If he could

But he fell asleep
In the outhouse
Sawing wood

Poor ‘ol Hossie
Drank too much
Hoochie

Now he’s snoring
On top of
Poopie

Or he’d be down
The mountain
Cutting wood!

The nonsense you have just read from Phillip is why people involved on another discussion board thought that he needed therapy. It was a board discussing the Middle East, and yet Phillip had nothing to say about the Middle East even though a lot was going on there but to post his silly poems, his asinine essays, and drag out his coloring box. The viewers and posters on this forum who are not anti-Semitic like he is are probably wondering if his therapist will be able to ever help him. I think they are intelligent enough to realize that the reason he loves this forum is because he can get all his Jew hatred out.

Well you say you're a "Ditto Head" on your Avatar, What could I possibly add to the logic of a hill-Billy brain?