Felon with illegal gun shoots thru a door, gets released on 500 dollars bond, why we have gun crime.

[2aguy]

Here you have a felon, with an illegal gun, shooting that gun, firing through a door, gets arrested and then released on 5,000 dollar bond, posting 500 dollars.........

This is why we have gun crime you anti-gun loons.........not because John and Jane citizen own an AR-15 rifle for sport and self defense....


Gunday: A look at how the courts are handling some recent weapons charges in Chicago

Near North incident


You may remember our Oct. 30 report about a Near North woman who called police because a man fired a shot through her door after she kicked him out of her apartment on the 700 block of North Dearborn.

The woman called police again early on Nov. 2 after she and her brother saw the alleged offender in the first block of West Huron.

Officers arrived and arrested 35-year-old Christopher Stanley after confirming that the victim identified him by name in her police report, according to court records. During a search, police allegedly found a handgun in Stanley’s possession.

Prosecutors charged Stanley with being a felon in possession of a firearm but not with the alleged shooting. Judge John Lyke set bail at $5,000 and Stanley went free by posting a $500 deposit bond.

In May 2002, prosecutors dropped four counts of attempted murder and four other felonies in a plea deal with Stanley. In exchange for pleading guilty to aggravated discharge of a firearm, Stanley received a sentence of eight years, court records show.


Then you have this.....a gun charge while on parole for an illegal gun charge....

Gun charge while on parole for a gun charge

A man who escaped an armed habitual criminal charge in a plea deal with prosecutors two years ago is now charged with being an armed habitual criminal again after police say they found him with a gun in Old Town.

Chervon Jackson, 31, was paroled in January after serving half of a four-year sentence that he received for unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon in 2017.

Then, on Nov. 3, police pulled over a car on the 1200 block of North Sedgwick because its plates were expired. Officers asked all of the vehicle’s occupants to step out of the car after the driver allegedly admitted that a drink container in the center console contained Hennessey cognac.

Seated in the passenger seat, Jackson made “furtive movements” and did not immediately step out of the car, police said. Once he was outside, police allegedly found a .45-caliber in his waistband.

Prosecutors charged him with Class X felony armed habitual criminal, felony unlawful use of a weapon, and misdemeanor obstruction of identification. In addition to the 2017 gun case, police say Jackson was also convicted of unlawful use of a weapon and burglary in 2004.

Judge Charles Beach ordered Jackson held without bail and the Illinois Department of Corrections issued a warrant for a parole violation, according to court records.

 

[Crixus]

Here you have a felon, with an illegal gun, shooting that gun, firing through a door, gets arrested and then released on 5,000 dollar bond, posting 500 dollars.........

This is why we have gun crime you anti-gun loons.........not because John and Jane citizen own an AR-15 rifle for sport and self defense....


Gunday: A look at how the courts are handling some recent weapons charges in Chicago

Near North incident


You may remember our Oct. 30 report about a Near North woman who called police because a man fired a shot through her door after she kicked him out of her apartment on the 700 block of North Dearborn.

The woman called police again early on Nov. 2 after she and her brother saw the alleged offender in the first block of West Huron.

Officers arrived and arrested 35-year-old Christopher Stanley after confirming that the victim identified him by name in her police report, according to court records. During a search, police allegedly found a handgun in Stanley’s possession.

Prosecutors charged Stanley with being a felon in possession of a firearm but not with the alleged shooting. Judge John Lyke set bail at $5,000 and Stanley went free by posting a $500 deposit bond.

In May 2002, prosecutors dropped four counts of attempted murder and four other felonies in a plea deal with Stanley. In exchange for pleading guilty to aggravated discharge of a firearm, Stanley received a sentence of eight years, court records show.


Then you have this.....a gun charge while on parole for an illegal gun charge....

Gun charge while on parole for a gun charge

A man who escaped an armed habitual criminal charge in a plea deal with prosecutors two years ago is now charged with being an armed habitual criminal again after police say they found him with a gun in Old Town.

Chervon Jackson, 31, was paroled in January after serving half of a four-year sentence that he received for unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon in 2017.

Then, on Nov. 3, police pulled over a car on the 1200 block of North Sedgwick because its plates were expired. Officers asked all of the vehicle’s occupants to step out of the car after the driver allegedly admitted that a drink container in the center console contained Hennessey cognac.

Seated in the passenger seat, Jackson made “furtive movements” and did not immediately step out of the car, police said. Once he was outside, police allegedly found a .45-caliber in his waistband.

Prosecutors charged him with Class X felony armed habitual criminal, felony unlawful use of a weapon, and misdemeanor obstruction of identification. In addition to the 2017 gun case, police say Jackson was also convicted of unlawful use of a weapon and burglary in 2004.

Judge Charles Beach ordered Jackson held without bail and the Illinois Department of Corrections issued a warrant for a parole violation, according to court records.

See I thought there were the "truth in sentencing laws" out there. Are those state by state? Take Texas as an excample. Say I am a felon and I get pulled over for speeding and the cop finds a gun in my car. From what I understand, if Texas drops the th charge the Feds have to prosecute for having the gun.

 

[2aguy]

Here you have a felon, with an illegal gun, shooting that gun, firing through a door, gets arrested and then released on 5,000 dollar bond, posting 500 dollars.........

This is why we have gun crime you anti-gun loons.........not because John and Jane citizen own an AR-15 rifle for sport and self defense....


Gunday: A look at how the courts are handling some recent weapons charges in Chicago

Near North incident


You may remember our Oct. 30 report about a Near North woman who called police because a man fired a shot through her door after she kicked him out of her apartment on the 700 block of North Dearborn.

The woman called police again early on Nov. 2 after she and her brother saw the alleged offender in the first block of West Huron.

Officers arrived and arrested 35-year-old Christopher Stanley after confirming that the victim identified him by name in her police report, according to court records. During a search, police allegedly found a handgun in Stanley’s possession.

Prosecutors charged Stanley with being a felon in possession of a firearm but not with the alleged shooting. Judge John Lyke set bail at $5,000 and Stanley went free by posting a $500 deposit bond.

In May 2002, prosecutors dropped four counts of attempted murder and four other felonies in a plea deal with Stanley. In exchange for pleading guilty to aggravated discharge of a firearm, Stanley received a sentence of eight years, court records show.


Then you have this.....a gun charge while on parole for an illegal gun charge....

Gun charge while on parole for a gun charge

A man who escaped an armed habitual criminal charge in a plea deal with prosecutors two years ago is now charged with being an armed habitual criminal again after police say they found him with a gun in Old Town.

Chervon Jackson, 31, was paroled in January after serving half of a four-year sentence that he received for unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon in 2017.

Then, on Nov. 3, police pulled over a car on the 1200 block of North Sedgwick because its plates were expired. Officers asked all of the vehicle’s occupants to step out of the car after the driver allegedly admitted that a drink container in the center console contained Hennessey cognac.

Seated in the passenger seat, Jackson made “furtive movements” and did not immediately step out of the car, police said. Once he was outside, police allegedly found a .45-caliber in his waistband.

Prosecutors charged him with Class X felony armed habitual criminal, felony unlawful use of a weapon, and misdemeanor obstruction of identification. In addition to the 2017 gun case, police say Jackson was also convicted of unlawful use of a weapon and burglary in 2004.

Judge Charles Beach ordered Jackson held without bail and the Illinois Department of Corrections issued a warrant for a parole violation, according to court records.

See I thought there were the "truth in sentencing laws" out there. Are those state by state? Take Texas as an excample. Say I am a felon and I get pulled over for speeding and the cop finds a gun in my car. From what I understand, if Texas drops the th charge the Feds have to prosecute for having the gun.

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

 

[Crixus]

Here you have a felon, with an illegal gun, shooting that gun, firing through a door, gets arrested and then released on 5,000 dollar bond, posting 500 dollars.........

This is why we have gun crime you anti-gun loons.........not because John and Jane citizen own an AR-15 rifle for sport and self defense....


Gunday: A look at how the courts are handling some recent weapons charges in Chicago

Near North incident


You may remember our Oct. 30 report about a Near North woman who called police because a man fired a shot through her door after she kicked him out of her apartment on the 700 block of North Dearborn.

The woman called police again early on Nov. 2 after she and her brother saw the alleged offender in the first block of West Huron.

Officers arrived and arrested 35-year-old Christopher Stanley after confirming that the victim identified him by name in her police report, according to court records. During a search, police allegedly found a handgun in Stanley’s possession.

Prosecutors charged Stanley with being a felon in possession of a firearm but not with the alleged shooting. Judge John Lyke set bail at $5,000 and Stanley went free by posting a $500 deposit bond.

In May 2002, prosecutors dropped four counts of attempted murder and four other felonies in a plea deal with Stanley. In exchange for pleading guilty to aggravated discharge of a firearm, Stanley received a sentence of eight years, court records show.


Then you have this.....a gun charge while on parole for an illegal gun charge....

Gun charge while on parole for a gun charge

A man who escaped an armed habitual criminal charge in a plea deal with prosecutors two years ago is now charged with being an armed habitual criminal again after police say they found him with a gun in Old Town.

Chervon Jackson, 31, was paroled in January after serving half of a four-year sentence that he received for unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon in 2017.

Then, on Nov. 3, police pulled over a car on the 1200 block of North Sedgwick because its plates were expired. Officers asked all of the vehicle’s occupants to step out of the car after the driver allegedly admitted that a drink container in the center console contained Hennessey cognac.

Seated in the passenger seat, Jackson made “furtive movements” and did not immediately step out of the car, police said. Once he was outside, police allegedly found a .45-caliber in his waistband.

Prosecutors charged him with Class X felony armed habitual criminal, felony unlawful use of a weapon, and misdemeanor obstruction of identification. In addition to the 2017 gun case, police say Jackson was also convicted of unlawful use of a weapon and burglary in 2004.

Judge Charles Beach ordered Jackson held without bail and the Illinois Department of Corrections issued a warrant for a parole violation, according to court records.

See I thought there were the "truth in sentencing laws" out there. Are those state by state? Take Texas as an excample. Say I am a felon and I get pulled over for speeding and the cop finds a gun in my car. From what I understand, if Texas drops the th charge the Feds have to prosecute for having the gun.

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

See, I thought they already did that.

 

[2aguy]

Here you have a felon, with an illegal gun, shooting that gun, firing through a door, gets arrested and then released on 5,000 dollar bond, posting 500 dollars.........

This is why we have gun crime you anti-gun loons.........not because John and Jane citizen own an AR-15 rifle for sport and self defense....


Gunday: A look at how the courts are handling some recent weapons charges in Chicago

Near North incident


You may remember our Oct. 30 report about a Near North woman who called police because a man fired a shot through her door after she kicked him out of her apartment on the 700 block of North Dearborn.

The woman called police again early on Nov. 2 after she and her brother saw the alleged offender in the first block of West Huron.

Officers arrived and arrested 35-year-old Christopher Stanley after confirming that the victim identified him by name in her police report, according to court records. During a search, police allegedly found a handgun in Stanley’s possession.

Prosecutors charged Stanley with being a felon in possession of a firearm but not with the alleged shooting. Judge John Lyke set bail at $5,000 and Stanley went free by posting a $500 deposit bond.

In May 2002, prosecutors dropped four counts of attempted murder and four other felonies in a plea deal with Stanley. In exchange for pleading guilty to aggravated discharge of a firearm, Stanley received a sentence of eight years, court records show.


Then you have this.....a gun charge while on parole for an illegal gun charge....

Gun charge while on parole for a gun charge

A man who escaped an armed habitual criminal charge in a plea deal with prosecutors two years ago is now charged with being an armed habitual criminal again after police say they found him with a gun in Old Town.

Chervon Jackson, 31, was paroled in January after serving half of a four-year sentence that he received for unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon in 2017.

Then, on Nov. 3, police pulled over a car on the 1200 block of North Sedgwick because its plates were expired. Officers asked all of the vehicle’s occupants to step out of the car after the driver allegedly admitted that a drink container in the center console contained Hennessey cognac.

Seated in the passenger seat, Jackson made “furtive movements” and did not immediately step out of the car, police said. Once he was outside, police allegedly found a .45-caliber in his waistband.

Prosecutors charged him with Class X felony armed habitual criminal, felony unlawful use of a weapon, and misdemeanor obstruction of identification. In addition to the 2017 gun case, police say Jackson was also convicted of unlawful use of a weapon and burglary in 2004.

Judge Charles Beach ordered Jackson held without bail and the Illinois Department of Corrections issued a warrant for a parole violation, according to court records.

See I thought there were the "truth in sentencing laws" out there. Are those state by state? Take Texas as an excample. Say I am a felon and I get pulled over for speeding and the cop finds a gun in my car. From what I understand, if Texas drops the th charge the Feds have to prosecute for having the gun.

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

See, I thought they already did that.

With all of their bitching about gun crime, you would think democrats would be the ones keeping violent gun offenders in jail and prison....but the exact opposite is true. The democrats are the ones who fuel gun violence in this country with their catch and release policy for violent gun offenders....

 

[Crixus]

Here you have a felon, with an illegal gun, shooting that gun, firing through a door, gets arrested and then released on 5,000 dollar bond, posting 500 dollars.........

This is why we have gun crime you anti-gun loons.........not because John and Jane citizen own an AR-15 rifle for sport and self defense....


Gunday: A look at how the courts are handling some recent weapons charges in Chicago

Near North incident


You may remember our Oct. 30 report about a Near North woman who called police because a man fired a shot through her door after she kicked him out of her apartment on the 700 block of North Dearborn.

The woman called police again early on Nov. 2 after she and her brother saw the alleged offender in the first block of West Huron.

Officers arrived and arrested 35-year-old Christopher Stanley after confirming that the victim identified him by name in her police report, according to court records. During a search, police allegedly found a handgun in Stanley’s possession.

Prosecutors charged Stanley with being a felon in possession of a firearm but not with the alleged shooting. Judge John Lyke set bail at $5,000 and Stanley went free by posting a $500 deposit bond.

In May 2002, prosecutors dropped four counts of attempted murder and four other felonies in a plea deal with Stanley. In exchange for pleading guilty to aggravated discharge of a firearm, Stanley received a sentence of eight years, court records show.


Then you have this.....a gun charge while on parole for an illegal gun charge....

Gun charge while on parole for a gun charge

A man who escaped an armed habitual criminal charge in a plea deal with prosecutors two years ago is now charged with being an armed habitual criminal again after police say they found him with a gun in Old Town.

Chervon Jackson, 31, was paroled in January after serving half of a four-year sentence that he received for unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon in 2017.

Then, on Nov. 3, police pulled over a car on the 1200 block of North Sedgwick because its plates were expired. Officers asked all of the vehicle’s occupants to step out of the car after the driver allegedly admitted that a drink container in the center console contained Hennessey cognac.

Seated in the passenger seat, Jackson made “furtive movements” and did not immediately step out of the car, police said. Once he was outside, police allegedly found a .45-caliber in his waistband.

Prosecutors charged him with Class X felony armed habitual criminal, felony unlawful use of a weapon, and misdemeanor obstruction of identification. In addition to the 2017 gun case, police say Jackson was also convicted of unlawful use of a weapon and burglary in 2004.

Judge Charles Beach ordered Jackson held without bail and the Illinois Department of Corrections issued a warrant for a parole violation, according to court records.

See I thought there were the "truth in sentencing laws" out there. Are those state by state? Take Texas as an excample. Say I am a felon and I get pulled over for speeding and the cop finds a gun in my car. From what I understand, if Texas drops the th charge the Feds have to prosecute for having the gun.

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

See, I thought they already did that.

With all of their bitching about gun crime, you would think democrats would be the ones keeping violent gun offenders in jail and prison....but the exact opposite is true. The democrats are the ones who fuel gun violence in this country with their catch and release policy for violent gun offenders....

Agree, but I thought it was the law that Feds had to prosecute felons in possession of a gun. If that's the case, how is it they aren't? Do they decline to prosicute?

 

[2aguy]

Here you have a felon, with an illegal gun, shooting that gun, firing through a door, gets arrested and then released on 5,000 dollar bond, posting 500 dollars.........

This is why we have gun crime you anti-gun loons.........not because John and Jane citizen own an AR-15 rifle for sport and self defense....


Gunday: A look at how the courts are handling some recent weapons charges in Chicago

Near North incident


You may remember our Oct. 30 report about a Near North woman who called police because a man fired a shot through her door after she kicked him out of her apartment on the 700 block of North Dearborn.

The woman called police again early on Nov. 2 after she and her brother saw the alleged offender in the first block of West Huron.

Officers arrived and arrested 35-year-old Christopher Stanley after confirming that the victim identified him by name in her police report, according to court records. During a search, police allegedly found a handgun in Stanley’s possession.

Prosecutors charged Stanley with being a felon in possession of a firearm but not with the alleged shooting. Judge John Lyke set bail at $5,000 and Stanley went free by posting a $500 deposit bond.

In May 2002, prosecutors dropped four counts of attempted murder and four other felonies in a plea deal with Stanley. In exchange for pleading guilty to aggravated discharge of a firearm, Stanley received a sentence of eight years, court records show.


Then you have this.....a gun charge while on parole for an illegal gun charge....

Gun charge while on parole for a gun charge

A man who escaped an armed habitual criminal charge in a plea deal with prosecutors two years ago is now charged with being an armed habitual criminal again after police say they found him with a gun in Old Town.

Chervon Jackson, 31, was paroled in January after serving half of a four-year sentence that he received for unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon in 2017.

Then, on Nov. 3, police pulled over a car on the 1200 block of North Sedgwick because its plates were expired. Officers asked all of the vehicle’s occupants to step out of the car after the driver allegedly admitted that a drink container in the center console contained Hennessey cognac.

Seated in the passenger seat, Jackson made “furtive movements” and did not immediately step out of the car, police said. Once he was outside, police allegedly found a .45-caliber in his waistband.

Prosecutors charged him with Class X felony armed habitual criminal, felony unlawful use of a weapon, and misdemeanor obstruction of identification. In addition to the 2017 gun case, police say Jackson was also convicted of unlawful use of a weapon and burglary in 2004.

Judge Charles Beach ordered Jackson held without bail and the Illinois Department of Corrections issued a warrant for a parole violation, according to court records.

See I thought there were the "truth in sentencing laws" out there. Are those state by state? Take Texas as an excample. Say I am a felon and I get pulled over for speeding and the cop finds a gun in my car. From what I understand, if Texas drops the th charge the Feds have to prosecute for having the gun.

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

See, I thought they already did that.

With all of their bitching about gun crime, you would think democrats would be the ones keeping violent gun offenders in jail and prison....but the exact opposite is true. The democrats are the ones who fuel gun violence in this country with their catch and release policy for violent gun offenders....

Agree, but I thought it was the law that Feds had to prosecute felons in possession of a gun. If that's the case, how is it they aren't? Do they decline to prosicute?

Obama refused to prosecute gun cases at the Federal level....meanwhile, federal gun charge prosecution is up under Trump...

 

[Crixus]

See I thought there were the "truth in sentencing laws" out there. Are those state by state? Take Texas as an excample. Say I am a felon and I get pulled over for speeding and the cop finds a gun in my car. From what I understand, if Texas drops the th charge the Feds have to prosecute for having the gun.

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
Mass shooters

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....
What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

See, I thought they already did that.

With all of their bitching about gun crime, you would think democrats would be the ones keeping violent gun offenders in jail and prison....but the exact opposite is true. The democrats are the ones who fuel gun violence in this country with their catch and release policy for violent gun offenders....

Agree, but I thought it was the law that Feds had to prosecute felons in possession of a gun. If that's the case, how is it they aren't? Do they decline to prosicute?

Obama refused to prosecute gun cases at the Federal level....meanwhile, federal gun charge prosecution is up under Trump...

Good deal then.

 

[Rigby5]

Obama refused to prosecute gun cases at the Federal level....meanwhile, federal gun charge prosecution is up under Trump...

No, it is according to the Constitution that the federal government has no jurisdiction over firearm cases.
Since what is a felony differs by state, it would be illegal for the federal government to prosecute firearm possession based on differing state felonies.

 

[Abatis]

No, it is according to the Constitution that the federal government has no jurisdiction over firearm cases.
Since what is a felony differs by state, it would be illegal for the federal government to prosecute firearm possession based on differing state felonies.

Why do you feel compelled to pontificate when you know nothing of what you speak?

Your theory dismantles the federal government's claim of any authority to make any federal law on guns, like requiring a 4473.

If you were correct then the Lautenberg Amendment of the GCA-68, making domestic "violence" misdemeanors a criteria for federal firearm prohibition, (18 U. S. C. §922(g)(9)
), would be unconstitutional because not every state misdemeanor conviction for "domestic violence" has a “use or attempted use of physical force,” component.

Go read United States v. Castleman, 572 U.S. 157 (2014) to see how that turns out . . .

 

[pknopp]

No one in the Sackler family had to put up a single dollar for a bond. Not a one was fingerprinted. This despite the massive damage they did to people and the country.

This is why we will continue to have more of this type of crime.

 

[Rigby5]

Why do you feel compelled to pontificate when you know nothing of what you speak?

Your theory dismantles the federal government's claim of any authority to make any federal law on guns, like requiring a 4473.

If you were correct then the Lautenberg Amendment of the GCA-68, making domestic "violence" misdemeanors a criteria for federal firearm prohibition, (18 U. S. C. §922(g)(9)
), would be unconstitutional because not every state misdemeanor conviction for "domestic violence" has a “use or attempted use of physical force,” component.

Go read United States v. Castleman, 572 U.S. 157 (2014) to see how that turns out . . .

It is simple and obvious constitutional law, that there really cannot be any federal gun laws.
Why do you think there was not a single federal gun law until 1937?
And the main purpose of that law was to regulate the WWI surplus Thompson machineguns that were being sold mail order for $27, during Prohibition.
So then YES, clearly any and all federal gun laws ARE illegal.
So then why do they exist?
Because people like the uniformity of federal regulation over the patchwork you would have otherwise.
And this is true of more than guns.
The federal War on Drugs, the FDA, 3 strikes sentence mandates, asset forfeiture, OSHA, and many federal laws are completely illegal but still popular.

I suggest you read the 9th and 10th amendments of the Bill of Rights again.
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Ninth Amendment​

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.[95]

Tenth Amendment​

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.[95]

...}

The feds can only legally do what they are explicitly authorized to do by the Constitution.
This implied nonsense, like the commerce clause and the domestic tranquility preamble, are not legal.

The legal way to have uniformity is like the way we do speed limits and traffic rules.
We do not legislate on the federal level, but instead bribe states into compliance voluntarily, with funding.
Very simple and legal.
Federal laws are inherently much worse because they have less popular oversight, are more bureaucratic, duplicate judicial and penal services, cause incarceration in distant states, make defense more expensive, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

No one in the Sackler family had to put up a single dollar for a bond. Not a one was fingerprinted. This despite the massive damage they did to people and the country.

This is why we will continue to have more of this type of crime.

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The Sackler cartel are descendants of Isaac Sackler and his wife Sophie (née Greenberg), Jewish immigrants to the United States from Galicia (now Ukraine) and Poland,[citation needed] who established a grocery business in Brooklyn. The couple had three sons, Arthur, Mortimer, and Raymond Sackler who all went to medical school and became psychiatrists. They were often cited as early pioneers in medication techniques which ended the common practice of lobotomies, and were also regarded as the first to fight for the racial integration of blood banks.[5] In 1952, the brothers bought a small pharmaceutical company, Purdue-Frederick.[6] Raymond and Mortimer ran Purdue, while Arthur, the oldest brother, became a pioneer in medical advertising and one of the foremost art collectors of his generation. He also donated the majority of his collections to museums around the world. After his death in 1987, his option on one third of that company was sold by his estate to his two brothers who turned it into Purdue Pharma.[7]

In 1996, Purdue Pharma introduced OxyContin, a version of oxycodone reformulated in a slow-release form. It was invented 1916 and sold as Eukodal. It was withdrawn from the Market in 1990 due to addiction issues.

Heavily promoted,[8][9] oxycodone is a key drug in the emergence of the opioid epidemic.[10][11] Elizabeth Sackler, daughter of Arthur Sackler, claimed that her branch of the family did not participate in or benefit from the sales of narcotics. While some[who?] have criticized Arthur Sackler for pioneering marketing techniques to promote non-opioids decades earlier, Professor Evan Gertsman said in Forbes magazine, "It is an absurd inversion of logic to say that because Arthur Sackler pioneered direct marketing to physicians, he is responsible for the fraudulent misuse of that technique, which occurred many years after his death and from which he procured no financial gain."[12][13][14] In 2018, multiple members of the Raymond and Mortimer Sackler families, Richard Sackler, Theresa Sackler, Kathe Sackler, Jonathan Sackler, Mortimer Sackler, Beverly Sackler, David Sackler, and Ilene Sackler, were all named as defendants in suits filed by numerous states over their involvement in the opioid crisis.[15][16]

The family was first listed in Forbes list of America's Richest Families in 2015.[17]

The Sackler family is also the owner of Mundipharma, a lower profile pharma company that has significant operations in China. Bloomberg News reported in 2020 that the family had hired an investment bank to identify a potential buyer of the business.[18] The company could fetch as much as $3 to $5 billion.[19]
...}