Feeling the Bern?

I love Bernie Sanders, I'm just not sure how effective he would be. You cannot change decades of oligarchy simply by talking loudly. He does come with less baggage though.

Effective in what way?

I think having an honest voice and watchdog in the oval office will be extremely effective. He can use his loud voice and his White House pulpit to educate the people. Hey ... this is what your congressional representatives want to do with your tax dollars or with a proposed bill ... do you agree with that or not? Here's why I believe it is a good or bad plan ... etc... He can encourage the people to put pressure on their elected representatives to actually do the jobs they were elected to do ... or be replaced in the next election. I think electing Bernie Sanders is a first step in the right direction.

He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.

Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.


Just curious, di you vote for McCain in the 2000, or 2008, primary?

Because he reached across the aisle far more than Bernie has

I liked McCain. I happened to like Obama better.

That was even before Sarah OMG Palin.
 
He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.

Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.


30+ years taking public pay. Name one accomplishment in 30 years. Not only him, many of them. He has been there for most of $19T debt, don't know that he stopped a dollar of it? Wants more GOVT before fixing the bad parts. I get more upset as I think about it. Like giving money to Junkies.
 
For starters, the extreme right wing brand of nationalism is downright scary. I have no interest in nationalism and scapegoating migrants.

It doesn't surprise me that the idea of actually being required to show loyalty to the nation which is your home would be scary to the supporter of a candidate whose theme song should be "Imagine" by John Lennon (another Communist, like Mr Sanders).

Nationalism isn't about scapegoating immigrants, because in a properly Nationalist and Isolationist nation THERE ARE NO IMMIGRANTS. Which also means there are less theiving hands stealing money out of my paycheck every week to support them, and more jobs for us to tell the rest of the Welfare State to either... "Take the job, or lose your benefits."
You managed to get it wrong on Sanders and right on Nationalist etc.
 
So did you give him 10 more dollars? Makes me feel bad for the broke college kids using their lunch money for a socialist agenda. The democratic party...

LOL

NO, I gave him much more than that ...

Do you feel better when the richest people in the world are funding your candidate's campaign in exchange for corporate welfare and socialism? just asking ....

Oh I'm supporting Trump. Think you should ask Jeb supporters that question, big guy.
 
I love Bernie Sanders, I'm just not sure how effective he would be. You cannot change decades of oligarchy simply by talking loudly. He does come with less baggage though.

Effective in what way?

I think having an honest voice and watchdog in the oval office will be extremely effective. He can use his loud voice and his White House pulpit to educate the people. Hey ... this is what your congressional representatives want to do with your tax dollars or with a proposed bill ... do you agree with that or not? Here's why I believe it is a good or bad plan ... etc... He can encourage the people to put pressure on their elected representatives to actually do the jobs they were elected to do ... or be replaced in the next election. I think electing Bernie Sanders is a first step in the right direction.

He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.

Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.


Just curious, di you vote for McCain in the 2000, or 2008, primary?

Because he reached across the aisle far more than Bernie has

I liked McCain. I happened to like Obama better.

That was even before Sarah OMG Palin.


Let me guess...

the D behind his name?
 
I may vote for OLD BERNIE (if he lives long enough to get to NOV) just to get this GOVT collapse over with. He is the fastest ticket to the end. Then we can get on with either revolution or repair in 4 yrs.

Economy bad, jobs leaving, low pay. Bernie solution, TAX them 70% so they will stay here and build TV.
 
I love Bernie Sanders, I'm just not sure how effective he would be. You cannot change decades of oligarchy simply by talking loudly. He does come with less baggage though.

Effective in what way?

I think having an honest voice and watchdog in the oval office will be extremely effective. He can use his loud voice and his White House pulpit to educate the people. Hey ... this is what your congressional representatives want to do with your tax dollars or with a proposed bill ... do you agree with that or not? Here's why I believe it is a good or bad plan ... etc... He can encourage the people to put pressure on their elected representatives to actually do the jobs they were elected to do ... or be replaced in the next election. I think electing Bernie Sanders is a first step in the right direction.


Yes, I definitely want someone honest in the White House. I need to work on being more optimistic I suppose. His message is great, and it's good that people are hearing it. I just think the deck is stacked against him. I prefer him over Hillary, but I just don't know if he can win.
 
He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.

Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.


30+ years taking public pay. Name one accomplishment in 30 years. Not only him, many of them. He has been there for most of $19T debt, don't know that he stopped a dollar of it? Wants more GOVT before fixing the bad parts. I get more upset as I think about it. Like giving money to Junkies.

Kindly list all the members of Congress who work for free. Then read and learn:

Bernard Sanders
 
First they moved the jobs overseas, which they argued they deserved a tax cut because they were supplying the society with

Then they messed with peoples 401K and bailed their asses on it



This thing, whatever it is, is not about Bernie, or the fact that he is a socialist, or an old guy, none of this matters...

This is whole things is all about the mid class, who normally would vote with the rich of this country, but their conditions have declined rapidly in the last decade, and they think billionaires are the responsible ones, and they are now looking for VENGEANCE...

This is a solid message from the mid class, and nothing to be taken lightly...

 
I've been a Sanders supporter since he announced he was running for any number of Real Life reasons. The double-plus-good part is discovering how many message board denizens are scared of a word they don't understand and don't want to understand.

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I love Bernie Sanders, I'm just not sure how effective he would be. You cannot change decades of oligarchy simply by talking loudly. He does come with less baggage though.

Effective in what way?

I think having an honest voice and watchdog in the oval office will be extremely effective. He can use his loud voice and his White House pulpit to educate the people. Hey ... this is what your congressional representatives want to do with your tax dollars or with a proposed bill ... do you agree with that or not? Here's why I believe it is a good or bad plan ... etc... He can encourage the people to put pressure on their elected representatives to actually do the jobs they were elected to do ... or be replaced in the next election. I think electing Bernie Sanders is a first step in the right direction.

He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.

Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.


Just curious, di you vote for McCain in the 2000, or 2008, primary?

Because he reached across the aisle far more than Bernie has

I liked McCain. I happened to like Obama better.

That was even before Sarah OMG Palin.


Let me guess...

the D behind his name?

No.

As a lifelong unaffiliated voter, I've never been much impressed with the initial after a candidate's name.

McCain's ability to work with both sides of the aisle was only one factor in my decision-making process. And letting himself be talked into picking Caribou Barbie as his running mate showed a distinct lack of judgment and fortitude.
 
You managed to get it wrong on Sanders.......

What did I get wrong about Sanders? This is a guy who wants the Government to control/oversee just about every aspect of the country, and my life instead of allowing me to make my own decisions. He's closer to Josef Stalin than George Washington, philosophically. That's Socialism bordering on Communism so far as I'm concerned.
 
Feel the Bern? Ugh.

If that derfwad gets elected, every working person will feel the burn and it won't be good.
 
Feeling the Bern? I am. I even contributed money to his campaign. I've never done that before. Not even for Obama even though I truly hoped he would be the harbinger of change. I'm disappointed.

Here's a good reason why I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States:

Don't complain about money in politics, and never complain about lying politicians if Bernie Sanders isn't our next president. You have your chance to elect an honest, fearless candidate for president, and if you choose the wrong person, simply don't complain when the next financial collapse costs you a business, or your house.

Source: If Hillary Clinton Isn't Influenced by Wall Street Cash, Then Why Overturn Citizens United?

I'm not going to settle for Hillary.

Bernie Sanders has gained a lot of popularity by proposing what strategists may call “real change” ideas. It’s not just about maintaining the status quo, but fighting Wall Street for their damages on the economy, fighting for healthcare as a human right, and fighting for every kid to be given a chance at a college education. Clinton’s ad seems to suggest that all this “real change” is too idealistic, which may hold some truth.

However, by outright using that as a reason to support her, what Clinton’s ultimately saying is: “real change is impossible, so settle for me.” Not the best motivation speech.

Source: Hillary Clinton Says "No We Can't"

Ugh. If Hillary is the candidate, I won't vote.

I don't want any of those crazy Republican candidates anywhere near the White House (and all of them are many times worse than G.W. Bush).

Are you tired of candidates saying what you want to hear to get your vote, and then forgetting about you until the next time they want your vote? I am. We're heading toward another major collapse and the billionaires will have enough money to buy up everything the rest of us lose. We have a corporate congress ... and other corporate cronies running our country for the benefit of the top one percent. Outrageous.

Do you feel the Bern? why or why not?

Bernie is a socialist kook. Being honest doesn't makeup for the fact that his policies would destroy this country.
 
Effective in what way?

I think having an honest voice and watchdog in the oval office will be extremely effective. He can use his loud voice and his White House pulpit to educate the people. Hey ... this is what your congressional representatives want to do with your tax dollars or with a proposed bill ... do you agree with that or not? Here's why I believe it is a good or bad plan ... etc... He can encourage the people to put pressure on their elected representatives to actually do the jobs they were elected to do ... or be replaced in the next election. I think electing Bernie Sanders is a first step in the right direction.

He also has 30+ years of negotiating across the aisle and getting things done. He knows these people, knows their strengths and weaknesses, knows how they can be brought around.

Too many RWs believe "compromise" means "I get what I want and fuck you!" Linguistics again.


Just curious, di you vote for McCain in the 2000, or 2008, primary?

Because he reached across the aisle far more than Bernie has

I liked McCain. I happened to like Obama better.

That was even before Sarah OMG Palin.


Let me guess...

the D behind his name?

No.

As a lifelong unaffiliated voter, I've never been much impressed with the initial after a candidate's name.

McCain's ability to work with both sides of the aisle was only one factor in my decision-making process. And letting himself be talked into picking Caribou Barbie as his running mate showed a distinct lack of judgment and fortitude.


Caribou Barbie didn't show til the convention, and most, if not all, primaries were finished.
 
Feeling the Bern? I am. I even contributed money to his campaign. I've never done that before. Not even for Obama even though I truly hoped he would be the harbinger of change. I'm disappointed.

Here's a good reason why I support Bernie Sanders for President of the United States:

Don't complain about money in politics, and never complain about lying politicians if Bernie Sanders isn't our next president. You have your chance to elect an honest, fearless candidate for president, and if you choose the wrong person, simply don't complain when the next financial collapse costs you a business, or your house.

Source: If Hillary Clinton Isn't Influenced by Wall Street Cash, Then Why Overturn Citizens United?

I'm not going to settle for Hillary.

Bernie Sanders has gained a lot of popularity by proposing what strategists may call “real change” ideas. It’s not just about maintaining the status quo, but fighting Wall Street for their damages on the economy, fighting for healthcare as a human right, and fighting for every kid to be given a chance at a college education. Clinton’s ad seems to suggest that all this “real change” is too idealistic, which may hold some truth.

However, by outright using that as a reason to support her, what Clinton’s ultimately saying is: “real change is impossible, so settle for me.” Not the best motivation speech.

Source: Hillary Clinton Says "No We Can't"

Ugh. If Hillary is the candidate, I won't vote.

I don't want any of those crazy Republican candidates anywhere near the White House (and all of them are many times worse than G.W. Bush).

Are you tired of candidates saying what you want to hear to get your vote, and then forgetting about you until the next time they want your vote? I am. We're heading toward another major collapse and the billionaires will have enough money to buy up everything the rest of us lose. We have a corporate congress ... and other corporate cronies running our country for the benefit of the top one percent. Outrageous.

Do you feel the Bern? why or why not?

I've been a Sanders supporter since he announced he was running for any number of Real Life reasons. The double-plus-good part is discovering how many message board denizens are scared of a word they don't understand and don't want to understand.

We understand exactly what socialism is, despite the constant lies of sleazy propagandists like you.
 
For starters, the extreme right wing brand of nationalism is downright scary. I have no interest in nationalism and scapegoating migrants.

It doesn't surprise me that the idea of actually being required to show loyalty to the nation which is your home would be scary to the supporter of a candidate whose theme song should be "Imagine" by John Lennon (another Communist, like Mr Sanders).

Nationalism isn't about scapegoating immigrants, because in a properly Nationalist and Isolationist nation THERE ARE NO IMMIGRANTS. Which also means there are less theiving hands stealing money out of my paycheck every week to support them, and more jobs for us to tell the rest of the Welfare State to either... "Take the job, or lose your benefits."



I rest my case.
 

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