Feds start fight with American Patriots in Oregon

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  1. Skylar
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    Per the Sovereign Citizen argument, any action they take is legal. As they make up the law. Each citizen can intepret the constitution in any manner they see fit.

    Which is why,despite empty lip service about 'state and local control', when the Governor of Oregon, the County Sheriff, the local mayor, the people, and even the local tribes all asked the 'militia' to leave......they told them all to go fuck themselves.

    As the only law they recognize is themselves.
     
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    Or it could be they're just throwing a tantrum because the gubmint won't give them even more vast amounts of free stuff.

    Yep, that's it.

    Needless to say, your "I can take all the free stuff I want at gunpoint" POV is not resonating with most Americans.
     
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    • New Hampshire's constitution[33] guarantees its citizens the right to reform government, in Article 10 of the New Hampshire constitution's Bill of Rights:
      Whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may, and of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new government. The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
    • The Kentucky constitution[34] also guarantees a right to alter, reform or abolish their government in the Kentucky Bill of Rights:
      All power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority and instituted for their peace, safety, happiness and the protection of property. For the advancement of these ends, they have at all times an inalienable and indefeasible right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may deem proper.
    • Similar wording is used in Pennsylvania's constitution,[35] under Article 1, Section 2 of the Declaration of Rights:
      All power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority and instituted for their peace, safety and happiness. For the advancement of these ends they have at all times an inalienable and indefeasible right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think proper.
    • Article I, ยง2 of the Tennessee constitution[36] states:
      That government being instituted for the common benefit, the doctrine of non-resistance against arbitrary power and oppression is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
    • North Carolina's constitution of November 21, 1789 also contains in its Declaration of Rights:[37]
      3d. That Government ought to be instituted for the common benefit, protection and security of the people; and that the doctrine of non-resistance against arbitrary power and oppression is absurd, slavish, and destructive to the good and happiness of mankind.
    • The Constitution of Texas[38] also contains similar wording in Article 1, Sect 2:
      All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.

      State Constitutions say we can do whatever MUST BE DONE
     
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    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

    Part of the declaration of independence. Legal doesn't work. Unless you are EXTREMELY rich.
     
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    Silly ass, try that with guns, and you face the guns of those that don't agree with you. Which is the vast majority. And the patience of that majority is wearing real thin with the assholes that are trying to create Syria right here in the US. Finicum was treasonous scum, and earned exactly with he got.
     
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    So you are one who believes the old "might makes right" BS. Lots of folks don't. The people who made this country certainly didn't and the problem with that philosophy is that you need to be very very sure you know might when you see it. I don't think you do.
     
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    The vast majority didn't think that the American colonies should be independent.

    Some of the settlers didn't recognize any government at all.
     
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    Personally, I am sick of my government slowly but surely tearing down and ignoring the bill of rights/constitution.
     
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    those are interesting pictures

    thanks for proving more evidence
     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Take note, folks: this is coming from the guy who initially denied there was a video at all.
     

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