Federal Tax Increase on Cigarettes

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    Federal tax on cigarettes increasing 62 cents
    Anti-tobacco advocates welcome hike of nearly 62 cents; smokers irked
    By Shari Rudavsky
    Posted: March 12, 2009Read Comments(179)Recommend (1)E-mail Print Share Del.icio.us Digg Reddit Yahoo Google A A Smokers looking for another incentive to quit just received about 62 cents' worth of one: the increase in the federal tax on cigarettes.

    In Indiana, about $1 in federal tax will combine with the state's 99.5-cent tax to bring the average cost of a pack of cigarettes to near $5 by April 1.



    Anti-tobacco advocates welcome the increase, saying it will likely lead to a further reduction in cigarette sales.

    "Any time that there's an increase in the price of tobacco at the retail level, that translates to people trying to quit," said Karla Sneegas, executive director of Indiana Tobacco Prevention and Cessation. "Everyone is definitely watching their costs very closely, and this is a great way to save money for your family."

    Ten months after a state tax increase, Indiana saw cigarette sales decline by 17.8 percent.

    The 61.66-cent federal cigarette tax increase could lead to 27,600 fewer adult smokers in Indiana, according to an estimate from the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids.

    Not only will the increase persuade smokers to quit, it also may prevent youths from picking up the habit, said Liza Sumpter, tobacco control program manager for the Marion County Health Department.

    Unlike other cigarette tax hikes, this one includes increases for other tobacco products, including "little cigars" or "brown cigarettes," frequent substitutions for cigarettes, Sneegas said.

    "We were encouraged to see that, because when you increase one product . . . you don't want to drive people to another tobacco product," she said.

    At the Puff & Chew on Indianapolis' Eastside, Sondra Cooper already has seen a decline in business. The price for a carton of Marlboros at her store recently rose from $39.99 to $47.

    Federal tax on cigarettes increasing 62 cents | IndyStar.com | The Indianapolis Star

    Since Government has deemed it necessary to tax the hell out of tobacco, I want to know when it will start taxing the hell out of unhealthy food. Obesity is a much bigger problem and is adding much more to our healthcare costs than tobacco. So when the hell are they going to start adding a $4 tax to every fast food meal? When are they going to place a $1 tax on every candy bar?

    I don't eat junk food. I rarely eat fast food. But I do smoke. I want to know when all the fatass slobs will have to pay their fair share. Big Brother is there to help us all quit smoking by taxing the hell out of tobacco; so when is Big Brother going to start taxing the fat asses?

    I propose that all Frito Lay products be taxed $2. Krispy Creme Donuts should be taxed $1 each. All meals from McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, Taco Bell, KFC, and any other fast food joint should be taxed $4. Oh, and that Bloomin Onion from The Outback should be taxed $10. If it isn't healthy, then it should be taxed just like tobacco and alcohol.

    Hell, if they taxed all foods that are bad for us, it would probably pay for national healthcare. And since the government is into sin taxes, the time is here to start taxing all the sin foods. Maybe then, some of these fat asses who drive up our healthcare costs will pay their fair share.
     
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    I started the RYO cigarette thing a couple of months ago, specifically to avoid these new taxes. One hurdle however, was the 1000% tax increase on LOOSE tobacco! The TAX on it starting April 1st is $24 a POUND!

    We got around it for the long term however, there's a loophole in that tax we're going to be taking advantage of. By the way, it's the big cigarette manufacturers who lobbied for this massive tax increase on RYO tobacco. So much for The Obama not kow-towing to special interests!
     
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    How much is a pack of cigarettes going for these days? They're using this tax to fund the S-chip health care program for kids. If they raise the tax to get more money but end up losing smokers (and money) in the process . . . how's this working?? Oh yeah, half-assed and backwards per government standards.
     
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    Real close to six bucks, depending on where you are.

    It'll be well over six after April 1st.
     
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    You have just summarized why sin taxes are inherently flawed.

    Sin taxes are nothing more than a ham handed social engineering tool that the government wields with the benevolent rationale of doing what is best for us.

    Hence the rise in popularity, especially among "liberals", of taxes on soda, candy, the banning of certain cooking oils and yes the taxing of tobacco and alcohol.

    The government in its wisdom decided that certain activities and substances are bad for the people and in an attempt to lessen these undesirable behaviors decides to tax them and use the revenues to fund government offices dedicated to the eradication of these behaviors.

    And it always ends the same way. The revenues gained are absorbed into the government spending addiction and when sin taxes do what they were designed to do, that is reduce smoking or whatever, the government sees a decrease in revenue.

    Rather than seeing the decrease in smoking as a positive, all the government sees is that revenues are down and the scramble begins to find a new sin to tax. Hence the new fat taxes on soda, candy and sugary foods that are becoming ever more popular. After all being fat is "bad for you" and the government must stop people from being fat.

    It is a never ending cycle of government addiction to our tax dollars that drive this social engineering via taxes and we should impose our own sin tax on the government's addiction. It's time for an intervention. The government must enter rehab and learn to live with less of our money.
     
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    I'm going to kill my husband! He smokes 1/2 pack a day which equals $1200-$1300 per year. Damn addictions!!
     
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    Get him rolling his own. Pure tobacco, none of the chemicals or additives. He'll find he smokes less, feels better, but he might get a hitch in his get-along due to a much heavier wallet.

    Anyhow my roll your own (RYO) smokes cost about $1.18 a pack. Take the Old Man to your local smoking professional, a smoke shop. There they have fine cigars, but they also have the RYO tubes, machines, and the tobacco.

    Here's another growing alternative, what I call ENDS: Electronic Nicotine Delivery Devices. I have a friend who went to this and he swears by it:

    NJOY Electronic Cigarettes - The Smoking Alternative with All the Pleasures Without All the Problems
     
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    Thanks for the tips!!
     
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    i heard on the local news this past week that the state of Maine raised their cigarette taxes PER PAK to $2.00 and it is effective this april 09, and stores that have bought cigarettes already to sell and have them on their store shelves, will be charged the tax on those as well!!!

    Then you add the Federal Cigarette tax to it and who knows what the heck a pak costs? I would say maybe 7 bucks a pak up here?
     

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